stuntmanc Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I ended 2023 watching Jun Kasai v Nick Gage at GCW. Ended 2024 eating ice cream, watching Ghostbusters and building a lego Stitch with my daughter. What a difference a year makes lol. Happy New Year everyone. 7
Robert S Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Re. the Bronko Lubich talk in the old thread: I am sure I have made that joke before, but between David Manning and Bronko Lubich, World Class had the unstoppable force and the immovable object as refs. 6
Matt D Posted January 1 Posted January 1 You guys will just have to take my word for it but (Mighty) John Quinn coming out to Manfred Mann's The Mighty Quinn (and they play the whole damn song as he just stands in the ring waiting for Pat Roach) in 1981 Hanover Germany is definitely something. I don't know what, but it's something. 5
odessasteps Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Robert S said: Re. the Bronko Lubich talk in the old thread: I am sure I have made that joke before, but between David Manning and Bronko Lubich, World Class had the unstoppable force and the immovable object as refs. Throwe in Rick Hazzard and his luscious hair.
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Was it a good or bad thing that we never got a Memphis wrestling music video of the Moondogs wrecking havoc set to “Who Let The Dogs Out” 1 1
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 hour long WWE Vault video of the Undertaker from 1992 to 1994 if anybody wants a look into Giant Gonzalez
Shartnado Posted January 1 Posted January 1 46 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: 2 hour long WWE Vault video of the Undertaker from 1992 to 1994 if anybody wants a look into Giant Gonzalez This could be a chance for someone who is definitely not me to watch SummerSlam'93 RIP Match and compare it to the pre (or post) SummerSlam'06 SmackDown No DQ match against The Great Khali and see how those two matches measure up against one another! 1
mystman Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: 2 hour long WWE Vault video of the Undertaker from 1992 to 1994 if anybody wants a look into Giant Gonzalez I don't want to look into, over, under or through Giant Gonzalez. I don't want to see him no matter the perceptive. 3
bobholly138 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 https://youtu.be/7uxLrTm0ZxE Top 3 womens matches I saw live in 2024. In the vid description I got links to the full matches. https://youtu.be/pnqHQkHkQ1M Top 3 tag matches I saw live in 2024,like above full match links in vid description. 2
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) oh man... kicking off immediately with the Berzerker trying to stab the Undertaker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ89NPrvxTs EDIT: cracked up laughing at Fuji throwing salt at Paul Bearer as Bearer was on the ringsteps and Bearer jumped to the floor to sell Very polite by the Undertaker to hit the Tombstone and tag in Macho Man to hit the elbow. Also feels like a useless skill for me to know when the WWF match was taped in Glens Falls Edited January 1 by Cobra Commander
Technico Support Posted January 1 Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: 2 hour long WWE Vault video of the Undertaker from 1992 to 1994 if anybody wants a look into Giant Gonzalez I’m in early 1990 in my WCW rewatch and the El Gigante era just started. Fuuuuuuuck. 1
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) just imagine the insanity if Bill Alfonso brought in Giant Gonzalez to counter 911 in 1995 ECW and the only way Giant Gonzalez could have a more horrifying outfit is if they had AI in 1993 to generate the outfit Gonzalez is 8 feet tall and he has to use ether.. did they consult with Cornette it's possible I'm doing an Eddy/Eddie Guerrero thing with using "Gonzalez" instead of "Gonzales" in reference to El Gigante Edited January 1 by Cobra Commander
Technico Support Posted January 1 Posted January 1 After one match with El Gigante, it's totally understandable that Flair was like "yeah, fuck Jim Herd." 2
Cobra Commander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Mr. Hughes with some superb reacting to the Undertaker sending him urns. You know, they really should have paired Mr. Hughes and IRS once DiBiase dipped out. At least Hughes and Rotunda/o would have matching outfits. 2
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2 Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: Mr. Hughes with some superb reacting to the Undertaker sending him urns. You know, they really should have paired Mr. Hughes and IRS once DiBiase dipped out. At least Hughes and Rotunda/o would have matching outfits. Hughes is only in WWF for a 4-5 months if that before he winds up as muscle for Shane Douglas in ECW for a few months. He is in the long list of guys who feud with Undertaker, and that's essentially all they did during their WWF run. Someone needs to come up with a spreadsheet and figure out which era of WWF had the most turnover in terms of talent: late 80s WWF or steroid trial era WWF. Like Ludvig Borga's WWF run is like five months, he gets hurt, and just never comes back. 1995 is rough too cause they either release a bunch of people or essentially make them part timers or a combination being made a de facto part-timer/giving notice like Bam Bam, Kama, etc. around SummerSlam and the last quarter of the year. Poor Del Rios (Spellbinder in USWA) was so terrible he got one shot on TV, set the Gorilla position on fire, and was never brought back.
