Dolphman 3000 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I have a bad feeling selling out with a large gate ahead of time is going to lead to a ROH at Madison Square Garden scenario where the card gets neutered and certain talents refuse to do the show unless they get additional payoffs I mean, better now than after having announced something like Punk vs. Kenny and both guys saying they're not getting on the plane for less than X dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 People are gonna get on you, but at least that's a version of "this is actually bad for AEW" that I haven't seen yet. Appreciate you. 1 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Jesus... 35K is a tremendous number for that presale. Everyone called him crazy but Tony did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: People are gonna get on you, but at least that's a version of "this is actually bad for AEW" that I haven't seen yet. Appreciate you. Jericho's going to use every power in his being to claw his way to the main event so he could say he drew that house 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: I have a bad feeling selling out with a large gate ahead of time is going to lead to a ROH at Madison Square Garden scenario where the card gets neutered and certain talents refuse to do the show unless they get additional payoffs I mean, better now than after having announced something like Punk vs. Kenny and both guys saying they're not getting on the plane for less than X dollars If the show managed to sell a good amount of tickets WITHOUT a match being announced, pretty sure you're not going to get an additional payoff. This ain't the 1980s and you ain't Bruiser Brody. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Even as an avowed non fan, it was hard to see how this was not going to be a financial success, esp the first day sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, Dolphman 3000 said: Jericho's going to use every power in his being to claw his way to the main event so he could say he drew that house Jericho-Jarrett dream match baby! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) Oh man, there’s like 2 guys in AEW I have zero interest in seeing Double J wrestle, and Jericho’s on that list (Adam Cole is the other). Yo give me Jarrett heeling it up (what’s the UK version of tortillas……tea bags?) against patriotic babyface PAC. That shit would rule. Bump and feed, Jeff, bump and feed. Edited May 2, 2023 by For Great Justice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Huh. Jarrett is about the ONLY guy I want to see Cole wrestle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: I have a bad feeling selling out with a large gate ahead of time is going to lead to a ROH at Madison Square Garden scenario where the card gets neutered and certain talents refuse to do the show unless they get additional payoffs I mean, better now than after having announced something like Punk vs. Kenny and both guys saying they're not getting on the plane for less than X dollars I'm not going to mock this because it's based on how things used to be. When your only payoff guaranteed to you was three $50 bookings and the rest was based on houses and what-not I'd see your point. That's how WWE used to be run. So you'd get Warrior holding them up for money because he didn't think his payoffs were going to be fair teaming with Hogan. But now with guaranteed contracts this isn't really a thing. No one is on paper only making $150 a month + discretionary bonuses. The Young Bucks make like $3 million a year each. They don't get to say nah I'm not doing All In without getting X amount extra. It's already baked into the guarantees. You show up and work as many dates as your contract allows for. So a little off the mark, but at least based on how business used to be done. Can anyone think of the last time there was a big payoff dispute or holdup? MJF not doing the Wardlow match doesn't count for me, because I truly think that was all part of the plan. Drum up drama for his TV shoot promo. He just took it too far and made it more of a spectacle than it needed to be. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 https://twitter.com/WorldFightFans/status/1445893688614346752 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Dolphman 3000 said: I have a bad feeling selling out with a large gate ahead of time is going to lead to a ROH at Madison Square Garden scenario where the card gets neutered and certain talents refuse to do the show unless they get additional payoffs I mean, better now than after having announced something like Punk vs. Kenny and both guys saying they're not getting on the plane for less than X dollars Huh? I was at the NJPW/ROH MSG show. It was a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Huh? I was at the NJPW/ROH MSG show. It was a great time. Bucks and Kenny no-showed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Huh? I was at the NJPW/ROH MSG show. It was a great time. It was a great time except for the Enzo/Big Cass nonsense and Matt Taven winning the ROH world title instead of Marty Scurll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, Dolphman 3000 said: Bucks and Kenny no-showed They didn't no-show. They had left New Japan by that point. