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Kevin Wilson

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Stop me if you've heard this before, but TK says that "the most important announcements in AEW history looming large now!". Not just a big announcement, or a great announcement, or a regular announcement, but the most important announcements. First of all, I don't think that's the proper (or at least best) usage of the phrase "looming large" as I assume he meant "fast approaching" or something similar but beyond that, it could be anything from a TV deal to announcing international dates to announcing the All Out card since he can be a bit full of hyperbole. Curious to see if he is just leaning into the meme or really does have something important coming to tell us, I've love for the TV Deal talk to end.

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54 minutes ago, peachchaos said:

Trying to come up with some likely matches for All Out since my crew hasn’t missed one yet. Mostly drawing a blank and without becoming the Charlie Day meme we’ve deduced a possible main event of Danielson/Okada 2. MJF/Garcia is likely if Danny stays with AEW. No idea what the future plan is for Ospreay and Swerve, maybe they have a rematch here? If Darby straps up in London maybe he has a title defense?

I know they have two weeks this year between them instead of one but I actively dislike having two events so close to each other. Partially because its expensive to buy two so close to each other but it makes it harder to do a proper build but also harder for people to decide if they want to attend the show. There are a lot of different possibilities but will the champions from All In also wrestle at All Out? Last year they staggered it with only the Trios titles defended on both shows but with two weeks this year maybe they won't do that.

All Out last year had a kinda meh PPV card but the Punk situation hurt it, it was mostly propped up by the great Takeshita/Omega match and damn good Danielson/Starks match (neither of which were title matches). I hope this year with the extra week they come up with a more interesting/meaningful card for it but I thought they'd start announcing or at least highly hinting at some matches by now.

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3 hours ago, peachchaos said:

Trying to come up with some likely matches for All Out since my crew hasn’t missed one yet. Mostly drawing a blank and without becoming the Charlie Day meme we’ve deduced a possible main event of Danielson/Okada 2. MJF/Garcia is likely if Danny stays with AEW. No idea what the future plan is for Ospreay and Swerve, maybe they have a rematch here? If Darby straps up in London maybe he has a title defense?

Darby has a world title shot in his back pocket, thanks to winning the Rampage Rumble.  So Danielson or Swerve vs Darby is a possibility. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SovietShooter said:

Darby has a world title shot in his back pocket, thanks to winning the Rampage Rumble.  So Danielson or Swerve vs Darby is a possibility. 

I think they specified Darby's title shot is for Grand Slam, but I could be mistaken?

I assume the Tony "hugest announcement evah" talk is 100% for the tv deal which has to come out soon, supposedly the current contract runs out at the end of the year and that's not the sort of thing you announce the week before.

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1 hour ago, SovietShooter said:

Darby has a world title shot in his back pocket, thanks to winning the Rampage Rumble.  So Danielson or Swerve vs Darby is a possibility. 

 

 

The Darby title match is for Grand Slam Dynamite. 

I know that it's not the AEW style, but I wouldn't mind Toni Storm retaining at All In and then losing to Mariah at All Out. 

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They could always use the Casino Gauntlet winner for the All Out main, if it's someone decent. Ricochet or Omega vs. Danielson or Swerve would work. MJF vs. Garcia in some type of hardcore match if Garcia re-signs. Stat vs. Willow in some type of hardcore match. Ospreay/Fletcher vs. Takeshita/Rush. I feel like Okada vs. Claudio could've been saved for this one, but I see the appeal of it on the first Euro Dynamite.

Also, they teased Okada/Hangman in Blood and Guts. Even though they haven't followed up on it, some interaction with those two in the gauntlet could heat that right back up for All Out.

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On 8/9/2024 at 1:20 PM, Zimbra said:

To be clear I am strongly in favor of him signing with WWE because the inevitable endpoint of his indie career is he and his wife creating some kind of insufferable burlesque/wrestling concept show and we can't allow that to happen.

Like Danhausen hosting a burlesque wouldn't be the greatest thing ever!

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1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot said:

Australian media reports are suggesting a stadium show might happen there in 2025 

https://x.com/sportingnewsau/status/1823596756195794998

"Sydney's Allianz Stadium, Melbourne's Marvel Stadium and Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium shape as potential landing spots"

 

 

To me it'll be interesting if it's All In just moving to a new city, or if they plan on expanding to multiple stadium shows in the same year.

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46 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

To me it'll be interesting if it's All In just moving to a new city, or if they plan on expanding to multiple stadium shows in the same year.

i said last year (before All In 2023) that they should use the "All In" name specifically for a huge show in a new market every year or every other year. I stand by that. Look at the number of tickets sold for All In UK 2024 vs. 2023 and it's a massive dropoff. it will still be a huge gate, but to me this year's show just feels like the next PPV rather than a huge show.

