thee Reverend Axl Future Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just got back from the latest iteration of Extreme Rising at the old ECW Arena (first show there in over two years). More good points than bad, but the vets are still getting pushed over new talents. Highlights include the Sabu/Facade match, the lucha match featuring Damien & Bestia 666 vs. Super Crazy & Pesadilla, smoking permitted in the (unfinished) building and the return of Cripple H. reporting from Hostile City, RAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just got a bunch of dvd's from Goodhelmet and I'll be goddamned if Barry Windham isn't one of the top 5 in-ring guys I've ever seen in my life. Amazing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hating on hipsters is so 2010, hating on neckbeards is where it's at. So what you're saying is, you were hating on hipsters before it was cool, but now that it's gone all mainstream, you've moved on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just heard Mike on Breaking Bad say "After all, that's what I do." Mark Henry just got a little more awesome to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooker Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Something that's been on my mind for awhile ... Everyone gives Paul Heyman shit for being a liar/conman/whatever. Why do guys like Lawler and Jerry Jarrett get a pass though? I've never seen any guy take either of them to task considering they robbed alot of guys blind, conned and lied to alot of guys just as badly, and probably over a longer period of time, as Heyman did. It's probably a combination of: 1) Paul Heyman will work any angle because he's one of the true fucking pros (although, I'd say that about Lawler as well). 2) Vince and Trips pretty clearly hate Heyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingrsco Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just got a bunch of dvd's from Goodhelmet and I'll be goddamned if Barry Windham isn't one of the top 5 in-ring guys I've ever seen in my life. Amazing. Which set is this? I'm a lifelong Windham mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 time to update the word filter please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoarr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Where does the term "finisher" come from? To me, it's a very video game-y word that makes me think more of something like Mortal Kombat. Looking around some 90's magazines and there's a lot of signature/specialty maneuvers, no finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Where does the term "finisher" come from? To me, it's a very video game-y word that makes me think more of something like Mortal Kombat. Looking around some 90's magazines and there's a lot of signature/specialty maneuvers, no finishers. I always called it finishing move. Then finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Something that's been on my mind for awhile ... Everyone gives Paul Heyman shit for being a liar/conman/whatever. Why do guys like Lawler and Jerry Jarrett get a pass though? I've never seen any guy take either of them to task considering they robbed alot of guys blind, conned and lied to alot of guys just as badly, and probably over a longer period of time, as Heyman did. It's probably a combination of: 1) Paul Heyman will work any angle because he's one of the true fucking pros (although, I'd say that about Lawler as well). 2) Vince and Trips pretty clearly hate Heyman. Vince clearly does not hate Heyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Stephanie did when he was on the writing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 because Heyman is a natural heel and can absorb that sort of thing. There's about as much money in calling Lawler a cheap pedo as their was in calling Hogan bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buy Me a Burrito Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Something that's been on my mind for awhile ... Everyone gives Paul Heyman shit for being a liar/conman/whatever. Why do guys like Lawler and Jerry Jarrett get a pass though? I've never seen any guy take either of them to task considering they robbed alot of guys blind, conned and lied to alot of guys just as badly, and probably over a longer period of time, as Heyman did. It's probably a combination of: 1) Paul Heyman will work any angle because he's one of the true fucking pros (although, I'd say that about Lawler as well). 2) Vince and Trips pretty clearly hate Heyman. Vince clearly does not hate Heyman. There was a segment to set up the Trips/Brock match where Heyman gave this long speech about being a promoter and how inherently dishonest that made you and you could see Vince looking at the guy with all sorts of pride in his eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo Woodbine Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That's what I thought of too, Vince looked like he wanted to kiss him. It was when they showed the video of Heyman, Maddox and the Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Heyman said that Stephanie spent most of her time playing referee for Vince and himself. I think Vince probably likes Heyman, but does not particularly like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Something that's been on my mind for awhile ... Everyone gives Paul Heyman shit for being a liar/conman/whatever. Why do guys like Lawler and Jerry Jarrett get a pass though? I've never seen any guy take either of them to task considering they robbed alot of guys blind, conned and lied to alot of guys just as badly, and probably over a longer period of time, as Heyman did. It's probably a combination of:1) Paul Heyman will work any angle because he's one of the true fucking pros (although, I'd say that about Lawler as well). 