odessasteps Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, colonial said: If you want to stretch things, the Fabs worked an OVW show in 2000 that had a few WWF names and developmental guys sprinkled in. Fabs wrestled Derrick King and Jason Lee on the show. Main event was Kane/Damaja (Danny Basham) vs. D-Lo/Rob Conway. There was also a Kurt Angle/Sylvester Terkay singles bout -- I believe the two wrestled against one another in college so might be a curiosity (even though Terkay wasn't that great a pro). Regarding Stan Lane and the paternity story, Drudge Report had a link to a story that referred to Lane as "ex-WWE" and featured a photo of a cowboy wrestler who clearly is not Lane. (Bobby Duncum Jr., perhaps?) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, A Guy Named Tracy said: The news got me thinking… did Stan Lane ever wrestle for the WWF? (Not counting his stint as a color commentator of course.) By the time WWF had their crossover with SMW, Jimmy Del Ray had already replaced Stan in the Heavenly Bodies. Did the Fabs ever have a one-off at MSG? When the Fabolous Ones were a thing, they would have been too busy to do WWF. Plus, I doubt they would have fit the motif WWF wanted with their tag teams. When WWF did their heart throb tags teams, it was always the young vanilla babyfaces with some spunkiness to them. Sometimes, you got an exception but they never veered towards what the Fabs were. Same thing on the heel side when Lane was in the Midnight Express when they had that brush with almost being signed to WWF. They could have had some excellent matches but Vince would have given them a silly fucking gimmick and that would have neutered them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I guess the Fantastics never got a shot (or maybe they did and I just don't know) because they were too busy in NWA territory. They seem like the kind of baby team Vince would have gobbled up based on physique alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 You did later have Tommy wrestle Bobby in the WWF Light Heavyweight tournament, IIRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: I guess the Fantastics never got a shot (or maybe they did and I just don't know) because they were too busy in NWA territory. They seem like the kind of baby team Vince would have gobbled up based on physique alone. That's another one Vince probably wouldn't have gotten. Plus, Tommy wasn't exactly the biggest or charismatic guy in the world. It was sad when they had to face the Faces of Fear on Nitro in 96, and the whole act looked super antiquated. They also looked so tiny next to those guys. If they had went to WWF in their prime, they probably would have gotten the same treatment once Vince gave up on them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: You did later have Tommy wrestle Bobby in the WWF Light Heavyweight tournament, IIRC. I think that was a one-off (Rogers had one other match with Brian Christopher taped on the same night, a Raw and Shotgun Saturday Night taping in the metropolis of Lake Placid in front of 2700 fans - I did not realize that they still did those small-town Raws by the summer of 97) organized by Jim Cornette. I know Corny has talked about the circumstances of that match, maybe on WWF Timeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExcellenceofAirPollution Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 The NWO doc is on TV right now and I've never seen it (and there's nothing else on) so I'm giving it a watch. Never, ever saw or knew about them legit pushing the Steiners off the road and the car FLIPPING. That looked crazier than Gilbert running over Lawler. I'm surprised they didn't show it over and over because it's Turner, but also unsurprised they never showed it again because it's Turner. Who's call was that, because Turner later flipped over the Randy Anderson firing? They clearly weren't watching that close because it took complaints for that to blow up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Same thing on the heel side when Lane was in the Midnight Express when they had that brush with almost being signed to WWF. They could have had some excellent matches but Vince would have given them a silly fucking gimmick and that would have neutered them. When the Harris Twins first showed up in the WWF, before they shaved their heads and became Skull and 8 Ball, they were working as the Blu Brothers, Jacob and Eli. For ages I was convinced that Vince came up with those names years earlier, when he wanted to have a tag team doing a Blues Brothers (Jake and Elwood) gimmick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, AxB said: When the Harris Twins first showed up in the WWF, before they shaved their heads and became Skull and 8 Ball, they were working as the Blu Brothers, Jacob and Eli. For ages I was convinced that Vince came up with those names years earlier, when he wanted to have a tag team doing a Blues Brothers (Jake and Elwood) gimmick. Based on how creative ran back in the mid 90s, it's more likely Bruce got stoned, watched the Blues Brothers the night before work, and pitched it the next morning. FWIW They were the Bruise Brothers prior to WWF, even though the teams of the 80s who used that same name were doing the Blues Brothers type gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 6 hours ago, odessasteps said: imagine the lawsuits if near-blind Stan Hansen was fighting Beckley WV Fans to protect Jim Cornette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John E. Dynamite Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) I