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2 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Man, you figure Grand Slam would've been the time to pilot a Tennis gimmick

How was there not someone with a tennis gimmick and "Grand Slam" finisher in early/mid-90's WWF?

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12 minutes ago, Mister TV said:

How was there not someone with a tennis gimmick and "Grand Slam" finisher in early/mid-90's WWF?

I was just thinking about how there should have been an effete tennis guy heel.  Sweater over his shoulders, wrestles in the little white shorts, valet named Muffy or Mitzi or something.  

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6 minutes ago, Zimbra said:

I was just thinking about how there should have been an effete tennis guy heel.  Sweater over his shoulders, wrestles in the little white shorts, valet named Muffy or Mitzi or something.  

I was thinking more of a John McEnroe type, his style of screaming at a ref would have worked and drawn some heat in wrestling. Also, thinking they missed out by not giving the Million Dollar Man a stable with his tennis instructor, first mate from his yacht, personal chef and so on.

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11 minutes ago, Mister TV said:

Also, thinking they missed out by not giving the Million Dollar Man a stable with his tennis instructor, first mate from his yacht, personal chef and so on.

Rotunda was already in the I.R.S. gimmick, unfortunately. 

(Seriously, I love this idea, though.) 

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DiBiase playing that handball game in the big empty room with the glass wall that rich people do in all the '80s movies would have been cool. Didn't they do it with tennis rackets too? (But not with IRS; Rotunda should have been his mortal enemy just like the actual one was to his real-life parallel (along with the DEA and the FBI I guess).)

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9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

DiBiase playing that handball game in the big empty room with the glass wall that rich people do in all the '80s movies would have been cool. Didn't they do it with tennis rackets too? (But not with IRS; Rotunda should have been his mortal enemy just like the actual one was to his real-life parallel (along with the DEA and the FBI I guess).)

You know, that's funny. It has never occurred to me before this moment that IRS and The Million Dollar Man should not have been allies. Totally should have been antagonists.

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16 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

DiBiase playing that handball game in the big empty room with the glass wall that rich people do in all the '80s movies would have been cool. Didn't they do it with tennis rackets too? (But not with IRS; Rotunda should have been his mortal enemy just like the actual one was to his real-life parallel (along with the DEA and the FBI I guess).)

That would be racquetball or squash! If Vince was into something like that he would have totally given someone a gimmick based off it, sadly he got into bodybuilding. 

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11 minutes ago, Log said:

You know, that's funny. It has never occurred to me before this moment that IRS and The Million Dollar Man should not have been allies. Totally should have been antagonists.

I'm trying not to think too hard about a guy imploring people to pay their fair share of taxes, as opposed to cheating on your taxes, being a heel gimmick.  I guess everybody irrationally hates "the tax man" but as a guy who only owed one time because I didn't withhold enough, I'm ambivalent.  Wrestling works better if you just kind of go with it, I guess.

It's also funny to consider, in this age of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires," where people making 40k per year complain about tax increases for the rich, that an ostentatious millionaire who flaunts his money and buys and sells poor people for sport would be a babyface gimmick now.

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1 hour ago, Zimbra said:

I was just thinking about how there should have been an effete tennis guy heel.  Sweater over his shoulders, wrestles in the little white shorts, valet named Muffy or Mitzi or something.  

So Jim Cornette. but a Wrestler not a manager?

Now famously Vince didn't know who Cornette was until 1993, but other people in the WWF would have.

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6 minutes ago, AxB said:

Now famously Vince didn't know who Cornette was until 1993, but other people in the WWF would have.

Yeah, I think that might be inaccurate cause the Midnight Express and Jim talked to WWF before that and were on the verge of jumping years before.

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49 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

I'm trying not to think too hard about a guy imploring people to pay their fair share of taxes, as opposed to cheating on your taxes, being a heel gimmick.  I guess everybody irrationally hates "the tax man" but as a guy who only owed one time because I didn't withhold enough, I'm ambivalent.  Wrestling works better if you just kind of go with it, I guess.

It's also funny to consider, in this age of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires," where people making 40k per year complain about tax increases for the rich, that an ostentatious millionaire who flaunts his money and buys and sells poor people for sport would be a babyface gimmick now.

He was a heel auditor for the government, which means that he only wanted the everyday working person to pay their fair share, but he's perfectly fine with not bothering to audit obvious tax cheats like the Million Dollar Man. I bet DiBiase paid his whole Million Dollar Corporation under the table or through a tax shelter in the Caymans or something. 

