Cliff Hanger Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Just Dave said: No matter how @Niners Fan in CT tries to spin it, that heat Mercedes was getting wasn’t the right kind. Didn’t feel like it to me, anyway. Especially when Britt mentioned her the first time. It’s entirely possible that I’m misreading the situation, but to me it felt like “we hate this idiot” heat. I can’t wait to hear about how this is “coded language…” Why do you fucking tag him every time? Why is THAT the thing that's important to you? Jesus fuck dude, we get it. We know you don't like her and find his fandom offensive, and we know that he will rise to your hate-tag. And as someone who missed her entire career until the show where she broke her foot, this is RSPW shit. You are doing RSPW shit. 6 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 13 minutes ago, Cliff Hanger said: Why do you fucking tag him every time? Why is THAT the thing that's important to you? Jesus fuck dude, we get it. We know you don't like her and find his fandom offensive, and we know that he will rise to your hate-tag. And as someone who missed her entire career until the show where she broke her foot, this is RSPW shit. You are doing RSPW shit. What's RSPW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sex Machine Gun Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Just Dave said: What's RSPW? Oh... no. Combine this question with me wondering the other day "When did CRZ end?" and I am not just old now but now I'm IWC old. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 17 minutes ago, Craig H said: And last night ruled. I like that Hangman isn’t purely an attack dog for the EVPs. I was getting Steve Austin vibes from him. Completely agree. I hate when somebody turns heel or face and we're supposed to just accept that their personality has completely changed overnight. Like, Jack Perry has been doing a fine job of being a traditional wrestling heel, but it still bugs me that there's been no attempt to explain how anything he's done since turning on Hook is consistent with his previous characterization. But Hangman hasn't really changed at all; he just really hates Swerve (and with good reason). The main reason he's a heel is that the crowd has decided they like Swerve a lot (which bugs me too, but that's a rant for a different time). MJF's face turn was another example of doing it right. They framed it as a bad person trying to be a little bit better now that he's found his first real friendship, rather than expecting you to ignore that he'd previously been scum. Good stuff. His turning heel again makes sense too, even if it's disappointing on a couple of levels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Just now, Sex Machine Gun said: Oh... no. Combine this question with me wondering the other day "When did CRZ end?" and I am not just old now but now I'm IWC old. I mean, I'm 41, but I didn't get much into chatrooms until my late 20's, and this is really the only wrestling board i frequent. Everything else is SABRmetrics and guitar forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 19 minutes ago, Cliff Hanger said: And as someone who missed her entire career until the show where she broke her foot, this is RSPW shit. You are doing RSPW shit. Wait, I don't remember r.s.p-w being especially petty. Or are you describing it now? Does it still exist in some form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I'm going to pivot away from where this is heading and say that AEW is slowly and consistently getting away from an underbooked woman's division. Would I still enjoy more matches, absolutely, but they built a great storyline with Toni/May/Mina while including the Saraya/Harley, Willow/Stat still has more legs to it and I'd argue that Banks/Baker last night felt like one of the biggest segments AEW has had for womens wrestling in a long time. You get Hayter back and build on what is going on, i really could see it growing by leaps and bounds even more post All In. May/Toni(if that's where they're heading) and Baker/Mone are two legit, high profiles matches with stories woven in that aren't just hamfisted slapped together. I really think AEW is finding their stride again. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sex Machine Gun Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) https://rspw.org/ There's what's left of it. Looks like it's been about 15 years since any major activity. I got into the internet scene in like, 2000 (I was 16) so even that is now old enough to drink. Edited July 4 by Sex Machine Gun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, tbarrie said: Completely agree. I hate when somebody turns heel or face and we're supposed to just accept that their personality has completely changed overnight. Like, Jack Perry has been doing a fine job of being a traditional wrestling heel, but it still bugs me that there's been no attempt to explain how anything he's done since turning on Hook is consistent with his previous characterization. But Hangman hasn't really changed at all; he just really hates Swerve (and with good reason). The main reason he's a heel is that the crowd has decided they like Swerve a lot (which bugs me too, but that's a rant for a different time). MJF's face turn was another example of doing it right. They framed it as a bad person trying to be a little bit better now that he's found his first real friendship, rather than expecting you to ignore that he'd previously been scum. Good stuff. His turning heel again makes sense too, even if it's disappointing on a couple of levels. The only issue I have with Hangman right now is.....his mustache is absolutely less glorious. