September 2024 Wrestling Discussion

[Zakk_Sabbath]

46 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

Who’s the biggest dude with the biggest gas tank? Hansen, what Vader could do at 400 was impressive. 

It could be recency bias, but I'd throw a pre-COVID Keith Lee's name into the hat for this one.

In keeping with your AJPW theme, I'll also say Bossman - I forget what match it was I saw a while back where he was doing like a prototype version of the Claudio/Sami-in-NXT, run-around-the-post thing, but it was super friggin cool. Like, pick a similarly built modern guy - I don't think a JD Drake or a Kevin Owens could do it today as well as he did it then, even w the template already in place. Mans was sweating like Mike Tyson in whatever match that was where he had gonorrhea

[AxB]

2 hours ago, The Natural said:

I thought I'd have a crack at listing wrestlers who are cardio GOAT. I've come up with:

• Bryan Danielson.
• Bret Hart.
• Ric Flair.
• Ricky Steamboat.
• Nick Bockwinkle.
• Samoa Joe especially for a big man.
• WALTER/Gunther.
• Kurt Angle.
• Claudio Castagnoli.
• Bob Backlund.
• Kazuchika Okada.
• Kenny Omega.
• Chris Benoit.
• Will Ospreay.
• Zack Sabre Jr.
• Dolph Ziggler.
• Roderick Strong.
• Seth Rollins.
• Finn Balor.

What do you think? Probably missing someone obvious.

Have you not seen the Hero vs Punk matches from IWA-MS? 60 minute 2 out of 3 falls, followed by a 90 minute TLC.

There was a match that went 104 minutes once, but those guys can both fuck off.

But in the GCW Fight Forever 24 hour stream (it was in the Pandemic era), 2 of those hours were a 120 minute Ironman between Tony Deppen and Jordan Oliver.

[The Natural]

13 minutes ago, AxB said:

Have you not seen the Hero vs Punk matches from IWA-MS? 60 minute 2 out of 3 falls, followed by a 90 minute TLC.

There was a match that went 104 minutes once, but those guys can both fuck off.

But in the GCW Fight Forever 24 hour stream (it was in the Pandemic era), 2 of those hours were a 120 minute Ironman between Tony Deppen and Jordan Oliver.

Fuck. Forgot CM Punk and Chris Hero. Not seen the 120 minute one between Tony Deppen and Jordan Oliver.

[GodzillaPerez]

Hero did a 3 hour gauntlet match for ALS Canada

[J.H.]

Hey, Misawa, Kobashi and Kawada had crazy stamina/cardio!

And that's working King's Road, the most physically demanding style of it's time!

James

[Curt McGirt]

15 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Did you buy any of them?

Haha nah I ain't giving WWE my money. Not a figure collector anyway -- no space because of all the records, and I don't need another expensive hobby. 

[Nice Guy Eddie]

Austin Aries and Bryan Danielson went 74 minutes at ROH's Testing the Limit back in 2004. 

[Log]

3 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

In keeping with your AJPW theme, I'll also say Bossman - I forget what match it was I saw a while back where he was doing like a prototype version of the Claudio/Sami-in-NXT, run-around-the-post thing, but it was super friggin cool.

I think that was in Bossman's match with Kobashi.

Traylor in AJPW moves insanely smooth for a guy his size. It's really an impressive little run.

[cwoy2j]

6 hours ago, The Natural said:

I thought I'd have a crack at listing wrestlers who are cardio GOAT. I've come up with:

• Bryan Danielson.
• Bret Hart.
• Ric Flair.
• Ricky Steamboat.
• Nick Bockwinkle.
• Samoa Joe especially for a big man.
• WALTER/Gunther.
• Kurt Angle.
• Claudio Castagnoli.
• Bob Backlund.
• Kazuchika Okada.
• Kenny Omega.
• Chris Benoit.
• Will Ospreay.
• Zack Sabre Jr.
• Dolph Ziggler.
• Roderick Strong.
• Seth Rollins.
• Finn Balor.

What do you think? Probably missing someone obvious.

