Eivion Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Greggulator said: Am I crazy in thinking that nearly everyone on the main roster right now is at least very good? 90-95% of the roster is solid at worst, and I would say most of that number is actively good. Like maybe she just isn't your cup of tea, but Carmella is generally solid-good and easily in the middle of the women's roster in terms of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Not that I have any desire to see him back in the ring, but what is Randy Orton's status? I seem to recall he had a serious injury to rehab but he's been gone almost a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I may go as far as to say there's no one actively bad in-ring in any televised wrestling these days. WWE, AEW, Impact, ROH, MLW, on and on down the list have very talented rosters. I guess maybe that dude with the neck tattoos that teams with Swerve might be the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 What's the deal with Fred Yehi? I thought he was poised to break out at one point, but now it doesn't seem like he works much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Honestly, thinking on it. Most of even the worst folks actively working on S/A/B tier promotions are mostly just green. There are very few vets working who are sub replacement level these days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Today is the 29th anniversary of a bunch of wrestlers and their promoter going to an ice cream based fast food drive in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Okay what the hell did Davey Richards do this time that he is getting removed from everything including his own wrestling school 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Eivion said: Carmella is generally solid-good and easily in the middle of the women's roster in terms of talent. Carmella is near the bottom as far as talent goes, but that says more about the greatness of the women's roster than it does anything negative about Carmella. She's legitimately great at the character, but when you have to compete with Rhea Ripley, Bianca Belair, Charlotte, Asuka, and Becky Lynch, being a great character still only gets you so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, hammerva said: Okay what the hell did Davey Richards do this time that he is getting removed from everything including his own wrestling school Is an abusive cokehead, based on a custody filing from his ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, HumanChessgame said: Not that I have any desire to see him back in the ring, but what is Randy Orton's status? I seem to recall he had a serious injury to rehab but he's been gone almost a year now. He had back surgery. Last I heard, Meltzer was saying there’s no time table for his return and the company isn’t sure he will return. That was a couple months ago (January, I think). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, supremebve said: Carmella is near the bottom as far as talent goes, but that says more about the greatness of the women's roster than it does anything negative about Carmella. She's legitimately great at the character, but when you have to compete with Rhea Ripley, Bianca Belair, Charlotte, Asuka, and Becky Lynch, being a great character still only gets you so far. Can we swap out Charlotte for Bayley? Considering one has had really good-great matches in the past year with Bianca and Becky while the other is partaking in boring matches with Ronda, Sonya Deville, and Shotzi? I can’t think of a more overrated woman (in WWE) than Charlotte. I’d much rather watch Carmella at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, LF2 said: Can we swap out Charlotte for Bayley? Considering one has had really good-great matches in the past year with Bianca and Becky while the other is partaking in boring matches with Ronda, Sonya Deville, and Shotzi? I can’t think of a more overrated woman (in WWE) than Charlotte. I’d much rather watch Carmella at this point. Bayley, Io Shirai, Dakota, Shayna Baszler...I could keep going but I don't have all day. The division is full of great talent, no need to remove anybody. If there is someone you don't like very much, pick someone else they have someone in pretty much every flavor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Ricky Reyes has announced his retirement 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Greggulator said: WWE question: Am I crazy in thinking that nearly everyone on the main roster right now is at least very good? The one guy who actively isn’t is Top Dolla, but he is really green and should still be in NXT. Dom deserves all his rave reviews for his character work. But in his recent matches - he hit all his spots clean, he has a really killer frog splash and he has really good heel timing. He won’t have any traditional five star matches but he will I listen to clips of Konnan and Discos podcasts on YouTube while I'm at work and they both talk about how they give him advice on even alot of the subtle things. I don't watch Raw but they talk about some things he's doing that even alot of the top experienced wrestlers aren't doing. You can tell Konnan