Dolfan in NYC Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel. I focus on the pain, the only thing that's real. Good morning AEWheads! We have NEW Tag Team Champions!  Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley took the straps in decisive fashion and look to reign terror on the tag team division for a long time! How long? We'll just have to see!  The needle tears a hole... The old familiar sting. Try to kill it all away, but I remember everything. But of course, the news of the week (or Saturday at least) was that Rookie Toni Storm was "a performance" and Timeless Toni Storm is going to... ahem... perform a double mastectomy on AEW Women's Champion Mariah May. (Dolfan sez: Personally, I'd have liked them to stay away from each other for at least another 6-9 months. It's not like you don't have a bunch of challengers AND another champion to help them pass the time. Let Timeless return in bits and pieces, until eventually it's a full on destruction of May to announce the return of TTS. Slow burn angles rule. Oh well... This was fine.) {{TONY. GIVE ME TICKETS TONY.}} What have I become? My sweetest friend... Everyone I know goes away, in the end. On tap this week...  Oh, yeah, and Ricochet & Swerve are gonna make each other hurt. (This seems like something they should save for a PPV... or at least when they go to Australia.)   ("60 Songs That Explain the 90's: The 2000s" just did an episode about this. Take a listen, it's excellent.) Don't hurt yourself! Enjoy the week! 4 1 1
dorfus malorfus Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I thought the thread name was a Bif Naked reference until I saw the Cash video 2
just drew Posted January 29 Posted January 29 That's the one thing i would've changed about the Timeless reveal. At minimum, that's a "go home show" angle. I know there's been some discourse as to the glut of ex-WWE guys in AEW, but damn do the Hurt Syndicate feel like a big-ass deal on Dynamite.  I kinda feel like maybe Jeff Jarrett loses tonight. If this is his last big story, they can get more mileage out of this. 3
AxB Posted January 29 Posted January 29 The Hobbs vs Bill brawl on Collision, it's pretty obvious that the planned spot was for Bill to handcuff Hobbs, threaten him with a death bump, and then Hobbs would break out of the gimmicked cuffs and fight back. But then the chain was all tangled and Bill couldn't get then straightened out without snapping the gimmicked bit himself, so it went by the board. So if it looked a bit disjointed and unplanned, that would be because they had a planned spot that they couldn't do, and had to improvise. And Big Bill would be the veteran of the two, but the WWE PC guys, most of them don't seem to have great improvisational skills. 3 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 29 Posted January 29 As great as Johnny Cash was, I still prefer the Nine Inch Nails original. I feel the pain more in Trent's words than I do coming from Cash. 4 3
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, AxB said: The Hobbs vs Bill brawl on Collision, it's pretty obvious that the planned spot was for Bill to handcuff Hobbs, threaten him with a death bump, and then Hobbs would break out of the gimmicked cuffs and fight back. But then the chain was all tangled and Bill couldn't get then straightened out without snapping the gimmicked bit himself, so it went by the board. So if it looked a bit disjointed and unplanned, that would be because they had a planned spot that they couldn't do, and had to improvise. And Big Bill would be the veteran of the two, but the WWE PC guys, most of them don't seem to have great improvisational skills. I was kind of wondering if something was supposed to happen with the backpack. Like it seemed to me like Bill kept feeding it on purpose with the idea being that "My God, it's full of bricks and Bill felt none of those brutal shots!" But nope, they just kinda walked away. Little bit awkward. (I know you're referring to the later brawl with the table spot, but this was fresh in my brain after seeing your post). Â ETA @Nice Guy EddieIt's a tale of two pains: Reznor knows he's missing out on living, whereas Cash lived it all and knows it's over. Dig em both for sure, but even Reznor said "Thats not my song anymore" (not sure if I agree, but certainly heavy praise) Edited January 29 by Zakk_Sabbath 2
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: As great as Johnny Cash was, I still prefer the Nine Inch Nails original. I feel the pain more in Trent's words than I do coming from Cash. Gave me chills the first time I saw NIN. Still a treasured memory with my older brother. 5
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I was kind of wondering if something was supposed to happen with the backpack. Like it seemed to me like Bill kept feeding it on purpose with the idea being that "My God, it's full of bricks and Bill felt none of those brutal shots!" But nope, they just kinda walked away. Little bit awkward. (I know you're referring to the later brawl with the table spot, but this was fresh in my brain after seeing your post). I felt like the backpack emphasis in the first part of the brawl was to get us all thinking "Okay, what ELSE can he have in there? He already threw a brick!" 2 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 29 Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said: I felt like the backpack emphasis in the first part of the brawl was to get us all thinking "Okay, what ELSE can he have in there? He already threw a brick!" My thoughts exactly! Still really looking forward to the match itself, despite that slight weirdness. (Now let me drop the "backpack full of bricks" talk before we wind up going down the "Northeastern HC shows of the early 2000s" rabbit hole yet again lol). One thing I'm looking forward to tonight (maybe even more accurate to say 'curious about') is us hearing from MJF. His last two promo segments were not what I'd call "warmly received" by any stretch, so my hope is he'll be highly motivated to deliver here - we shall see. 1
