RIPPA Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Figured I need to clarify I am talking the OG here not the fake AAA version. But yup - breaking out the big dancing guns now. With a bonus for WOTD sighting with Damien 666 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I haven't seen any post WCW Parka other than this: Here's what I wrote about it in Sept on PWO. I've seen a decent amount more lucha since then so I might feel differently about some things now. Watching the L.A. Park vs Wagner Jr. match now. I like that the first fall wasn't necessarily overkill. Yes it was a lot, but once they got back to the ring, they went right to driving the point home. I think a lot of wrestlers from around the world would have drawn that out more after the power bomb and it was absolutely not necessary. The blood stuff was all twisted, both Wagner wiping it on his own chest and then Park wiping it on his hands and licking it EXACTLY while the ring girl walks out with the segunda caida sign. That was all fairly grindhouse. I think Park had some very varied and interesting ways of just brutally dismantling the hell out of Wagner. I'm not sure I've ever seen the basic idea of "just slam the guy's head into something repeatedly" done so well. The transition was awesome because you're kind of thinking at that point: "what can Wagner do to get back into the match quickly and believably?" And just spearing Park into the chairs was so simple and effective. It was also one of the more believable "Bursts of adrenaline" I've seen when Wagner takes over. Some of that is how he moves around the ring, but I think some of it is just the natural thrill of the possibilities of revenge, if that makes any sense. It's visceral here. It's also a matter of pacing. He's not doing a ton of stuff. He's slamming a chair into his enemy with well-paced shots, the best being the momentum gathering running one. I love the fans with the masks trying to rouse their hero but then it's followed by one of them stooging while Park is about to get nailed with a chair. Weirdly surreal image. All this crowd stuff is a hell of a spectacle and I really like the symmetry with the beating around the arena and the ramp and the mask tearing. Someone like the Mando > Eddie guy could write up some crap about how surreal it is to see Park's mask ripped since it's representative of what's inside of him, so to see it opened up ... something, something. For someone who hasn't seen it before, it just came off as an offputting image. There's this hugely triumphant feel when Wagner's back in the ring and doing the clotheslines. It's like a celebration. Yeah, I really liked those first two falls and especially how they played off each other.And I am perfectly cool with the reset to start the last fall. It fit into the symmetry well and both guys are just reeling from the get go. When Wagner holds up his hands for Park to stop, it's one of those moments where I don't know if I'm seeing something that usually happens in lucha or not. Independently, it's cool, since both wrestlers are channeling the crowd and even after all the hatred, it's believable that there'd be that moment of pause. Granted Wagner uses it to start fighting back from the slaps but I don't think it was just misdirection. It's almost like these two wrestlers have transcended the hatred and reached a higher plateau of existence through trying to kill each other. What makes all of this work is the space between moves. Every little thing is so damn weighty. And then it kind of goes on and loses me a little. I think this is a personal problem I've been having with lucha though. I don't really see the shape of the third fall after the dive. it becomes very much "I hit a big move. You hit a big move." and on paper it's not too different from WWE Main Event ending run style, and in a lot of ways is superior since the pacing is slower and the kickouts aren't so ridiculous but I think because I'm used to something so different, it throws me off a little. It's almost like, because they're moving so slowly, I can see the strings holding the trick up? MAYBE it's not just me though since, from what I can tell, the crowd loses a lot of energy mid way through the third fall. It's still hot, but it was explosive before and instead of escalating, it deflates a little. I do think it really does come back after the leg whip though, mainly because of the "What else can we do?" mannerisms both guys are showing, and it's only increased from there with the ref bump/low blow and the near falls as they head towards the finish. The finish has the real feel of one of those 70s/early 80s interpromotional US Champion vs Champion matches. There's the visual fall but the ultimate win and no one leaves satisfied. Anyway, I thought it lost its way a little in the third fall, but almost because it had raised the emotional stakes SO high at the start of the fall. It's sort of a shitty thing to hold against a match and sort of hard to explain. In total I thought it was great and I'm pretty sure I like brawls way more than title matches, but for my own weird reasons. I didn't meant to write so much about this at all. I'm glad I watched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Dancing Shmancing. L.A. PARK is my youngest son's favorite wrestler for one reason: All the BLOOD! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgqo3k_el-mesias-vs-la-park-part-1-2_latino http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgrf3z_el-mesias-vs-la-park-part-1-2_latino And then there was the MOST BLOOD: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kbsu_el-hijo-del-santo-vs-la-parka-monte_sport http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kby7_el-hijo-del-santo-vs-la-parka-monte_sport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Two comments for the Chairman and SIXTEEN for Emma. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Well, I thoroughly enjoyed Parka vs. Wagner. I don't think I've ever seen Wagner get beaten so bad during a match. My fantasy football team is called LA MarK, but no-one ever gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really want Emma vs Parka in round one of March Madness now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really want Emma and Parka to make babies now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Of these two things, I think we can only get Jae to manage one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Since Matt D got the TxT match and DEAN got the other two bloodbaths, here's this one to complete the four-pack. The other parts are in there after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Two comments for the Chairman and SIXTEEN for Emma. Yep. In fairness, I don't comment much these days, but I watched every match in this thread. I did not open the Emma thread. Should I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Emma's cute and all, but she does not hold a candle in the dancing department to L.A. PARK!!!! Definitely felt he was underutilized in the United States. Hell, I think WWE could bring him in now and get him over in no time. A dancing skeleton, how does one fuck that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 When I was ten years old Mankind and La Parka were my two favorite wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 La Parka was pretty damn popular with the folks I went to college with in the mid-90s. (To think that was when I discovered this board) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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