wonder if there are Secret Pro Wrestling Matches held in secluded Orlando-arena barns where AEW vs. WWE (maybe even CMLL vs. AAA or Bushiroad vs. CyberAgent) dream matches happen and the entirely-insider crowd is sworn to secrecy and there's explicit instructions to upload said matches to FutureTube in the event of both parties' demise (or their bosses'). Edited June 5, 2023 by John E. Dynamite 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 FTR, Baron Corbin has so much free time in his current WWE role that he was at the Big Slick Celebrity Softball game before a Royals game last Friday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said: I wonder if there are Secret Pro Wrestling Matches held in secluded Orlando-arena barns where AEW vs. WWE (maybe even CMLL vs. AAA or Bushiroad vs. CyberAgent) dream matches happen and the entirely-insider crowd is sworn to secrecy and there's explicit instructions to upload said matches to FutureTube in the event of both parties' demise (or their bosses'). They take place after Vince's weekly medical treatments designed to cheat death for one more week when he gets his booster shot. Edited June 5, 2023 by BrianS81177 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I could believe random Lucha matches being held off the grid between people in all the companies down there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I miss R-Truth. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I remain convinced that somewhere in Ron Killings' attic is a painting of him that ages instead of his body. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said: I wonder if there are Secret Pro Wrestling Matches held in secluded Orlando-arena barns where AEW vs. WWE (maybe even CMLL vs. AAA or Bushiroad vs. CyberAgent) dream matches happen and the entirely-insider crowd is sworn to secrecy and there's explicit instructions to upload said matches to FutureTube in the event of both parties' demise (or their bosses'). well, you're close to the truth. you see, what really happens is the get a few wrestlers from the different companies together, rent a ring, an..... .... ... [edit] my lawyer has instructed me to delete this comment and never mention it again.[/edit] no, of course something like you suggested couldn't happen. Edited June 5, 2023 by twiztor lawyer interference 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 No WWE PLE in June. The next PLE for NXT is Great America Bash in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Points to ponder: Adam Cole and Seth Rollins are not liked by a majority of people here and elsewhere in the wrestling fandom community. Yet both are incredibly over with live audiences and have been for years. They are doing something right. So… what are they doing right? I am tossing out the question for a jumping off point because I think it is an interesting way to think about those two. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Greggulator said: Points to ponder: Adam Cole and Seth Rollins are not liked by a majority of people here and elsewhere in the wrestling fandom community. Yet both are incredibly over with live audiences and have been for years. They are doing something right. So… what are they doing right? I am tossing out the question for a jumping off point because I think it is an interesting way to think about those two. I'm half kidding, but having interactive entrance music I think is a factor. Maybe not "the" factor but it can't be discounted either. Fans love to feel like part of the show. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Kevin Wilson said: I'm half kidding, but having interactive entrance music I think is a factor. Maybe not "the" factor but it can't be discounted either. Fans love to feel like part of the show. You know what? I don’t think you’re wrong. Their theme music and presentation en route to the ring both really stand out. I don’t think it’s the only reason but having the interactivity of both them really does help. A strong entrance really works for every wrestler who has one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Greggulator said: Points to ponder: Adam Cole and Seth Rollins are not liked by a majority of people here and elsewhere in the wrestling fandom community. Yet both are incredibly over with live audiences and have been for years. They are doing something right. So… what are they doing right? I am tossing out the question for a jumping off point because I think it is an interesting way to think about those two. Obviously it's that we're really smart and everyone else is dumb! (I kid) But I do think it may be as simple as a lot of the people here just looking for different things in their wrestling than the people who watch more "causually". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Greggulator said: Adam Cole and Seth Rollins are not liked by a majority of people here and elsewhere in the wrestling fandom community. Yet both are incredibly over with live audiences and have been for years. They are doing something right. So… what are they doing right? maybe the average person in that fandom community is just out of touch with the people outside of our bubble? sort of the equivalent to the people who don't listen to any commercial radio but listen to radio stations that run pledge drives annually or cordcutters that dramatically overestimate their numbers and are surprised that people still watch certain shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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