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According to vince russo new shoot with the Kayfabe commentaries WCW 2000 timeline, Meltzer said after watching the This is Your Life segement with the Rock that he would never watch wrestling again. Now it is Russo so it is probably 70% bullshit but does anyone remember him saying stuff like that.

 

Dave addressed this on twitter and said he never said any such thing. In the future when you come to a situation where Russo claims someone said something and wonder if it's true or not: Always assume NO.:)

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Billy Gunn fought WWF Tag Team Champion Kane to a no contest at around the 5-minute mark when the Road Dogg and X-Pac came out to help Kane as he was tied upside down in the ring ropes, with Gunn and Road Dogg fighting into the crowd as X-Pac & Kane were jumped from behind by Mark Henry & D-Lo Brown, with Ivory. 

 

The Big Show fought Paul Bearer to a no contest at around the 3-minute mark when Show was jumped by all the members of the Ministry after calling them out.

 

Debra defeated WWF Women's Champion Sable (w/ Nicole Bass) to win the title via reverse decision in a bra and panties match. 

 

The Big Bossman pinned Test in a nightstick match at 7:03 after hitting Test in the face with the nightstick as Test attempted a sunset flip. 

 

Bradshaw fought Farooq to a no contest in a lumberjack match at around the 2-minute mark when Viscera and Mideon entered the ring and tried to stop the bout, with Farooq and Bradshaw shoving them out of the way until the Big Bossman came out and cooled them down.

 

Pat Patterson & Gerald Brisco defeated Rodney & Pete Gas at 2:09 when Rodney submitted to Brisco's figure-4 as Gas submitted to Patterson's Boston Crab. Patterson & Brisco used "Real American" as their theme music. Due to pre-match stipulations, Rodney & Gas were forced to leave the WWF.

 

Jeff Jarrett (w/ WWF Women's Champion Debra) pinned Val Venis at 8:03 by hitting him with Debra's title belt after she slapped Venis in the face.

 

Ken Shamrock fought Chyna (w/ Triple H) to a no contest when Triple H and Shamrock began fighting before the bout began, with Shamrock dropping Triple H to the mat and hitting a belly to belly suplex on Chyna before storming off, upset that he was driven to the point where he would strike a woman.

 

WWF World Champion Steve Austin, The Rock, & Vince McMahon defeated the Undertaker, Triple H (w/ Chyna), & Shane McMahon at 4:38 when Austin pinned Shane with the Stunner. Shawn Michaels was the guest referee for the bout.

 

This show sounds awful.

 

LOL ...I just looked at those results and thought the same thing myself.  Good Grief, why was Big Show booked against Paul Bearer?  And Farooq and Bradshaw were wrestling each other?  And I have no memory of Austin, Rock and Vince teaming together as faces.

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Billy Gunn fought WWF Tag Team Champion Kane to a no contest at around the 5-minute mark when the Road Dogg and X-Pac came out to help Kane as he was tied upside down in the ring ropes, with Gunn and Road Dogg fighting into the crowd as X-Pac & Kane were jumped from behind by Mark Henry & D-Lo Brown, with Ivory. 

 

The Big Show fought Paul Bearer to a no contest at around the 3-minute mark when Show was jumped by all the members of the Ministry after calling them out.

 

Debra defeated WWF Women's Champion Sable (w/ Nicole Bass) to win the title via reverse decision in a bra and panties match. 

 

The Big Bossman pinned Test in a nightstick match at 7:03 after hitting Test in the face with the nightstick as Test attempted a sunset flip. 

 

Bradshaw fought Farooq to a no contest in a lumberjack match at around the 2-minute mark when Viscera and Mideon entered the ring and tried to stop the bout, with Farooq and Bradshaw shoving them out of the way until the Big Bossman came out and cooled them down.

 

Pat Patterson & Gerald Brisco defeated Rodney & Pete Gas at 2:09 when Rodney submitted to Brisco's figure-4 as Gas submitted to Patterson's Boston Crab. Patterson & Brisco used "Real American" as their theme music. Due to pre-match stipulations, Rodney & Gas were forced to leave the WWF.