Missing HBK and Cena. Also, apparently Austin was a cardio monster. Just never got a chance to show it much later in his career because most of his matches were Attitude Era brawls but I've heard a few guys from that era say Austin's cardio was insane.

[Technico Support]

lol Ric Flair getting divorced again.  Trying to match his number of title reigns with his number of ex wives.  My dude is the poster child for the need to destigmatize therapy.  

[zendragon]

Foley said Sting was a cardio machine in one of his books, along with Austin and HBK

[Elsalvajeloco]

4 hours ago, Technico Support said:

lol Ric Flair getting divorced again.  Trying to match his number of title reigns with his number of ex wives.  My dude is the poster child for the need to destigmatize therapy.  

I don't think Ric and Wendy were ever officially married. They split in 2022 and then split again. Ric already has a new girlfriend according to Conrad so yeah.

[SirSmUgly]

7 hours ago, Technico Support said:

lol Ric Flair getting divorced again.  Trying to match his number of title reigns with his number of ex wives.  My dude is the poster child for the need to destigmatize therapy.  

Therapy only works if you go in with the mindset that you need to change your life in fundamental ways and would like help figuring out how to do that. 

Does any of that sound like Ric Flair to you?

[Brandon Bones]

9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:

Therapy only works if you go in with the mindset that you need to change your life in fundamental ways and would like help figuring out how to do that. 

Does any of that sound like Ric Flair to you?

Yes AND I’ve been doing therapy all wrong 

Edited September 25 by Brandon Bones
Oops! I mean no it doesn’t sound like Flair!

[nate]

Am therapist.

Can confirm.

[BobbyWhioux]

Appointment making, couch riding, conversation having, breakthrough making, life changing, son of a gun!  WHOOOOOO~!

[Technico Support]

14 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:

Therapy only works if you go in with the mindset that you need to change your life in fundamental ways and would like help figuring out how to do that. 

Does any of that sound like Ric Flair to you?

Oh for sure.  I mean he’s an example of why it’s necessary, not that he could do it!  Somehow drinking, womanizing, and generally refusing to grow up doesn’t solve your problems.  Who knew?

[Cobra Commander]

feeling like I have a backlog of wrestling netflix stuff to watch between the AJW series and the Vince thing

[BloodyChamp]

This will sound like a copout thing to say but some cardio guys are just born with it. They’re like a woman born attractive. Ric Flair never jogged a day in his life at his own will. In other words he probably did jog or run in highschool but only because his coach made him. So with that said, whatever the story on it was, he was a GOAT cardio man. 

[The Natural]

15 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said:

Appointment Making, Couch Riding, Conversation Having, Breakthrough Making, Life Changing, Son Of A Gun!  WHOOOOOO~!

;).

[zendragon]

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Hardtimes promo done in the style of Morgan Freeman

[ChesterCopperpot]

Summerslam 2025 - the first 2 night event - will be at Met Life Stadium - August 2nd and August 3rd

https://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/article/new-jersey-to-host-two-night-summerslam-in-2025

 

[sabremike]

On 9/24/2024 at 1:09 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Austin Aries and Bryan Danielson went 74 minutes at ROH's Testing the Limit back in 2004. 

I was at this show. A funny note is that they planned to go much longer (2 hours if I recall correctly) but made the call to end it early as it just wasn't working. Everyone in the back was shocked when they took it home "early".

[odessasteps]

 

[The Natural]

On 9/24/2024 at 6:09 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Austin Aries and Bryan Danielson went 74 minutes at ROH's Testing the Limit back in 2004. 

 

16 hours ago, sabremike said:

I was at this show. A funny note is that they planned to go much longer (2 hours if I recall correctly) but made the call to end it early as it just wasn't working. Everyone in the back was shocked when they took it home "early".

One of the biggest Bryan Danielson matches I haven't seen mainly because I can't get past Austin Aries as a bridge burning arsehole. The time may come I do because of my love for Bryan Danielson. Still angry at what Austin Aries did to Christy Hemme.