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33 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said:

Since late 2021, actually. He ran a non-deathmatch show in Rochester, NY (he also runs a restaurant in Rochester) back then with Brian Cage winning a world title tournament, but since NY can't have blood he's been running bi-monthly shows in Los Angeles since 2022. And in recent months, he also took over ICW's venue in New Jersey and stole a bunch of their talent. So he's running monthly XPW shows in either Los Angeles or New Jersey.

And occasionally he runs no-ring shows called "Theater of Brutality" out of his restaurant in Rochester and streams them for free

This takes me back.  I bought two XPW VHS tapes at a store in the mall one time.  Had no clue what it was all about.  It was some of the worst wrestling I had ever seen but it was also unintentional hilarious at times.  

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12 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

This takes me back.  I bought two XPW VHS tapes at a store in the mall one time.  Had no clue what it was all about.  It was some of the worst wrestling I had ever seen but it was also unintentional hilarious at times.  

The first Philadelphia event in 2002 was really good, but Rob kept gradually stealing talent from CZW and pissing off their fans, so the crowds kept getting smaller and smaller.

Jonny Storm and Juventud Guerrera wrestled a 5-star match in front of 30 people:

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15 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

I went to some indy show at the Arena I think after ecw closed maybe in 2001 with Jeff Amdur and Barry Casino but for the life of me, I don't know what promotion it was. 

If it wasn't CZW's Cage of Death in December 2001, it had to have been either JAPW (which ran monthly) or the MECW show in August

I think the MECW show was over-capacity so they let everyone in for free

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(11.08.2001) MECW Inaugural Show - Event @ Viking Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

New Jack defeats DeVito
Chris Chetti & Danny Doring defeat Christian York & Joey Matthews
Buff Bagwell defeats Jack Victory (w/Steve Corino)
Hot Commodity (Chris Hamrick & Julio Dinero) defeat Hell On Earth (Prince Justice & Rob Williams)
MECW World Heavyweight Title: Curt Hennig (c) defeats Chris Harris
MECW World Tag Team Title Falls Count Anywhere: The Public Enemy (Johnny Grunge & Rocco Rock) (c) defeat The FBI (Little Guido & Tony Mamaluke)
Simon Diamond defeats The Blue Meanie (w/Jasmin St. Claire)

Three Way Dance: Crowbar defeats Billy Reil and Roadkill
Mike Rotunda & Rockin' Rebel defeat The Gladiators (Gary Wolfe & Johnny Hot Body)
MECW APW Hardcore Title Stairway To Heaven Match (vakant): Sabu (w/Bill Alfonso) defeats The Sandman

 

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It was likely not after April, when I moved to VAB. 

I should probably ask Jeff as he has a better memory for these things. All I really remember is which park and ride I met them at when they picked me up to go to Philly. Similar to how I can't remember any of the cards I saw up in PA that Blaine ran in the late 90s that I drove up to see. 

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According to Jeff, it was the debut show for MLW in 2002.

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Name of the event:
MLW Genesis
Date:
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Arena:

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MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Quarter Final Match
Jerry Lynn defeats La Parka (7:04)
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MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Quarter Final Match
Vampiro defeats Christopher Daniels (13:56)
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MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Quarter Final Match
Taiyo Kea defeats Jerry Tuite (6:43)
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MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Quarter Final Match
Shane Douglas defeats Steve Corino (9:40)
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Six Man Tag Team Match
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MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Semi Final Match
Shane Douglas defeats Jerry Lynn (7:32)
:::: Not recommended yet. ::::
MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Semi Final Match
Taiyo Kea vs. Vampiro - Draw (17:00)
:::: Not eligible for the matchguide: match length < 5 minutes. ::::
MLW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Final Three Way Dance (vakant)
Shane Douglas defeats Taiyo Kea and Vampiro (1:15) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

 

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6 hours ago, Dolphman 3000 said:

Rob Black sees XPW getting any kind of publicity as a win

He recently pulled XPW off FITE in favor of XPW's own streaming service because he didn't want to deal with blowback on content - now we know why

Drake Younger has been a regular competitor there since the company started back up as well. I'm sure Rob Black feels like catering to the "politically incorrect" segment of fans is somehow lucrative. I just checked their merch site and some of their shirts have slogans like "You can't cancel what was already cancelled".

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1 hour ago, Infinit said:

Did the "Juvy's Juice Bar" segment happen on an XPW show? Because if so, that would probably be the best thing XPW ever did.

Yep! That was the first Philadelphia show Hostile Takeover, which also featured the Rob Naylor-approved "Best Tag Team Match Performance By a Guy Who Was Never Seen Before Or Since" in Smokey Carmichael:

 

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4 hours ago, HumanChessgame said:

Drake Younger has been a regular competitor there since the company started back up as well. I'm sure Rob Black feels like catering to the "politically incorrect" segment of fans is somehow lucrative. I just checked their merch site and some of their shirts have slogans like "You can't cancel what was already cancelled".

Also Necro Butcher, using the ring name MAGA Butcher.

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19 minutes ago, zendragon said:

I remember during Rob Black obscenity trial he seemed to have no support from the porn industry. You have to be pretty scummy to be the mosted hated guy in wrestling AND porn

I just happen to read an old review of one of XPW's shows last night. It's whatever show from 2002 that had the "Raw Sewage" match with the pornstars. When you consider stuff like that, I doubt ANYONE of sound mind and body would want to be in any way connected to him be it in the adult entertainment industry or not.

If you want to be the G.G. Allin of pro wrestling, good for you I guess. However, there are better ways to lose your money than running a pro wrestling promotion.

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32 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

imagining the alternate universe where Michael PS Hayes gets the Godfather gimmick

There is only 2 years ages difference between Hayes and Charles Wright so it could of been possible.

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6 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

I just happen to read an old review of one of XPW's shows last night. It's whatever show from 2002 that had the "Raw Sewage" match with the pornstars. When you consider stuff like that, I doubt ANYONE of sound mind and body would want to be in any way connected to him be it in the adult entertainment industry or not.

If you want to be the G.G. Allin of pro wrestling, good for you I guess. However, there are better ways to lose your money than running a pro wrestling promotion.

I want to know how he ended up in the restaurant industry and why any sane person would eat there knowing who owns it? Brings new meaning to the term "Garbage Plate".

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On 3/25/2023 at 11:15 AM, Dolphman 3000 said:

 

WWE needs to do better to protect and take care of their athletes. If that means security detail at the airport, then yes. 

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The Angels are in Oakland this weekend, so not likely that Ohtani can show up in a luxury box at Wrestlemania but right now, he'd pretty much be the one baseball player who could be in a crowd shot at a WWE show where the response from non-baseball fans wouldn't be heavily "who's that dude"

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