has been giving advice on his character work too. I wish he got to spend time in NXT first even though he doesn't seem to be as athletically gifted as his dad but him mastering positioning and timing can make up for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 5:26 PM, Niners Fan in CT said: Watched Bash at the Beach '96 again while we're here wondering whether it's gonna snow or not. It's really amazing how the closing segment all came together with the crowd organically becoming more and more pissed where now everyone is throwing trash.. There's no way WCW could have thought that it would have worked out THAT well with the crowd participation. What are some other moments you can remember where the crowd takes a cool moment and elevates it to legendary status? Rock/Foley/Too Cool/Rikishi vs HHH/X-Pac/Saturn/Benoit/Malenko. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I'll throw up a topic for debate. Best matches of guys who had a clearly established formula they did most nights that broke that mould. Bret, Flair, later Shawn, Cena, Hogan, the Bucks, suplex city Lesnar..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 First two that come to mind are Taker's matches with Foley and Vader at Survivor Series and the Rumble after Bearer turns heel on him. They did a great job of redefining the zombie character as this puppet without strings discovering what his capabilities are on his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I think Flair and Bret both have lots of matches that deviated from what you'd say would be their formula. The Young Bucks vs. Hangman/Omega comes to mind for them. That was very much more of a traditional tag and layout where the drama of the story took precedence. For John Cena I assume you mean the 2005-ish era Cena. He had a really great 2007 against a variety of opponents but none better than Umaga and their Last Man Standing match at Royal Rumble was a classic monster heel performance that made Cena desperate and go to places where you wouldn't normally see a top babyface go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) My vote for “best non-formula match from a formula wrestler” might go to Goldberg/Steiner from Fall Brawl 2000. Holy shit this match rules at a time when neither guy did much out there, and is really the prototype for the last decade of Brock Lesnar main events. I’ll also throw the Austin/HHH vs Jericho/Benoit tag a bone. That was four formula guys to a degree and they just go tear the house down in something totally unique. Edited March 18, 2023 by For Great Justice 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 If you haven't watched it, check out the wwe 2k23 live stream vid from yesterday, the last like 15-20 minutes is Breeze and woods basically having a mini interview with Stone cold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: I'll throw up a topic for debate. Best matches of guys who had a clearly established formula they did most nights that broke that mould. Bret, Flair, later Shawn, Cena, Hogan, the Bucks, suplex city Lesnar..? So best matches away from the usual formula? For Bret the Submission match with Austin at WM 13 makes the most sense as it was just a straight up brawl. For Hogan I would guess the Hansen match. For Cena its Umaga LMS & Edge TLC. Both were matches where he went a bit more violent than usual and had to use some hate to win. Suplex City Brock hasn't really moved away from his formula. He has just had opponents who knew how to work within it in AJ, Bryan, & Finn. The LMS match with Roman might be the closest as it went for general craziness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, For Great Justice said: My vote for “best non-formula match from a formula wrestler” might go to Goldberg/Steiner from Fall Brawl 2000. Holy shit this match rules at a time when neither guy did much out there, and is really the prototype for the last decade of Brock Lesnar main events. I’ll also throw the Austin/HHH vs Jericho/Benoit tag a bone. That was four formula guys to a degree and they just go tear the house down in something totally unique. Turning Austin heel ultimately proved to be a very bad idea, but once he cleared the initial Brothers of Destruction feud, heel Austin vs. Benoit, Jericho, Angle over the summer felt like a breath of fresh air after some years of him having the same type of match every week. Austin taking the rolling Germans felt wild at the time. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 What the fuck! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 New wrestling crossword up today. Will this tweet embed? Let's find out! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, EVA said: Turning Austin heel ultimately proved to be a very bad idea, but once he cleared the initial Brothers of Destruction feud, heel Austin vs. Benoit, Jericho, Angle over the summer felt like a breath of fresh air after some years of him having the same type of match every week. Austin taking the rolling Germans felt wild at the time. I loved Austin bringing back the piledriver for the Angle feud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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