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Apropos of nothing but there was a DEAN~!!! match where someone tried an armdrag and it was just totally blocked. The guy kept trying it and the opponent just held on to the arm. Awesome, simple spot that I cant recall anyone ever doing.

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The blocked Armdrag is a pretty recent thing (or possibly an old thing that's been brought back recently). Krule does it quite a lot.

It's strange that it hasn't been done more, back in the day. It's such an obvious "I'm a big strong monster" spot.

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Meltzer made a point, many times, about Flair and other athletes at his level.  And really, it applies to damn near any walk of life.  Being driven to that level, to be the absolute best in your field, goes hand in hand with at least some level of mental issues.  Because good enough can never be good enough, you are always pushing, etc.  Healthy people understand limitations and boundaries.  Overachievers relentlessly drive themselves, to their own detriment and others around them.

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If you want to keep on feeling not great about Ric Flair, the Grantland archives are still up - including this article:

https://grantland.com/features/the-wrestler-real-life/

It solidifies that he became the character a long time ago.

Also pretty gross that he lived so fast and loose with his money - as the character demanded - that financial "advisors" were able to fleece him and his wife/wives out of a whole lot of it. I found this article right around when I started studying for some securities licenses years ago, and the actions taken by one of his advisors as described in the article are just shocking in their blatant abuse of client trust. Churn, baby, churn. 

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13 hours ago, Infinit said:

Saw this and my mind was blown. Did Demolition get their finisher because Randy Colley did it as a Moondog??? Crazy.

That Robinson backbreaker/kneedrop combo later on in the video is pretty swank, too.

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Tito's Flying Forearm was a thing of beauty. He hit it fast and clean that it was credible as a finisher and would be today!

James

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2 hours ago, J.H. said:

Tito's Flying Forearm was a thing of beauty. He hit it fast and clean that it was credible as a finisher and would be today!

James

Thinking same thing.

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5 hours ago, J.H. said:

Tito's Flying Forearm was a thing of beauty. He hit it fast and clean that it was credible as a finisher and would be today!

James

They all look devastating to me watching them because they all are being sold like death and you know no one is kicking out lol.

I wish Murdoch and Adonis got to be a team atleast a year longer so we could've gotten some matches with them and the Bulldogs on TV

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Overbooked wrestling matches suck which is why when it's done well, it stands out. What are the best? I've come up with:

Raven/Stevie Richards vs. The Pitbulls. ECW, 16th September 1995.

Steve Austin vs. Dude Love. WWF Over the Edge 1998.

Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes. WWE WrestleMania XL.

I'm probably missing some obvious ones.

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12 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Overbooked wrestling matches suck which is why when it's done well, it stands out. What are the best? I've come up with:

Raven/Stevie Richards vs. The Pitbulls. ECW, 16th September 1995.

Steve Austin vs. Dude Love. WWF Over the Edge 1998.

Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes. WWE WrestleMania XL.

I'm probably missing some obvious ones.

Would the Savage/Warrior match with all the Liz/Sherri stuff be considered overbooked? There was a lot going on there with the finish and the post-match stuff, but it’s very well-liked. 

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4 minutes ago, Log said:

Would the Savage/Warrior match with all the Liz/Sherri stuff be considered overbooked? There was a lot going on there with the finish and the post-match stuff, but it’s very well-liked. 

Good shout, mate. The 5 too rope elbow drops, Savage kicking out of the big splash and the aftermath you detail.

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25 minutes ago, Log said:

Would the Savage/Warrior match with all the Liz/Sherri stuff be considered overbooked? There was a lot going on there with the finish and the post-match stuff, but it’s very well-liked. 

 

20 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Good shout, mate. The 5 too rope elbow drops, Savage kicking out of the big splash and the aftermath you detail.

That's one of if not the best carry job ever by Randy Savage. Probably #1 carrying a bigoted broomstick. Surreal seeing Warrior kick out of five elbow drops and Savage the big splash. Both firsts.

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18 hours ago, J.H. said:

Tito's Flying Forearm was a thing of beauty. He hit it fast and clean that it was credible as a finisher and would be today!

James

Presumably, in 2024, it would no longer be The Flying Burrito. 

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44 minutes ago, Kuetsar said:

Wasn't that Manny Fernandez?

 

I was thinking the same thing BUT I think either Ventura or Hernan might have called it that in their role as heel commentator

Wasn't Manny's more like a running flying headbutt?

 

Also in the overbooked match department, does the ECW TV Title match with Scorp/Jericho/Pitbull/Douglas count?

James

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If can believe the google machine, Heenan/Jesse called it both The Flying Burrito and the Flying Jalapeño. 
 

I think Manny”s wasn’t the flying forearm technically, at least not the same as what Tito and later Terry Taylor did. 

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10 hours ago, The Natural said:

Overbooked wrestling matches suck which is why when it's done well, it stands out. What are the best? I've come up with:

Raven/Stevie Richards vs. The Pitbulls. ECW, 16th September 1995.

Steve Austin vs. Dude Love. WWF Over the Edge 1998.

Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes. WWE WrestleMania XL.

I'm probably missing some obvious ones.

Austin vs Angle from Summerslam 2001?

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10 hours ago, The Natural said:

Overbooked wrestling matches suck which is why when it's done well, it stands out. What are the best? I've come up with:

Raven/Stevie Richards vs. The Pitbulls. ECW, 16th September 1995.

Steve Austin vs. Dude Love. WWF Over the Edge 1998.

Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes. WWE WrestleMania XL.

I'm probably missing some obvious ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5Uef_qs50

plus any match where Savage starts knocking out refs

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