2) Vince and Trips pretty clearly hate Heyman. Vince clearly does not hate Heyman.There was a segment to set up the Trips/Brock match where Heyman gave this long speech about being a promoter and how inherently dishonest that made you and you could see Vince looking at the guy with all sorts of pride in his eyes.That was a great promo Paul looked Vince dead in the eyes and he said something like " I've lied every single day of my life" and then at the end Brock F'ing Lesnar came out of nowhere and F5ed 67 year old Vince. Such great television. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooker Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Something that's been on my mind for awhile ... Everyone gives Paul Heyman shit for being a liar/conman/whatever. Why do guys like Lawler and Jerry Jarrett get a pass though? I've never seen any guy take either of them to task considering they robbed alot of guys blind, conned and lied to alot of guys just as badly, and probably over a longer period of time, as Heyman did. It's probably a combination of: 1) Paul Heyman will work any angle because he's one of the true fucking pros (although, I'd say that about Lawler as well). 2) Vince and Trips pretty clearly hate Heyman. Vince clearly does not hate Heyman. There have been times (Vince on Off The Record, the December to Dismember PPV, etc.) where the subtext is that Vince doesn't really have much respect for Heyman. I think Vince is capable of putting his personal feelings aside in order to do business, which is a real testament to his character, but everything I've seen would seem to imply that he doesn't hold Heyman in particularly high esteem, perhaps because Heyman has this reputation among fans as being a creative genius while Vince, who is far more successful, has a reputation of being completely disconnected with the American zeitgeist. As for that comment that Heyman made to Vince in a promo about lying about anything, first, that was Vince on screen reacting to Heyman's remarks. Second, I read that reaction far more as a sarcastic grin more than anything like pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just got a bunch of dvd's from Goodhelmet and I'll be goddamned if Barry Windham isn't one of the top 5 in-ring guys I've ever seen in my life. Amazing. I too need to know what set this is. Barry from 85 to 89 was easily my favorite wrestler on the planet. The dude was born to do it. Before the injuries and before he let himself go physically, Barry was damn near untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I hate Heyman because of ECW. For fuck's sake, it wasn't successful and those morons trying to say other wise are the same arseholes that would chant at every got damn thing instead of being genuinely excited or intrigued by what is presented to them. Sorry, but watching people get dropped on their goddamn heads isn't cool. Watching people shove a light bulb or some stupid shit other than a dick up/down the other person's ass/throat isn't awesome. Yeah, flaming tables and barbwire? No fucking shit that people who don't watch wrestling refers the most retarded bullshit as a reason as to why they don't watch. AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHY ARE THE DOLPHINS LOSING TO THE FUCKING JETS?! I HATE YOU FOOTBALL AND I HATE YOU MIAMI DOLPHINS THE WHOLE DAMN TEAM NEEDS TO MARCHED TO A TUNA CANNERY FOR FUCK'S SAKE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cwoy2j Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just got a bunch of dvd's from Goodhelmet and I'll be goddamned if Barry Windham isn't one of the top 5 in-ring guys I've ever seen in my life. Amazing. I too need to know what set this is. Barry from 85 to 89 was easily my favorite wrestler on the planet. The dude was born to do it. Before the injuries and before he let himself go physically, Barry was damn near untouchable. It's the 11 disc set he offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I hate Heyman because of ECW. For fuck's sake, it wasn't successful and those morons trying to say other wise are the same arseholes that would chant at every got damn thing instead of being genuinely excited or intrigued by what is presented to them. Sorry, but watching people get dropped on their goddamn heads isn't cool. Watching people shove a light bulb or some stupid shit other than a dick up/down the other person's ass/throat isn't awesome. Yeah, flaming tables and barbwire? No fucking shit that people who don't watch wrestling refers the most retarded bullshit as a reason as to why they don't watch. AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHY ARE THE DOLPHINS LOSING TO THE FUCKING JETS?! I HATE YOU FOOTBALL AND I HATE YOU MIAMI DOLPHINS THE WHOLE DAMN TEAM NEEDS TO MARCHED TO A TUNA CANNERY FOR FUCK'S SAKE. You're pretty angry aren't ya? Seems like you'd fit right in with an ECW crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Except for the having actually watched ECW part, apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I hate Heyman because of ECW. For fuck's sake, it wasn't successful and those morons trying to say other wise are the same arseholes that would chant at every got damn thing instead of being genuinely excited or intrigued by what is presented to them. Sorry, but watching people get dropped on their goddamn heads isn't cool. Watching people shove a light bulb or some stupid shit other than a dick up/down the other person's ass/throat isn't awesome. Yeah, flaming tables and barbwire? No fucking shit that people who don't watch wrestling refers the most retarded bullshit as a reason as to why they don't watch. AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHY ARE THE DOLPHINS LOSING TO THE FUCKING JETS?! I HATE YOU FOOTBALL AND I HATE YOU MIAMI DOLPHINS THE WHOLE DAMN TEAM NEEDS TO MARCHED TO A TUNA CANNERY FOR FUCK'S SAKE. It's like you're the anti-Victator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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