NikoBaltimore Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: As great as Johnny Cash was, I still prefer the Nine Inch Nails original. I feel the pain more in Trent's words than I do coming from Cash.  1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: ETA @Nice Guy EddieIt's a tale of two pains: Reznor knows he's missing out on living, whereas Cash lived it all and knows it's over. Dig em both for sure, but even Reznor said "Thats not my song anymore" (not sure if I agree, but certainly heavy praise) Until hearing Reznor's version live I always felt Cash's was the one that hurt to hear more. But there was just something about how Trent performed the song that night that made me go "motherfucker". All I know is no matter which one I try to avoid the song as it bums me out for a while. This also doesn't account for the Eddie tribute video which is one of the first things I think of hearing it and...yeah. Okay, before dwelling on this too much the show sounds good on paper but I can't say I'm terribly excited for Ospreay/Cage or Jarrett/Claudio. I'm not a fan of Cage and while Jarrett trying to get the title sounds great I don't like the idea of him beating Claudio. Mercedes/Yuka should be fun though. 2
Technico Support Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said: Gave me chills the first time I saw NIN. Still a treasured memory with my older brother. NIN was an incredible live show back in the day.  Hearing all these songs originally built on a computer by one guy getting reinterpreted with a badass live band was incredible.  I want to say I saw them in 94 with Marilyn Manson (when nobody knew who Manson was) and then on the next tour with Manson and the Jim Rose Circus. Edited January 29 by Technico Support 6
NoFistsJustFlips Posted January 29 Posted January 29 2 hours ago, just drew said: That's the one thing i would've changed about the Timeless reveal. At minimum, that's a "go home show" angle. Eh, I kind of understand it. Promotion works. The more time you have to promote something, the more people know about it. Promoting normal Toni vs Mariah probably doesn't carry as much weight as promoting Timeless Toni getting her revenge on Mariah. So they wanted a few weeks of getting the word out for the more appealing story. It makes sense and may get a few more people interested in checking out the show. 1
Curt McGirt Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Said it before and I'll say it again: KEEP HANDCUFFS OUT OF WRESTLING. 5 1
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Eh, I kind of understand it. Promotion works. The more time you have to promote something, the more people know about it. Promoting normal Toni vs Mariah probably doesn't carry as much weight as promoting Timeless Toni getting her revenge on Mariah. So they wanted a few weeks of getting the word out for the more appealing story. It makes sense and may get a few more people interested in checking out the show. Plus it will move more tickets having more than three days to try to sell them too. I’d have preferred it on the go home show, but from a business perspective last week made more sense financially.Â
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: NIN was an incredible live show back in the day.  Hearing all these songs originally built on a computer by one guy getting reinterpreted with a badass live band was incredible.  I want to say I saw them in 94 with Marilyn Manson (when nobody knew who Manson was) and then on the next tour with Manson and the Jim Rose Circus. I saw NIN twice. In 2000, with A Perfect Circle opening and Manson came out during "Starfuckers, Inc." and they went into "The Beautiful People". The second time seeing NIN was 2005 with Queens of the Stone Age opening. 3
stuntmanc Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I actually just got pit tickets this morning to see NIN in Philly on August 27, can't wait. 4
NikoBaltimore Posted January 29 Posted January 29 16 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I saw NIN twice. In 2000, with A Perfect Circle opening and Manson came out during "Starfuckers, Inc." and they went into "The Beautiful People". The second time seeing NIN was 2005 with Queens of the Stone Age opening. We went to Made in America Festival in Philly years ago and it had a variety of acts performing. I think Queens was there though since we were rushing to see somebody else I only heard some of "No one knows". I wish I saw more but what can you do. If I were to guess it was maybe around 2016 we saw NIN as they were headlining one of the nights. The show was so good my wife barley knew their stuff yet was really impressed. To circle back to the title they ended their set with "Hurt" which was really haunting and he made you feel every word he was saying. There was good stuff at the festival but they were easily my favorite so I would love to maybe see them again. 2
Curt McGirt Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I saw (some of) Queens with Turbonegro in Memphis. We left during Queens for BBQ and boozing 3 1
Dolfan in NYC Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 I got to see Nine Inch Nails in 2014 (god 11 years ago...) at Jones Beach. Very nice show.  Oh, yeah, their opening act... Soundgarden. https://www.brooklynvegan.com/nine-inch-nails-18/ 4
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 30 Posted January 30 6 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Said it before and I'll say it again: KEEP HANDCUFFS OUT OF WRESTLING. unless you were the Big Boss Man?