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10 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Yeah, I think that might be inaccurate cause the Midnight Express and Jim talked to WWF before that and were on the verge of jumping years before.

When Stan Lane was being replaced in the Heavenly Bodies by Jimmy Del Ray, they decided to claim that Del Ray was Dr Tom Prichard's cousin, and that therefore this version of the bodies would be better than the Prichard/Lane version. But they know that the Tennessee fans were familiar with the Prichard family, so they brought in Tom (and Bruce) Prichard's dad to TV, so he could say "Yup, that's my Sister's boy alright". So Jim, being friends with Bruce, calls him up and tells him ahead of time "We're bringing your dad in to TV, should I send you a tape of it?". And Bruce says yes.

So what they do is, they film the promo up to the point where the TV version will cut off, and then as a rib they film a bit more, that will only go on the video they send up North. And on that version, after Senior says "That's my real nephew", Cornette asks him "Are there any other members of the Prichard family in the Wrestling business?" And Dad responds "My son Tom here, he's a great wrestler. My other son, he's got an office job up in New York, the miserable little pissant bastard".

Now Bruce doesn't realise, and puts the tape on for the first time in the office, with Vince and the lads watching. As soon as the Office Job line drops, Bruce goes as red in the face as he was in the Brother Love days, whilst Vince almost falls out of his chair laughing. And then when he eventually stops, he asks if the Tag Team and the guy with the Tennis Racquet are available, because he wants to bring them to the WWF for a run. Because that was the first time he'd seen them (and he'd seen a promo, not a match).

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3 hours ago, Technico Support said:

I'm trying not to think too hard about a guy imploring people to pay their fair share of taxes, as opposed to cheating on your taxes, being a heel gimmick.  I guess everybody irrationally hates "the tax man" but as a guy who only owed one time because I didn't withhold enough, I'm ambivalent.  Wrestling works better if you just kind of go with it, I guess.

It's also funny to consider, in this age of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires," where people making 40k per year complain about tax increases for the rich, that an ostentatious millionaire who flaunts his money and buys and sells poor people for sport would be a babyface gimmick now.

I mean, I think the point would be that YOU have to pay your taxes (with YOU meaning working class Americans) while HE (rich asshole     Dibiassie) doesn't have to. Which sorta checks historically.

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3 hours ago, Ace said:

Tennis Guy could have been a great Shane Douglas gimmick.

 

Mix of Christian Cage's current gimmick...tennis instructor who somehow only teaches married or widowed women and spends excessive time with them giving out "free lessons".

Re: Jim Cornette

So yeah I listened to Jim's story of when they (Eaton, Lane, and James E.) almost came in. TLDR version is Ernie Ladd was the liasion. He set up a meeting with Vince and the aforementioned parties. They chose to meet at a local hotel instead of Stamford on their off day and flew from Charlotte to New York. Vince met with them and discussed none of what Jim claimed he discussed with Ernie Ladd which was essentially money. All Vince did was talk about how they didn't get color in New York and action figures and everything but how much they would be making. Then, Vince took off in his car after they had lunch.

However, yeah, from what Jim could glean Vince was using information that Ernie passed on to him and never really watched any of their stuff. I doubt though he didn't remember who Cornette was. Hell, I doubt anyone would not remember meeting Cornette. He could have been coked to the gills but not remember? I don't really buy that.

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5 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Now I'm imagining DiBiase funded through Coke money and man that changes the gimmick

You and I both know that Iron Mike DiBiase life insurance payout didn't give Ted "limos every day" money. 

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22 hours ago, odessasteps said:

TK as Max Fischer makes plenty of sense. 

Well shit, I actually not only have seen Rushmore a couple of times but I even played that character in a 5-minute “Swede” of Rushmore as part of a Be Kind Rewind contest.

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5 hours ago, Zimbra said:

I was just thinking about how there should have been an effete tennis guy heel.  Sweater over his shoulders, wrestles in the little white shorts, valet named Muffy or Mitzi or something.  

Johnny Polo was something like this

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The gimmick didnt even give Ted enough money to keep him from committing fraud and fleecing congregations

Wait no that was the son right? At least the first part?

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I always wanted to do a JC knockoff character that carries a cricket bat, I don’t know if there ever were any British heels in the territory era that did that, 

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