Curt McGirt Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 https://thehardtimes.net/blog/when-this-vinyl-newbie-wanted-to-share-our-enthusiasm-for-records-we-banded-together-to-make-him-feel-stupid-and-inferior/  The Trout Mask Replica bit got me. Also, Sami is wearing a Propagandhi shirt on Raw right now 4 2
JLowe Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: https://thehardtimes.net/blog/when-this-vinyl-newbie-wanted-to-share-our-enthusiasm-for-records-we-banded-together-to-make-him-feel-stupid-and-inferior/  The Trout Mask Replica bit got me. Also, Sami is wearing a Propagandhi shirt on Raw right now Saw Propagandhi at a warehouse show in like ‘94 or so, it was summer in Austin so it was a steam bath inside. At one point, a naked dude jumped on stage and the singer put him on his shoulders, which was just nasty. Good show in general though. 2 1
Curt McGirt Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 It amazes me how entirely different they sound from that first album. It's basically like finding out Metallica used to play klezmer. 1
southofheavy Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Propagandhi rules. I was stuck on Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes for a while a few months ago. MAN, the title track kicks so much ass. 2
TheVileOne Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 https://www.hausofwrestling.com/2023/09/18/cm-punk-is-not-suing-tony-khan-following-termination-exclusive/Â Per Nick Hausman, CM Punk is not planning to sue AEW. I guess he got what he wanted. 1
Technico Support Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, TheVileOne said: https://www.hausofwrestling.com/2023/09/18/cm-punk-is-not-suing-tony-khan-following-termination-exclusive/ Per Nick Hausman, CM Punk is not planning to sue AEW. I guess he got what he wanted. I think the consensus theory is that he didn't get what he wanted but rather, they have footage of his outburst and his "worse than just a lunge" thing and all that, and his lawyers agree they'd be as effective in a lawsuit as Punk in a MMA match. AEW and whatever outside counsel they brought in was confident enough in their case to fire him with cause, after all. You think a guy who sued his former friend would back down from a suit against AEW just to avoid "drama?" Edited September 19, 2023 by Technico Support 1 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Technico Support said: AEW and whatever outside counsel they brought in was confident enough in their case to fire him with cause, after all. You think a guy who sued his former friend would back down from a suit against AEW just to avoid "drama?" As someone who lives in a state with shitty employment laws and been through this recently, in order for Punk to have a lawsuit, he would have to prove his termination was premeditated without justification and have a mountain of evidence. The first part would be difficult. The second part would be absolutely impossible even if he was in the right. Punk would be spending money to just spend money. The Cabana thing, whether or not you agree with the act, he felt he had more than enough to move forward with it. It's two separate things. 4
TheVileOne Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: I think the consensus theory is that he didn't get what he wanted but rather, they have footage of his outburst and his "worse than just a lunge" thing and all that, and his lawyers agree they'd be as effective in a lawsuit as Punk in a MMA match. AEW and whatever outside counsel they brought in was confident enough in their case to fire him with cause, after all. You think a guy who sued his former friend would back down from a suit against AEW just to avoid "drama?" Didn't Colt Cabana sue him first?
Technico Support Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Didn't Colt Cabana sue him first? I don't know man, I'm just saying that, ostensibly, Punk is not a "drop a lawsuit out of the goodness of my heart" guy. But @Elsalvajeloco is correct that it's apples and oranges anyway. I just really enjoyed the kicker of the story, that Punk was dropping the suit because he was done with the drama AEW caused in his life. Meanwhile, Punk's out here doing indy MMA commentary and making jokes about attacking his boss. Edited September 19, 2023 by Technico Support
TheVileOne Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 My thought was more CM Punk was intentionally trying to get fired.Â
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Basically Punk's a messy bitch, but not in a cute way, more like a "I can fix him!" rom-com kind of way, and it'll all end in heartbreak. 5 1
Technico Support Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Just the idea that he attacked another person and made him fear for his life, and then it's cool that he's allowed to joke about it, is disturbing. If this was David Starr making equivalent jokes about his own situation with his ex, there'd be an uproar. But it's two men so society dictates we're supposed to think TK is a wimp or some shit and make jokes about monitors falling on the guy like fuck him, right? Probably best we stay out of gender studies and get back to Zune talk, I guess. 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Punk is not a "drop a lawsuit out of the goodness of my heart" guy. I don't think he was ever planning to sue to begin with. Wasn't all the Cabana stuff when he was out of the ring? If you're planning to pursue other projects (probably most importantly, have some type of involvement with WWE), I don't think you're going to be having as much time for lawsuits as you did before. 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Just the idea that he attacked another person and made him fear for his life, and then it's cool that he's allowed to joke about it, is disturbing.  Dude, that happened on a show where a dude got head kicked and concussed so bad, it looked like he was frozen in carbonite. We gotta have some context. But yeah, John Morgan was going to joke about it anyway.Â
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Probably best we stay out of gender studies and get back to Zune talk, I guess. The Zune is a societal construct. 1 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 I feel like we missed out on the Raven character doing long, brooding promos about the Zune. 1
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I feel like we missed out on the Raven character doing long, brooding promos about the Zune. He truly was ahead of his time. 1
Curt McGirt Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Wait who got concussed? (I get the feeling that I am gonna be embarrassed I didn't know or forgot when told the answer) 1
Dog Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 I watched the show, and I was wondering the same thing.Â
AxB Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Nobody got concussed at AEW. Someone got concussed at Cage Fury Fulighting Champiobshipx. Sometimes you type so badly, autocorrect just moped out altogether.
