December 2023 Wrestling Talk

[Shartnado]

@Elsalvajeloco I have always liked Paul Roma a lot, and remember being so stoked when my sister brought me a WCW-magazine in '93 that told me that Roma was now part of the Horsemen! I have seen his work in WCW and I find no problem with it!

[odessasteps]

Although, in a weird way, I could see someone like Phil thinking doing a job to the Road Warriors is something to have on your resume, esp if it’s 2003 and not 1983. 

[Cobra Commander]

I could see someone from Chicago actually thinking that it would be cool to take the Doomsday Device in 2003, but his partner was a random dude so I suspect that Punk started, got a move or two in, and then tagged out and Doug lost it.

[Infinit]

12 hours ago, BloodyChamp said:

I lost the ability to watch obsessively in late 1992 until 1994. I’ve since caught up and some of the better 1993 stuff you mentioned, while good, just wasn’t original. Sting vs Vader was original at the time but the skits were not, the Bulldog stuff was not, and Flair vs Sting for the 100th time was not. That was also possibly their worst match vs each other.

Arn vs Barry was a great match but 1 thing in it annoyed the heck out of me lol! Arn was working a bigger babyface bit than Brad Armstrong and Doug Gilbert combined Xs 1989 Flyin Brain. Him jumping up and down happy and smiling was so silly lol! 

Bulldog wrestling in WCW was fun but he lost interest fast and started no showing until they fired him on purpose IIRC. 

Cactus and Vader had some classics in 1993. 

[Shartnado]

10 minutes ago, Infinit said:

Cactus and Vader had some classics in 1993. 

So did Rude and Dustin!

And when was Dustin-Vader? '92 or '93, I guess '92?

Edited December 24, 2023 by Shartnado
Dustin-Vader,

[Cobra Commander]

12 minutes ago, Shartnado said:

So did Rude and Dustin!

And when was Dustin-Vader? '92 or '93, I guess '92?

I think there was a really good Dustin/Vader matchup in 94 with the Face Eraser, but also yeah, 1993ish too

[Curt McGirt]

Watching Iron Claw does kind of feel like an obligation, doesn't it? As wrestling fans this is kind of a big thing whether you want to deal with it or not. I've got people that aren't wrestling fans asking if someone wants to go see it with them on Facebook. 

[Technico Support]

2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

On looking into the CM Punk Philadelphia dark match from 2003, I found this result

Guessing Doug took the fall.

I was at that show!  Sorry, I can’t remember the finish, though.  I do recall this was basketball shorts Punk.  Also, Chavo injured his arm in a dark match, which led to the Eddy/Tajiri team.  

[BloodyChamp]

Cactus Jack and Vader was great AND original for sure. I was leaving out the absolutely perfect stuff just to make my point lol! SMW in WCW was great along with many other things that didn’t last long enough, like Cactus Jack and Vader. While they did last a while, that was not long enough. Remember they were actually considering doing a long feud and making Jack the champion for that 1 minute. 

[odessasteps]

1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

Watching Iron Claw does kind of feel like an obligation, doesn't it? As wrestling fans this is kind of a big thing whether you want to deal with it or not. I've got people that aren't wrestling fans asking if someone wants to go see it with them on Facebook. 

Like in 80s, when comic book fans went to any superhero movies as a show of solidarity to hope more got made.

[Cobra Commander]

Local man was legendary wrestling announcer

Bill Mercer making media appearances this month with the Texas Rangers, the Ice Bowl, and the Iron Claw.

[odessasteps]

1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

Local man was legendary wrestling announcer

Bill Mercer making media appearances this month with the Texas Rangers, the Ice Bowl, and the Iron Claw.

And presumably the JFK stuff.

[Mister TV]

2 hours ago, odessasteps said:

And presumably the JFK stuff.

He’s a big part of a recent doc on the JFK Assassination, it’s all of the surviving witnesses being interviewed, really good! It’s on Hulu and Disney+

[Cobra Commander]

When it comes to “Texas Death Match rules that aren’t used anymore”, I guess “losing falls will cost you money” is a good answer to “why not lose falls to gain an advantage”

 

[Curt McGirt]

5 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Local man was legendary wrestling announcer

Bill Mercer making media appearances this month with the Texas Rangers, the Ice Bowl, and the Iron Claw.

Boy, that station desperately needs a new transcriber. I'd even offer my services. 

Very happy that Bill is still alive and kicking all these years later. He was ancient in the World Class doc and that was like what, ten years ago? That's a dude that should have an autobio written before he passes. 

[Cobra Commander]

9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Boy, that station desperately needs a new transcriber. I'd even offer my services. 

Very happy that Bill is still alive and kicking all these years later. He was ancient in the World Class doc and that was like what, ten years ago? That's a dude that should have an autobio written before he passes. 

someone in the "wrestling biographies" book genre might be able to write a Bill Mercer book that could crossover to a few other groups of fans who aren't Wrestling fans

at the risk of giving Brian Solomon or Scott Teal another topic to right a book about

[Zakk_Sabbath]

1) Merry Christmas to my DVDVR fam!

2) Paul Roma is a giant asshole and it is ON SIGHT if I see him

[Cobra Commander]

the Paul Roma talk reminds me of when I saw a photo of Paul Roma and I thought it was Ken Shamrock

[MoeCristyV.1.6]

Roma invented the Powerplex, he is unhateable. 

[AxB]

Paul Roma trained The Miracle Generation and The Haven, two of the best young tag teams in the indies just now.

[Octopus]

I’m more of a Jack’s guy, but Roma will do. 

[Infinit]

Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates!

Wishing everyone else a very safe, happy and healthy holiday season

[zendragon]

8 hours ago, AxB said:

Paul Roma trained The Miracle Generation and The Haven, two of the best young tag teams in the indies just now.

is this like utility player in baseball becoming a hall of fame manager?

[AxB]

That seems to be a theme across quite a few sports. The best managers/ coaches tend to have been less than great as players, the best players never seem to work out as top managers.

I did put a Miracle Gen vs Haven match in the 2023 match thread, just so anyone who wants can see who I'm talking about.

[Octopus]

Working a favorite matches list for fun. Should I do 50 or 100?