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, tbarrie said: Wait, I don't remember r.s.p-w being especially petty. Or are you describing it now? Does it still exist in some form? My memory of it from 97-00 when I was really active was that there were a LOT of knife fights and this kind of poking, but I may just be getting senile in my 40s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sex Machine Gun Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I'm going to pivot away from where this is heading and say that AEW is slowly and consistently getting away from an underbooked woman's division. Would I still enjoy more matches, absolutely, but they built a great storyline with Toni/May/Mina while including the Saraya/Harley, Willow/Stat still has more legs to it and I'd argue that Banks/Baker last night felt like one of the biggest segments AEW has had for womens wrestling in a long time. You get Hayter back and build on what is going on, i really could see it growing by leaps and bounds even more post All In. May/Toni(if that's where they're heading) and Baker/Mone are two legit, high profiles matches with stories woven in that aren't just hamfisted slapped together. I really think AEW is finding their stride again. The key is making feuds that stand alone for personal reasons, not involving a belt. This has been slowly germinating for a little while now and will only improve once we get back a bunch of injuries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I mentioned this in the monthly thread but if ALL IN is looking like Swerve vs. Hangman 4 Toni Storm vs. Mariah May Mercedes Mone' vs. Dr. Britt Baker Will Ospreay vs. MJF That's a really strong start for the biggest show of the year... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 As far as the rest of the show; this is the type shit AEW needs to keep doing. I was ALL THE WAY in on Hanger/JJ. Idk if that's my match of the year, but it's certainly top 5. One thing I've learned about my own tastes in wrestling over the past few years is that I'm a sucker for pacing. I thought that match was structured perfectly. Jarrett's hope spots and comebacks were spaced out brilliantly. Whoever laid that match out needs a raise. I never REALLY thought JJ would win, but there was those handful of moments where I was like "well damn, maybe." Also, I really dug the bit of business with MJF at the end of the show. My favorite heels are the ones who's actions are understandable, if not justifiable. MJF, in his mind, has gotten screwed over by everyone he's tried to be friends with. Wardlow, Cole, et al. So he reaches out to this kid, Garcia, who he sees something in. He offers to be in his corner. He genuinely wants Garcia to beat Ospreay. Then Garcia refuses his advice. Doesn't use the ring. Immediately loses. To a guy who's been through as much friendship related trauma as MJF, that feels like rejection. And he just snaps. Or maybe he always planned on turning on Garcia. Either way, great shit. PAC and Danielson delivered, as always, though that could've been the final. Matchups like these are why I think the Own should be at least 16 competitors. You could've gotten another match from Pac before him and Danielson meeting in the Semis. Maybe I was too harsh in my assessment of Baker/Mone earlier. Tbh, I don't have much use for either. I'm genuinely happy for Britt Baker the human being. Sounds like she's been through a lot from an injury standpoint and I'm glad she gets to ply her chosen trade again. I just find her completely uninteresting as a television character, and I think she's vastly overrated as a performer. My feelings on Mone are well documented, so I'll spare you all a second portion today. All in all, a good show. The storytelling aspect of AEW has really stepped up lately. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 How many times can they do Swerve/Hangman before they have to put Hangman over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I think it is absolutely ok for MJF to do the job to Ospreay. He’ll be fine and can take the loss. And I’m totally fine with an even darker Hangman being the one to dethrone Swerve. Hangman and Swerve are perfect for each other. They can face each other as many times as they want. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 DYNAMITE. Only one day later! This is less elaboration than usual, so look at it as Dynamite Short Cuts. Spoiler - I was busy venting on Facebook about the holiday but PAC/Danielson was fine as always, at least after they finished the mirror sequence. - Jack Perry busting out the Raven pose and KOR deciding to use his Thai kickboxing to run in and brawl were funny. But the Acclaimed on Team AEW... yuck. Someone is really gonna have to drop a pint for the cause. And it'll probably be Chicken. - Dr. Looser is smelling farts... many farts! The crack AEW audio team is in full effect for this segment unfortunately. - POUNCE DOWN THE RAMP~! We move from a brawl to some big big moves starting with the Booker T Axe Kick until the chain and the rollups. I would love to see the FITE feed of this because it probably makes the match beat the open. You could run Willow/Kris every card and I wouldn't complain. - That was a Raw-level amount of talking in the middle. I also skipped the Joe's Army vs. Gates match, think we had that last week? The Team Jericho ass-whoop too. My time is kinda tight today, sorry boys. - Hangman is a fucking sicko. Elbows to the base of the neck, kicks him right in the ribs. Great punches all around. Jeff busts out Owen's enzuigiri and the Sharpshooter, eats two Dead Eyes which had to be bad for his age. This was really good. REALLY good. - JERICHO THROWS FIRE!!! This is a really heated night... pardon the pun. - Okay... phew... I'm gonna watch a Will Ospreay match. Again. On the plus side Danny sells and sells and Will comes off like a real dominant dick. On the minus side Jesus does the Styles Clash need to be retired. That thing is just scary anymore. Let's do some more good and bad: The Good is that Ospreay can effortlessly change up and pull out a totally different match than a previous one, character- and offense-wise. The Bad is that if he's just done something as ridiculous as the Swerve match you can't possibly imagine him losing. And he doesn't. Danny Garcia is only 25? Fuck I'm old. The MJF heel turn is perfect. I don't look forward to the promos, but if he just keeps being an evil bastard it'll rule. Pushing the fans, slapping phones out of hands, throwing garbage, busting open people. Awesome. This was a fantastic episode. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 That was the best Adam Page performance I’ve ever seen. