WWE and Pro-Wrestling NOAH to make major announcement this Sunday.

[Technico Support]

38 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Zona 23 uses real glass. That is Jack Perry's domain, brother.

I'm just not familiar enough with lucha to know what the lucha equivalent of Noah, as a low rent, long past its glory promotion, is.  Zona was the first thing that came to mind

[Elsalvajeloco]

4 hours ago, Technico Support said:

I'm just not familiar enough with lucha to know what the lucha equivalent of Noah, as a low rent, long past its glory promotion, is.  Zona was the first thing that came to mind

Funny you should say that cause I was gonna make a funny quip about AAA but apparently WWE apparently is looking for partners in both Mexico and Puerto Rico.

Would AAA pull out of their relationship with AEW if they (AEW) are also working with and prioritizing CMLL? In Puerto Rico, it should be not an issue since Carlos still owns WWC and Carlito is back with WWE. Savio still runs IWA Puerto Rico so they also good there.

[Ziggy]

On 6/14/2024 at 12:31 AM, Cobra Commander said:

why buy something when you can do everything except buy it... in the spirit of how the WWE never actually owned OVW but provided talent and worked with them

I remember watching a shoot interview clip of Scott Hall asking Vince to allow him to work in Japan for a few tours to make money he wouldn’t be able to make just of his WWF contract alone. Someone the level of Hall was no way Vince would take him off the road in 96 as long as he was still on his payroll.

Didnt Bradshaw work All Japan in ‘97/‘98 ? That was also the time period that he says WWF was ready to give up on him and let him go as well as Faarooq for that matter which is crazy to think about because I’d imagine WCW would have picked both of them up even if I’m not sure if Bischoff would’ve done anything more meaningful with them than what they eventually gotten as APA. I think JBL would’ve done well in All Japan up till the NOAH formation as the next Hansen. 
 

My point originally was that WWE could have benefited by letting guys over the years like David Otunga for example tour NOAH or All Japan in the early 2010s. Guys that have been on tv that can benefit from being off tv, and still get more valuable experience working veterans in the other companies.

even to this day you have guys sitting in catering on tv days, I think this would be great especially for guys/girls that have only worked WWE developmental system in this 2.0 post black and gold era to work these companies. Even someone like Jade, she can lose every night in Marigold and the main part of the audience wouldn’t know. 
 

WCW had their C team NWO members like the fake Sting and Wallstreet in New Japan and Scott Norton IWGP champion at the peak off WCW still Vince never wanted to take even the lowest card guys on the regular roster off the road while they were doing the biggest business at that point.

I think more than anything working with these companies is mainly to make them look like they are different than Vince’s regime. None of the promotions they are working with right now is a threat no matter who they let come over which is fine but I’m sure all on them have at least 80% of talent that could work circles around WWE talent and I’m not familiar with any of them except what people are saying about NOAH right now.

[Cobra Commander]

WCW had the world's largest roster, and I don't think they ever went to holding multiple house shows per night with distinct crews..

they could barely pull off one house show a night

[AxB]

The thing about "Vince never sent his talent to gain experience in Japan" is, you have to bear in mind that in Vince's mind, WWF wrestling is the best wrestling in the world. They can gain more experience and knowledge sitting in catering and watching The Rock's match, than they can going out to AJPW and wrestling Misawa and Kobashi.

[Curt McGirt]

Yeah, Bradshaw was John Hawk in AJPW. Mrs. Baba Cowboy Fetish Hire, for sure. 

I'm gonna say the Marufuji match may be better than in older days because the last I looked he was working slower and stiffer than just the skinny dude with shiny pants that did Shuranuis. And god knows, AJ can still go... right?

[Elsalvajeloco]

Bradshaw had also worked in Japan before (for a period, as Death Mask doing some sort hybrid Texas hangman/Undertaker ripoff), and All Japan had some sort unofficial relationship with WWF for a little while. 

Randomly, I was just wondering how close was WWF to ever bringing in Jungle Jim Steele aka The Lacrosse and then Wolf Hawkfield in AJPW.

Seriously, he worked a Jakked taping in 2001 in between AJPW tours and working in Puerto Rico. Man, he just worked in Japan forever. Probably for the best.

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

6 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Bradshaw had also worked in Japan before (for a period, as Death Mask doing some sort hybrid Texas hangman/Undertaker ripoff), and All Japan had some sort unofficial relationship with WWF for a little while. 

Randomly, I was just wondering how close was WWF to ever bringing in Jungle Jim Steele aka The Lacrosse and then Wolf Hawkfield in AJPW.

Seriously, he worked a Jakked taping in 2001 in between AJPW tours and working in Puerto Rico. Man, he just worked in Japan forever. Probably for the best.

I remember when practically the entire internet got tricked into thinking Bart Gunn and Jim Steele were really good because of the G1 Tag League Finals, when it was just that Tenzan and Kojima were that good back then.

[Elsalvajeloco]

2 hours ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

I remember when practically the entire internet got tricked into thinking Bart Gunn and Jim Steele were really good because of the G1 Tag League Finals, when it was just that Tenzan and Kojima were that good back then.

I mean the old saying is, "it takes four to tango."

Or at least I think that's what the saying is.

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

34 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

I mean the old saying is, "it takes four to tango."

Or at least I think that's what the saying is.

Well tango rhymes with mango and mango can be in salsa and double partner dancing is common in salsa dancing and...

... I've lost it. I'd start over but I don't know where I was.

[Log]

Mmmmmm…mango salsa. 

[Curt McGirt]

That sounds good and I don't think I've had it before. In my completely unhinged 20s (yeah, like anything changed) I would get mango juice, toss in vodka and call 'em Mango Drivers. Wrestling~!

I also totally forgot about the other handle of "Wolf Hawkfield" haha. That sounds like Great Value Stan Hansen... oh shit, it WAS Great Value Stan Hansen!

Edited June 23, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[AxB]

Wolf Hawkfield was a character in Virtua Fighter, who did a lot of early 90s Steiner moves. German Suplex, Dragon Suplex, Frankensteiner, Steiner Screwdriver. He also did a Giant Swing and a Spinning Armbar (not an MMA flying Jujigatame or La Mistica; An American standing Armbar where he spins in a circle and makes his opponent run around him). 

When Jim Steele was given the gimmick, he added the Giant Swing to his Punch-Clothesline-Bodyslam muscleman offence.

3 hours ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

Well tango rhymes with mango and mango can be in salsa and double partner dancing is common in salsa dancing and...

... I've lost it. I'd start over but I don't know where I was.

Best Meal Deal ever!

[Cobra Commander]

Jim Steele feels like a guy that would get tricked into using the Thesz Press in the WWF, only to be interrogated for using "Austin's move"

[AxB]

He used the Thesz Press as his finisher in WCW!

He called it the Steele Trap.

[Eivion]

15 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

I'm gonna say the Marufuji match may be better than in older days because the last I looked he was working slower and stiffer than just the skinny dude with shiny pants that did Shuranuis. And god knows, AJ can still go... right?

Both can still go from what i have heard and seen. Its more that neither are really at their prime physically or standing wise. It feels like a decade late.

[Curt McGirt]

Oh shit, I didn't know Hawkfield was Steele or about the Virtua Fighter thing. I thought it was Layfield under yet another name. 

4 hours ago, AxB said:

An American standing Armbar where he spins in a circle and makes his opponent run around him). 

That sounds... really stupid. Like something that would have been super over as a finish for a babyface in all the '60s and '70s wrestling I'm reading about in the Sheik book.

[The Natural]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9FdwNELm0

[The Natural]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocbGQfjmRc&t=1s