Cobra Commander Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) Things I Remember From This Week's Edition of AEW Dynamite: Brian Cage looking like a jacked Steve Blackman/Billy Jack Haynes hybrid neat spots from Ospreay, neat delayed vertical suplex spot from Cage Page and MJF and everybody just hanging out backstage and MJF gets an extra promo in Death Riders need 3 dudes to beat Jeff Jarrett, Bryce just oblivious to it all MJF then shows up to beat up on Jarrett too Interesting order of segments with the preview of a Moxley interview happening at the top of an hour. If someone beats Moxley, they have to wear Moxley as the title Hobbs is trapped on the large William part of Jericho island Jericho is in a movie that's streaming on a service i've never heard of They went to break, eventually, once, after a few moments Ricochet/AR Fox getting a more lively crowd than Claudio/Jarrett, maybe more lively than Yuta/Switchblade Ricochet taking a guy hostage to avoid Swerve Death Rider bullshit after White/Yuta, but the faces actually make a save so that they can make a match with the Death Riders on Collision, Death Riders almost pulling a 1:1 segments:beatdowns ratio The Gunns are making a comeback, as you can tell from this vignette of them looking serious while going around some town that's probably Jacksonvile Mone is in the main event this week, which is the first women's main event on Dynamite since... nice American Gladiators gear on Mone Edited January 30 by Cobra Commander 2
Curt McGirt Posted January 30 Posted January 30 DYNAMITE - I liked Cage/Ospreay a fair deal. Cage kept it pumping the whole way, super athletic, giving no time for his stuff to register as "well he's just doing a lot of stuff" and seeming to suffocate Ospreay with offense. Ospreay is smart enough now to use that to pare his offense down to nothing and just be never-say-die. Now, this is if you like "workrate" wrestling; Meltzer probably went in totally pants-free for it. It isn't my cup of tea, but this was very good. The beatdown afterwards was good until they kind of just petered out on it, stood around for a minute, and then started again? It was like somebody was supposed to run down and didn't. - Retire the Styles Clash already though because it's always fucking scary. - Jarrett got to show Claudio what he learned in Memphis... good punches, of course. We all knew he didn't have a chance but a double beatdown was kind of necessary to get him outta there. The close for the Death Riders should be a 5-on-5 Elimination match like NJPW vs. the original UWF. Hopefully Tony's wrestling nerd Spidey-sense comes into play -- or he reads what I just wrote. MJF thankfully says little. - Jericho's stupid movie (seriously, watch the trailer, it's awful) has wrestlers attacked with flame which as we know was an AEW first! Another on the list of "crazy shit that never happened in wrestling before AEW did em, because they're too dangerous" is Ricochet taking a hostage by threatening to slit their throat with a blade. - Daddy Magic smoked allllll the crack in TN before hitting (heh) that 30 second promo - Someone has got to photoshop that shot of Toni onto a cover of Famous Monsters of Filmland. 3
dorfus malorfus Posted January 30 Posted January 30 I loved the timing of MJF's music hitting and Max sauntering out to pick the bones after Jarrett's loss, but the execution was a bit of a missed opportunity. Jeff should have been staggering around oblivious of his surroundings after taking two finishers from Claudio, Max should have beat a helpless old man within an inch of his life instead of teasing a promo then just hitting one punch, and Jeff absolutely should have juiced like crazy for this. After all the long winded promos I wasn't expecting them to cut corners when it came time for the actual violence and heat. I have a feeling the actual match(es?) will be great though. It hasn't been his best promo work but I don't think MJF would be feuding with Jarrett unless it was a program he specifically wanted to do. Hopefully tonight they were just saving the blood for Revolution (even if it's hard to imagine them stretching this feud out until March, although presumably we'll get MJF vs Dustin along the way). 4
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