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Cincinnati said: People are gonna get on you, but at least that's a version of "this is actually bad for AEW" that I haven't seen yet. Appreciate you. Worse, people are taking him seriously. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: They didn't no-show. They had left New Japan by that point. They made it super clear they wouldn’t be anywhere near New York that weekend but for everyone to have a great time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: It was a great time except for the Enzo/Big Cass nonsense and Matt Taven winning the ROH world title instead of Marty Scurll. I thought the Enzo/Cass shit was hilarious. I guess I wouldn't say it was "good" but we had pretty good seats so I filmed the whole thing and we were laughing like crazy back at the hotel room. Taven winning fucking sucked though, spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Is there a whole sub-forum for the AEW Rage Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, matt925 said: They made it super clear they wouldn’t be anywhere near New York that weekend but for everyone to have a great time. In December 2018 - 4 months after tickets had already sold out with people assuming they were going to be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I'm all for TK going in on any scrub that's trying to tear them down for no reason. They have a banger of a day with presales so someone has to try and curb the positivity by throwing out some bullshit. Funny how that guy then doesn't respond to the tweets at all and instead gets back to his regularly scheduled tweeting of boxing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dolphman 3000 said: In December 2018 - 4 months after tickets had already sold out with people assuming they were going to be there And here I thought I (and everybody else) liked the show despite unadvertised talent who didn't work for the company not being on the card. Good thing you told me that all those tickets being sold for Wembley is actually a bad thing, or I might have ended up liking All In too. Go post about things you like, it will make you happier. At this point I'm wondering what their step-on-the-gas ticket mover is going to be. I imagine they'll announce it whenever ticket sales stall, but I would imagine the major ones would be a Punk return or one of the three huge Kenny matches you could run (Okada, Ibushi, Ospreay). I entirely expect Saraya vs. Hayter. I am optimistic about ZSJ vs. Danielson. But I'm not entirely sure about the breadth of NJPW involvement so soon after Forbidden Door since they've kind of proven they don't NEED IT for Wembley. I'm more curious where the homegrowns are gonna end up and what still-waiting-to-break-out UK talent will be featured. NXTUK releases on the undercard? That Leon Slater kid somebody told me about getting a tryout? We'll see. Edited May 2, 2023 by John E. Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I was thinking Ospreay and ZSJ would have spots on the show and they might but there's some big matches they can put on there. CM Punk vs. Omega would be a big fight feel. CM Punk vs. Bryan hasn't happened in years, that would feel like a big deal too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said: And here I thought I (and everybody else) liked the show despite unadvertised talent who didn't work for the company not being on the card. Good thing you told me that all those tickets being sold for Wembley is actually a bad thing, or I might have ended up liking All In too. Go post about things you like, it will make you happier. At this point I'm wondering what their step-on-the-gas ticket mover is going to be. I imagine they'll announce it whenever ticket sales stall, but I would imagine the major ones would be a Punk return or one of the three huge Kenny matches you could run (Okada, Ibushi, Ospreay). I entirely expect Saraya vs. Hayter. I am optimistic about ZSJ vs. Danielson. But I'm not entirely sure about the breadth of NJPW involvement so soon after Forbidden Door since they've kind of proven they don't NEED IT for Wembley. I'm more curious where the homegrowns are gonna end up and what still-waiting-to-break-out UK talent will be featured. NXTUK releases on the undercard? That Leon Slater kid somebody told me about getting a tryout? We'll see. Omega-Yano II. Done! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 All I'm saying is that you have a volatile situation where Bucks/Kenny and Punk are 8 months removed from All Out, and nothing has been resolved. We're heading towards another Bret/Shawn situation - instead of turning All In into Montreal, I'd rather Tony keep Punk and The Elite off the card entirely. If they want to pull bullshit and ratfuck each other, let them do it on a smaller stage than Wembley. Punk and The Bucks have been trying to one-up each other with showing how much they want to leave in the past couple weeks, so focus the show on literally anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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