Ultimo Necro Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I went through a ton of AJPW tapes back in the day but the only thing that sticks is random Kobashi matches and MVC tags. Michinoku Pro stuff sticks in my head more which is kind of weird. I’ve still never seen much of original ECW tv. Didn’t watch it at the time and it wasn’t something I picked up on tapes or watched on WWE network (if it was even on there?). I’ve only ever really watched the PPV’s and TNN era TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I remember getting my first comps from Lorefice back around 99. So much good stuff mixed with some "was this yrip really necessary?" Stuff James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Ziggy said: I love Sasha/Mercedes as much as anyone but She already has a reputation for being rude to fans so you can't blame him for attacking her. Rhea doesn't have that reputation and I think Bubba and his peers are fans of her work as far as I know. Sasha is held in the highest regard as a worker but even her biggest fans within the business have no issues acknowledging her track record with fans even though she probably has the most creepiest and obsessive fans of all the women in the industry overall Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that nobody is untitled to your time no matter how famous you are. I'm pretty sure everyone who knows me considers me genuinely nice, but I'd bet most strangers would describe me as standoffish at best and mean or rude at worst. I'm just not that interested in talking to strangers. So if you approach someone you don't know in public, you get what you get. You always have the choice to leave people the fuck alone, and if you don't they might be rude to you. It's more rude to interrupt someone's day and expect them to sign shit and take pictures, than it is to not be happy about strangers asking you for a bunch of shit. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-high-school-student-becomes-pro-wrestling-sensation/article_92fe5be6-c9f0-11ed-81d0-5747cc6710ab.html So, I knew Billie Starks was still in high school or just out, but had no idea that high school was the one my daughter will most likely attend in a couple years. Fun fact: Jack Harlow also went to Atherton High. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Hell, due to the sheer number of highly rated matches, I am pretty sure I somehow haven't seen a bunch of 90s All Japan matches. I think a lot of it is because at some point, stuff started running together and I am not entirely sure if I seen it or not based on the year. Pre coronavirus New Japan was starting to get up there for awhile. I just got to a point where I refuse to watch all of it. There is so much great stuff, and it's all worth watching, but you have to break it up into chunks or it will all run together. Watch the 90-91 Jumbo and friends vs Misawa and friends feud, then take a break and comeback and watch Misawa and Kawada start their feud. Then watch Kobashi's ascension, etc. It's funny, but you need some filler. We all have stood in the fridge eating slices of cheese or some cold cuts, but when you're making a meal you will get some bread, some mayo, some mustard, a pickle, lettuce, tomato, and you'll have a satisfying sandwich. Watching all of the great matches from 90s AJPW is like eating a pound of cold cuts. It doesn't really matter how much you like it, you'll get tired of eating that shit pretty quickly. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 The Rock's Concert - YouTube 20 years today. The Rock's concert on the RAW before WWE WrestleMania XIX. Still one of the funniest things in my years watching wrestling and I know all the lyrics by heart even now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 Today is also The Undertaker's birthday. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 When I first got high speed internet in late '03 I downloaded a ton of classical AJPW from the 90s I probably watched watched the famous Kobashi vs Misawa matches once with no context no order. I want to go back and watch alot of these matches again in order. It's was a whole new universe of wrestling getting to see guys like Kawada , Akiyama, Kobashi and people like that I had only read about in the Apter mags in the late 90s and reading about the formation on NOAH which became my favorite promotion in 2004 to around 2007 behind Ring of Honor at the time. Then back at the end of 2011 I was out of work for a whole month and it was around the time of one of the Joshimania weekends so I spent most of that time watching a ton of 90s Joshi and even current Joshi at the time. It was so good really learning Joshi and probably the most enjoyment watching wrestling. Alot of those Kobashi vs Misawa matches and matches with Kawada as much as I enjoyed them. I feel like I can't really count as matches I've seen because most you guys can name the dates and the arenas. That would be like someone watching the 3 Rock vs Austin Wrestlemania matches out of order and not knowing the dates or time periods 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 anybody wanna make up a number of what percentage of US-based Puro fans know Japanese? I don't know how much would be added by knowing the language and listening to commentary but if you don't, you're judging the whole thing on visuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: anybody wanna make up a number of what percentage of US-based Puro fans know Japanese? I don't know how much would be added by knowing the language and listening to commentary but if you don't, you're judging the whole thing on visuals Visuals and the emotional pitch of the audience/commentary response. Unless you're watching it on mute for some reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 So much of puroresu commentary is loan words. Move names in particular, once you learn what they sound like pronounced in Japanese they start clicking. I know the names of body parts. Red and blue. Numbers. Giant Baba saying So desu ne~. I get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Ziggy said: When I first got high speed internet in late '03 I downloaded a ton of classical AJPW from the 90s I probably watched watched the famous Kobashi vs Misawa matches once with no context no order. I want to go back and watch alot of these matches again in order. It's was a whole new universe of wrestling getting to see guys like Kawada , Akiyama, Kobashi and people like that I had only read about in the Apter mags in the late 90s and reading about the formation on NOAH which became my favorite promotion in 2004 to around 2007 behind Ring of Honor at the time. Then back at the end of 2011 I was out of