Cobra Commander Posted January 2 Posted January 2 yeah imagine how shitty you have to be to be a steroid dude who can do magic tricks and the WWF is like "Naahhhh" 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2 Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: yeah imagine how shitty you have to be to be a steroid dude who can do magic tricks and the WWF is like "Naahhhh" And he only got in cause Lawler recommended him as a Memphis guy. Sidenote: There is a taping cycle in late 95 where Lawler brings in the Memphis guys as enhancement talent like Tony Williams, Reggie B. Fine working under his real name, and others. Reggie B Fine is either wrestling Jean Pierre Lafitte or Yokozuna and is about to get literally squashed taking their finish, and Lawler shouts "MOVE, REGINALD!". Unfortunately, it didn't work. Speaking of steroid guys, I've been wondering lately why Terra Ryzing never got a WWF dark match or try out. You know that would be one of the first things unearthed by the WWE vault. ALL the northeast guys like Tony Roy (who is literally from the same hometown as Levesque, IIRC also a bodybuilder, and was his opponent for a lot of his early matches), Phil Apollo, Richie Rich, Scott Taylor, Perry Saturn (forgot the name he used as enhancement talent), etc. all get work as enhancement talent and several matches in WWF including house shows. Most of them except for Taylor were trained by Killer Kowalski. There are about ten guys from that crew who regularly appear for a period of three or four years maybe longer. Yet, Levesque doesn't really did get on their radar until he gets his WCW gig. How does a guy who looks like the guy they would love to have only come in after he drops mostly all the muscle when he turned into Jean Paul Levesque later in 1994? Even if he was terrible in the ring until 1994, they let another huge muscle guy in Mark Thomas have match after match on TV and he was horrendous. I am assuming he turned that down figuring he didn't want to be seen as a job guy, and he wouldn't be able to pass those "very tough" drug tests that were implemented in 1992. By the time he is pretty much officially signed to WWF in March 1995, he is about 35-40 lbs smaller than what he started out as in WCW.
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted January 2 Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Speaking of steroid guys, I've been wondering lately why Terra Ryzing never got a WWF dark match or try out. You know that would be one of the first things unearthed by the WWE vault. ALL the northeast guys like Tony Roy (who is literally from the same hometown as Levesque, IIRC also a bodybuilder, and was his opponent for a lot of his early matches), Phil Apollo, Richie Rich, Scott Taylor, Perry Saturn (forgot the name he used as enhancement talent), etc. all get work as enhancement talent and several matches in WWF including house shows. Most of them except for Taylor were trained by Killer Kowalski. There are about ten guys from that crew who regularly appear for a period of three or four years maybe longer. Yet, Levesque doesn't really did get on their radar until he gets his WCW gig. How does a guy who looks like the guy they would love to have only come in after he drops mostly all the muscle when he turned into Jean Paul Levesque later in 1994? Even if he was terrible in the ring until 1994, they let another huge muscle guy in Mark Thomas have match after match on TV and he was horrendous. I am assuming he turned that down figuring he didn't want to be seen as a job guy, and he wouldn't be able to pass those "very tough" drug tests that were implemented in 1992. By the time he is pretty much officially signed to WWF in March 1995, he is about 35-40 lbs smaller than what he started out as in WCW. I'm guessing your assumption is right re: not wanting to be seen as a job guy. He was the same one who turned down a multi-year offer with WCW and asked for a one year "prove it" contract (if I recall correctly, his logic was "if I work hard enough then you'll want to give me a bigger deal, but if I don't fit then I can parlay it to the WWF because I'll have a year of being on TV under my belt"), so I'm guessing even back then he was savvy enough to not work enhancement for the WWF if he wanted to go there as a star. 5 1
odessasteps Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) Chad Austin mentioned on bts how the WWF brought him to tv but thought he was too small even for tv and how that actually saved him from being seen as a job guy like Duane Gill and other Indy guys of the era. Edited January 2 by odessasteps
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 2 Posted January 2 He's on the small side, but at the same time, Jerry Lynn in the early 90s was very small compared what he looked like seven or eight years later from when he first became noticed. He couldn't have been that much bigger than Chad Austin and got a few cracks at working some of the syndicated shows (granted, probably off the strength of what he did in Global). I think it probably depended on who was helping to book those guys so the criteria probably changed especially post Chuck Austin lawsuit. The guys like Reno Riggins, John Paul, Horowitz, and Scott Taylor looked to be better workers than a lot of the guys they were being squashed by. Reno Riggins had a great little 4 or 5 minute TV match with 1-2-3 Kid on Superstars and a believe a shorter match on another show and never really got a look beyond that. It's crazy to think that WWF was employing guys who were stinking out the joint in 1-3 minute squash matches that were taped weeks in advance were you could edit it into something halfway decent, but you're somehow expecting them to have a credible match when a live PPV rolls around.
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