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 4 hours ago, AxB said: Nobody got concussed at AEW. Someone got concussed at Cage Fury Fulighting Champiobshipx. Sometimes you type so badly, autocorrect just moped out altogether. Damn skippy someone did. https://twitter.com/UFCFightPass/status/1702856667493257696 My point was that Punk, Morgan, and whoever the pbp guy usually have a carefree environment during the shows. Moreover, Morgan always tries to start shit with Punk and Punk is generally a good sport about it. I dunno if it is meant to be directed at AEW in any way. That and I am not sure how much decorum you're going to get at a C level MMA show in the first place. 1
Godfrey Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) My view is Punk wouldn't have put out a statement that he decided not to sue if he didn't have the option to. He's saying he's taking the high road, to be taken with the appropriate amount of salt I went back and listened to Moxley on Renee's podcast admit to pulling a power play and forcing through the Rocky 3 angle because TK was foolish enough to put his world title on an unsigned wrestler. His words, not mine. Of course, Tony could have said "Thanks for the suggestion, Jon!" and then go on TV and turn it into an angle. "I trusted Jon Moxley and that was a mistake. He is holding our world title hostage for more money because he is scared to face the real world champion and I do not do business like that. He is immediately stripped of the interim title blah blah blah." Chalk that one up to a learning experience Anyway, part of that story is that Punk says he wasn't cleared for the Mox squash ahead of All Out. Perhaps he could have sued over having to wrestle against doctor's orders Edited September 19, 2023 by Godfrey
The Natural Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Insider asked Tony Khan why – when he addressed the Chicago crowd about CM Punk’s firing – he did it from the top of the ramp instead of in the ring: You can't see everybody's face from the center of the ring. You have to choose one side of the crowd to face when you're in the ring. And I wanted to be able to see everybody. I felt like, I'm not a wrestler and I don't need to be in the ring, and for this moment, I thought I would just sit down and talk to everybody. That's why I brought out a chair. And when I was done and walked backstage, the first person I saw was Ricky Steamboat and he said, ‘That was great, you turned the crowd. You turned them around. That's so hard to do, and you did it.’ I felt I at least owed that much to the wrestlers and the fans, to go out there and talk to everybody. 4
TheVileOne Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Godfrey said: My view is Punk wouldn't have put out a statement that he decided not to sue if he didn't have the option to. He's saying he's taking the high road, to be taken with the appropriate amount of salt I went back and listened to Moxley on Renee's podcast admit to pulling a power play and forcing through the Rocky 3 angle because TK was foolish enough to put his world title on an unsigned wrestler. His words, not mine. Of course, Tony could have said "Thanks for the suggestion, Jon!" and then go on TV and turn it into an angle. "I trusted Jon Moxley and that was a mistake. He is holding our world title hostage for more money because he is scared to face the real world champion and I do not do business like that. He is immediately stripped of the interim title blah blah blah." Chalk that one up to a learning experience Anyway, part of that story is that Punk says he wasn't cleared for the Mox squash ahead of All Out. Perhaps he could have sued over having to wrestle against doctor's orders Technically, CM Punk didn't put out a statement, unless that was Punk and his lawyers' way of feeding that story to Hausman to put it out there.
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