work for a whole month and it was around the time of one of the Joshimania weekends so I spent most of that time watching a ton of 90s Joshi and even current Joshi at the time. It was so good really learning Joshi and probably the most enjoyment watching wrestling. Alot of those Kobashi vs Misawa matches and matches with Kawada as much as I enjoyed them. I feel like I can't really count as matches I've seen because most you guys can name the dates and the arenas. That would be like someone watching the 3 Rock vs Austin Wrestlemania matches out of order and not knowing the dates or time periods Last week, I realized I hadn't watched the last of the Rock vs. Austin WM trilogy since it happened back in 2003 and maybe a few years ago during covid I stopped like mid way for whatever reason. Then I realized why. That final five minutes and the aftermath is incredibly sad. Kinda heartwarming based on Rock breaking character and sitting down to thank Austin for what he's done, but also incredibly sad and bittersweet. Not on the level of seeing Ali against Larry Holmes or Tyson losing to Lennox Lewis for me personally, but it's up there now that I finally watched the whole thing and it's fresh in my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I avoided watching the Shawn/Razor SummerSlam 1995 ladder match for a long time because I loved their first one so much and didn't want it to taint the original in my memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I took Japanese in college(i failed) but i know enough to infer. Same with high school Spanish and lucha commentary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: I avoided watching the Shawn/Razor SummerSlam 1995 ladder match for a long time because I loved their first one so much and didn't want it to taint the original in my memory The 2nd one in many ways a better match even though it was kinda thrown together at the last minute and it's now face vs. face. I think they realized that card was gonna suck if the top two matches were just Taker vs. Kama and Diesel vs. Mabel. The only issue is you can tell we're in full Shawn is a clear and utter asshole mode. Either it's that or he was just so much of a perfectionist that he was a bundle of nerves going into that match. Between showing up the referee before the match for hanging the belt up wrong (not absolving the ref cause you should know the correct way and it's not with the main plate facing up or down for that matter) and losing his cool over the botched finish (that WAS Shawn's fault), it's evident what path Shawn was headed down over the next 2 and 1/2 years from that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I wonder if I’ve read more wrestling than actually watched. I know that is likely the case recently. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 9:31 PM, Casey said: so I was watching Brian Zane’s review of WrestleMania 13 and I realized I’ve never watched Bret/Austin before. Yeah, yeah, I know. But that leads me to an interesting topic: what are some matches that people consider classics and/or required viewing that you’ve never seen? Or don’t want to because of someone involved? I’ve also never watched the Razor/HBK ladder match or the Iron Man match between Bret/Shawn (or the Montreal Screwjob outside of clips). I’ve never seen any of those either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Has anyone posted this yet? Because it's pretty freaking awesome. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The 2nd one in many ways a better match even though it was kinda thrown together at the last minute and it's now face vs. face. I think they realized that card was gonna suck if the top two matches were just Taker vs. Kama and Diesel vs. Mabel. The only issue is you can tell we're in full Shawn is a clear and utter asshole mode. Either it's that or he was just so much of a perfectionist that he was a bundle of nerves going into that match. Between showing up the referee before the match for hanging the belt up wrong (not absolving the ref cause you should know the correct way and it's not with the main plate facing up or down for that matter) and losing his cool over the botched finish (that WAS Shawn's fault), it's evident what path Shawn was headed down over the next 2 and 1/2 years from that point. I've always liked the 2nd ladder match more than the first, even with the slightly botched ending and other problems you mentioned. Then again, I like the SummerSlam'92 match with Warrior and Savage way more than I do the Wrestlemania VII, only difference being the post-match angle being awesome at WM VII and quite shitty at SS'92. I'm sure there are other similar instances, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Octopus said: I wonder if I’ve read more wrestling than actually watched. I know that is likely the case recently. Probably true for me as well. I mean I took 6 months off from watching wrestling all together in 2007 when that one slightly uncomfortable thing that has happened in the business happened, but even then I was reading about wrestling pretty much every day. Also, these days my chances of watching wrestling are severely limited even though the available material exceeds my wildest dreams. Still, there's always enough time to read through the Discussion threads. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I just saw Sheamus on the last episode of NCIS Los Angeles, bare knuckle boxing LL Cool J! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ka-to Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 18 hours ago, DJ Hero Morganti said: I took Japanese in college(i failed) but i know enough to infer. Same with high school Spanish and lucha commentary. My brain turns off any English when I try to speak Spanish. However when I don't know the Spanish word my brain substitutes Japanese verbs in the Spanish sentence. I bought a mask from Violento Jack when I went to Japan last month. Our conversation was a mix of Japanese, Spanish and English. It kind of just flowed that way. I also went to one of the Fantasctica Mania shows. Being in Japan but trying to understand all of the videos and announcing in Spanish messed me up in my head. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 My college roommate majored in, among other things, Japanese and he told me that I didn't have the discipline to try and learn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 From Kurt's podcast Kurt Angle had successful back surgery work done. He no longer feels pain down his legs and has no more problems with his legs. The back pain hasn't went away yet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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