 

Jeff Jarrett (w/ WWF Women's Champion Debra) pinned Val Venis at 8:03 by hitting him with Debra's title belt after she slapped Venis in the face.

 

Ken Shamrock fought Chyna (w/ Triple H) to a no contest when Triple H and Shamrock began fighting before the bout began, with Shamrock dropping Triple H to the mat and hitting a belly to belly suplex on Chyna before storming off, upset that he was driven to the point where he would strike a woman.

 

WWF World Champion Steve Austin, The Rock, & Vince McMahon defeated the Undertaker, Triple H (w/ Chyna), & Shane McMahon at 4:38 when Austin pinned Shane with the Stunner. Shawn Michaels was the guest referee for the bout.

 

This show sounds awful.

 

LOL ...I just looked at those results and thought the same thing myself.  Good Grief, why was Big Show booked against Paul Bearer?  And Farooq and Bradshaw were wrestling each other?  And I have no memory of Austin, Rock and Vince teaming together as faces.

 

 

Commissioner Shawn Michaels was screwing the Corporate Ministry.  Bradshaw vs Farooq was a lumberjack match where the Union were the lumberjacks.

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LOL ...I just looked at those results and thought the same thing myself.  Good Grief, why was Big Show booked against Paul Bearer?  And Farooq and Bradshaw were wrestling each other?  And I have no memory of Austin, Rock and Vince teaming together as faces.

 

 

The reason you don't remember was because nobody remembers anything from 1999. If anyone tells you they vividly remember everything in '99 from post-WrestleMania until HHH marrying Stephanie, they weren't really watching.

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Steve Austin vs Undertaker from the RAW after KOTR is the highest RAW segment ever at 9.5. The second is Rock vs Shane in a Steel Cage at 9.0 the night after Backlash 2000 when everyone thought Austin was coming out again after being on the PPV. The this is your life segment was not crapped on by the Internet at the same as very little WWF stuff was criticized as everyone loved what WWF was doing at the time. The only thing that I remember that Scott Keith criticized about the segment was that after Vince Russo left WWF in October 1999 when the Internet was worried that him leaving was going to hurt WWF and help WCW that he mentioned Russo had obvious holes in his writing and used This is your life which everyone loved at the time as an example because they didnt write a finish for it and that's why Triple H randomly came out at the end with a sledgehammer to end that nobody seems to remember not do they show when replaying the segment

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For the low low price of $75  you can now get Meltzer's newsletter from way back in 1972-1973 when he was covering the California scene.

 

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/32933-earliest-meltzer-work-1972-73-newsletters-for-sale-now

 

Man, I hope somebody uploads those, though of course I would never download pirated content BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WRONG.

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Finally watched those Meltzer youtube videos and had a few comments/questions.

 

1) He doesn't have nearly as much stuff as I would have expected/hoped.  Although he always seemed like a collector of knowledge, info & footage moreso than collectibles but yeah I expected his place to look more like an episode of "Hoarders".

2) What is the context of these videos?  Who shot them and why?

3) All the stuff in the shed for sure and the garage (if it's not climate controlled) he's risking it losing its value and/or usefulness if he leaves it there.  I guess plastic storage boxes are better than cardboard boxes though.

4) Sounds like in theory he's open to someone converting his VHS for him.  I'd be curious though if more than 10% of it isn't readily available on disc already but that 10% could be quite the find.  Has anyone ever offered or at least pressed him on what all he has?  It seems as far as footage & magazines go, he kind of arrogantly states that he has "everything" from like decades but is probably disconnected enough from the collectors' subculture that I'd be curious what he truly does own vs. what was truly available.

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To answer #2, aren't they part of the recent NY Times article about him?

Yes, I assumed they were part of the background for the NY Times article. Probably something they asked him to shoot to give a feeling of what the center of operations looked like before they sent a photographer out there.
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