Now imagine if All In 2024 didn't exist. We were gearing up for All Out and Grand Slam, and they announce All In Australia 2025. hype would be massive. Maybe it still will be, i know Australia goes big since touring is not commonplace. But feels like some of the luster is gone.

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55 minutes ago, twiztor said:

i said last year (before All In 2023) that they should use the "All In" name specifically for a huge show in a new market every year or every other year. I stand by that. Look at the number of tickets sold for All In UK 2024 vs. 2023 and it's a massive dropoff. it will still be a huge gate, but to me this year's show just feels like the next PPV rather than a huge show.

Now imagine if All In 2024 didn't exist. We were gearing up for All Out and Grand Slam, and they announce All In Australia 2025. hype would be massive. Maybe it still will be, i know Australia goes big since touring is not commonplace. But feels like some of the luster is gone.

I don't want to say he regrets it since it will still be a big crowd and its hard to argue any event with almost 50K people isn't great, but they announced 2024 All In soooo early and it never had the buzz because it felt like it was announced too early and doesn't feel as special. I know SS/WM are announced really early but those are more known entities and since they change cities it excites a different area. It would be cool if next year All In is in a new country and they start that as a new tradition.

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They announced All In 2024 at All In 2023. Right after the main event. There was a QR Code on the big screen and everything.

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Just announced:

All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) on X

2025. First AEW Stadium Show in the USA. It's in Arlington, in the Texas Rangers' stadium.

Capacity is 40,000 for Baseball, attendance record is 43,598 for a concert by someone I've never heard of.

Does somewhat imply that there won't be an All In London next year.

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Will that be the only All In next year? Thinking the normal All In weekend might be that Austrailia stadium show that's rumored. Over / under on total All Ins happening next year is 2.5 place your bets lol

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Feel like with a big enough stage and normal wrestling stadium configurations/shenanigans that they could "sell out" at 30K to 35K. Be interesting to see as the date gets closer what they plans are to fill it, or at least make it look like not a bad idea.

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18 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:

Feel like with a big enough stage and normal wrestling stadium configurations/shenanigans that they could "sell out" at 30K to 35K. Be interesting to see as the date gets closer what they plans are to fill it, or at least make it look like not a bad idea.

Even your estimate it wouldn’t look bad. Isn’t the capacity 42,000 for baseball? So including a ring, and the stage it would be smaller than that anyhow. 

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23 hours ago, Zimbra said:

They did say All In will be back at Wembley in 2026

They didn't say Wembley. They said London.

AEW running Globe Life Field in Dallas right now seems like an awful idea. But the AEW landscape could look completely different one year from now. Last year, All In sold over 72,000 tickets. Right now, All In this year only 45,000 tickets sold. They don't seem to have the gas to run a Texas stadium right now. Their first Grand Slam event at Arthur Ashe was a sellout. Their next one will be a fraction of the first show's attendance. AEW has failed to build its product to make these shows a good idea. Their live attendance is in the toilet right now.

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7 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

Their live attendance is in the toilet right now.

My understanding of this could be entirely wrong, if so, please correct me:

I looked into this a while back when I bought my Grand Slam tix (because I actually managed to get some kick ass seats this year after suffering from altitude sickness for the first few) and they're averaging 2000-4000 live this year (with spikes of 5-9000 for stuff like PPV, and 'Big Business') - not their peak, certainly not WWE #s, but not terrible.

Based on those #s and other stuff mentioned by TK in interviews, it seems to me overall like the biggest thing stopping them from simply booking smaller buildings is that the larger ones, particularly in NBA/NHL markets, have a lot more resources in terms of being able to share the burden of local marketing, finding local rigging/shipping resources, vendors and things like that. I didnt see this mentioned anywhere, but I would also assume some of it is to do with physical limitations like loading docks, ceiling height, how much weight the floors can bear - think similarly to the Van Halen "brown M&Ms" thing.

So while I understand (and agree) that the optics of a half full building arent great, the alternative might end up being more long-run costly in terms of the overhead - so what else can you really do but stick with it, and hope it turns into an "If you build it, they will come" situation?

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14 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

I didnt see this mentioned anywhere, but I would also assume some of it is to do with physical limitations like loading docks, ceiling height, how much weight the floors can bear - think similarly to the Van Halen "brown M&Ms" thing.

Building codes take care of pretty much all of that. While larger venues do have better accommodations for television production (such as platform options for hard camera placement so you don't need scissor lifts), things like load bearing on the floor are mandated by building regulations and if those aren't up to snuff, the building gets shut down before you even get in.

Now building STAFF, that's a bit of a different thing. Staffing in larger venues is very much more accustomed to large loadouts compared to smaller venues (she says remembering the time she rented a 2,000 seat convention center and had someone from building maintenance freak out at her because of the scissor lift that got brought into the venue, in spite of clear specifications stated that a scissor lift would be used).

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