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I mentioned this in the monthly thread but if ALL IN is looking like Swerve vs. Hangman 4 Toni Storm vs. Mariah May Mercedes Mone' vs. Dr. Britt Baker Will Ospreay vs. MJF That's a really strong start for the biggest show of the year... Obviously it's a match with less star power, but right now I would almost rather see MJF vs. Garcia than Ospreay. They could keep Garcia off tv for a month to sell the injury and still have enough time for more build when he returns. Although that would leave MJF with nothing really to do in the meantime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, StuntmanCrowley said: I'm going to pivot away from where this is heading and say that AEW is slowly and consistently getting away from an underbooked woman's division. Would I still enjoy more matches, absolutely, but they built a great storyline with Toni/May/Mina while including the Saraya/Harley, Willow/Stat still has more legs to it and I'd argue that Banks/Baker last night felt like one of the biggest segments AEW has had for womens wrestling in a long time. You get Hayter back and build on what is going on, i really could see it growing by leaps and bounds even more post All In. May/Toni(if that's where they're heading) and Baker/Mone are two legit, high profiles matches with stories woven in that aren't just hamfisted slapped together. I really think AEW is finding their stride again. We've also got Thunder/Deonna and what's looking like Riho/Serena. They have certainly come a long way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: DYNAMITE. Only one day later! This is less elaboration than usual, so look at it as Dynamite Short Cuts. Hide contents - I was busy venting on Facebook about the holiday but PAC/Danielson was fine as always, at least after they finished the mirror sequence. - Jack Perry busting out the Raven pose and KOR deciding to use his Thai kickboxing to run in and brawl were funny. But the Acclaimed on Team AEW... yuck. Someone is really gonna have to drop a pint for the cause. And it'll probably be Chicken. - Dr. Looser is smelling farts... many farts! The crack AEW audio team is in full effect for this segment unfortunately. - POUNCE DOWN THE RAMP~! We move from a brawl to some big big moves starting with the Booker T Axe Kick until the chain and the rollups. I would love to see the FITE feed of this because it probably makes the match beat the open. You could run Willow/Kris every card and I wouldn't complain. - That was a Raw-level amount of talking in the middle. I also skipped the Joe's Army vs. Gates match, think we had that last week? The Team Jericho ass-whoop too. My time is kinda tight today, sorry boys. - Hangman is a fucking sicko. Elbows to the base of the neck, kicks him right in the ribs. Great punches all around. Jeff busts out Owen's enzuigiri and the Sharpshooter, eats two Dead Eyes which had to be bad for his age. This was really good. REALLY good. - JERICHO THROWS FIRE!!! This is a really heated night... pardon the pun. - Okay... phew... I'm gonna watch a Will Ospreay match. Again. On the plus side Danny sells and sells and Will comes off like a real dominant dick. On the minus side Jesus does the Styles Clash need to be retired. That thing is just scary anymore. Let's do some more good and bad: The Good is that Ospreay can effortlessly change up and pull out a totally different match than a previous one, character- and offense-wise. The Bad is that if he's just done something as ridiculous as the Swerve match you can't possibly imagine him losing. And he doesn't. Danny Garcia is only 25? Fuck I'm old. The MJF heel turn is perfect. I don't look forward to the promos, but if he just keeps being an evil bastard it'll rule. Pushing the fans, slapping phones out of hands, throwing garbage, busting open people. Awesome. This was a fantastic episode. Acclaimed aren’t officially on Team AEW yet. They could have just as easily been building up to their tag title match against the Bucks since the Acclaimed beat them in a title eliminator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, Craig H said: Acclaimed aren’t officially on Team AEW yet. They could have just as easily been building up to their tag title match against the Bucks since the Acclaimed beat them in a title eliminator. Also, Swerve Strickland is likely to be on Team AEW (which would then give Hangman the impetus to be the Elite's fifth man despite not being buddy-buddy with them). Would The Acclaimed be willing to work with Sneaky Swerve? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 7 minutes ago, Craig H said: Acclaimed aren’t officially on Team AEW yet. They could have just as easily been building up to their tag title match against the Bucks since the Acclaimed beat them in a title eliminator. I hope so because I just cannot buy them as righteous babyfaces looking to get down and bloody to kill the heels. 4 minutes ago, tbarrie said: Also, Swerve Strickland is likely to be on Team AEW (which would then give Hangman the impetus to be the Elite's fifth man despite not being buddy-buddy with them). Would The Acclaimed be willing to work with Sneaky Swerve? What if both teams claim Hangman as their 5th member and we need to wait and see who he sides with, Sting style? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 23 minutes ago, Craig H said: Acclaimed aren’t officially on Team AEW yet. They could have just as easily been building up to their tag title match against the Bucks since the Acclaimed beat them in a title eliminator. Right call is Blood and Guts ending with Caster turning on Bowens and joining the NWO. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I'm reading the Nitro book and all of these references are frankly scary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieNippz Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I'm house-sitting for somebody and they have cable so I was actually able to watch Dynamite and I picked a great episode to watch. Bryan/Pac was a great start and it didn't slow down after that. I didn't even mind Chris Jericho that much 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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