BrianS81177 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: The Kingdom are just the worst and I don't understand why they're still employed. You could audibly hear the air being sucked out of that arena during their entrance (and pretty much every entrance of theirs.) At the Seattle Dynamite, when they taped a few Dark matches before the show started the very first team to come out was the Bollywood Boyz who got a big pop (they work for Defy a lot so they're pretty popular locally). Everyone was excited to see them, then you hear "Thy Kingdom Come..." and literally it was like that sound they play on the Price Is Right when someone doesn't win (bumbumbumbum bummmmmmm). Like you said, all the air went out of the arena because everyone realized the BB were gonna have to job to these two clowns. 56 minutes ago, Craig H said: Not quite. I don't think Hobbs knew how to get the ring off of the carabiner and for a second, I thought someone made the mistake of take the little screw on the carabiner and screwing it down to prevent it from being unclipped. Hobbs looked pretty scared to try and get down from that ladder too. My nephew and I were laughing as he grabbed the ring then just kind of stood there awkwardly looking down hoping not to fall. Edited March 2, 2023 by BrianS81177 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Bill has been steadily improving since getting out of WWE. He's been great as Stokely's muscle. The ladder match was dangerous af, but the chemistry between Hobbs and Takeshita was money. I'm guessing Hobbs was a bit slow bringing down the ring because he was standing on that rickety-ass ladder with 3 referees holding it down. That looked terrible, but good for the refs biting the bullet and prioritizing a guy's safety for once. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Moneghetti Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: Hobbs looked pretty scared to try and get down from that ladder too. My nephew and I were laughing as he grabbed the ring then just kind of stood there awkwardly looking down hoping not to fall. People on Twitter are claiming three refs were in the ring holding the ladder steady during the final climb. Anyone know if that is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 There were 3 yeah, that ladder was jacked up and he should have grabbed the other in the ring 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 One of the legs got badly bent on the move before he climbed, I don't know why the refs didn't yell to get the other ladder in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Right before he started climbing, Hobbs had a look on his face for half a second that said "Hold up, I think this might be a bad idea...." I wonder why he didn't call an audible and just go get another ladder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droneking Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 “The biggest concern is holding the live crowd’s attention,” says Danielson. “It is very important to have statement moments scattered regularly throughout the match. Having just read two books by Cormac McCarthy, he’s a great study in minimalism when it comes to fiction. He has these incredible sentences that hit you right in the heart. We need those sprinkled throughout the match, and plot twists. Overall, it needs to be a compelling narrative where the live crowd feels it. I know, 100%, the matches before us are going to be outstanding. We’re going an hour, and we can’t have a stinker. This is the last match of the night.” Leave it to Bryan Danielson to bring Cormac McCarthy into wrestling. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tarheel Moneghetti said: People on Twitter are claiming three refs were in the ring holding the ladder steady during the final climb. Anyone know if that is true? Yeah, you could see the ladder was bent as hell after Hobbs trucked into it. It looked a little too short too, dunno why they didn't just bring in a taller ladder. When Hobbs finally got down it looked like at least 4 referees were holding the ladder in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: Yeah, you could see the ladder was bent as hell after Hobbs trucked into it. It looked a little too short too, dunno why they didn't just bring in a taller ladder. When Hobbs finally got down it looked like at least 4 referees were holding the ladder in place. You can blame GCW for starting this trend At least in ECW the referees would act like they were trying to pull a table away from the other wrestler when they were helping them get one into the ring - in GCW the refs just come out with doors/chairs in the middle of the match to set up spots. Makes no sense in kayfabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I don't give a damn about kayfabe, I just don't wanna see Will Hobbs fall and get paralyzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 If ladder matches can't be done safely without refs holding ladders, don't do ladder matches. I wouldn't miss them. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 A few of the weaker Dynamites I can remember were go home shows. So not a huge surprise that this would be a challenging broadcast. Generally speaking, when AEDub tries to cram more (see a lot Rampages) into the show or match (every 8 way ladder match; most battle royals) the success rate drops below their favourable average. These ‘Face of the Revolution’ matches are always completely forgettable and not at all worth the risk of injury. I would really love for this concept to end here - tho I’m grateful it’s not eating up PPV time this year. All that said, certainly there were some thrilling spots in here. This one seemed to start fine until that first ascent up the ladder from Guevara, not selling anything, with no reason for moving slowly at all, just waiting for somebody to stop him. More awful slow climbs followed. Still some fun stuff in there, and especially nice to see Hobbs get his local flowers. I just skimmed The Casino Battle Royal. Maybe, just maybe, somebody in creative will ask aloud ‘do we really need to keep this multiple battle royals for ‘two’ spots in a 4 way tag at the PPV concept an annual tradition?’ And hope the answer is a resounding ‘no’. Regardless, fun bouts this week from Riho-Toni, OC-Big Bill, and Avalon-Jericho. Hook and Hardy was kinda fun. Some really exceptional promos this week from Mox, Hangman, Dustin/Keith Lee, Danielson and especially Christian. The Jungle Boy video was pretty cheese whiz, but odd enough for a laugh. The House of Black-Elite segment was a bit of bummer, which is on brand with the House. Not that they needed to sell me on wanting to see the match. Very much looking forward to the PPV. Also looking forward to Rampage and this Lee/Rhodes duo and how young Parker does in there with the Swerve man. Not generally a fan of 4 way matches, but it does feature 4 terrific teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: Yeah, you could see the ladder was bent as hell after Hobbs trucked into it. It looked a little too short too, dunno why they didn't just bring in a taller ladder. When Hobbs finally got down it looked like at least 4 referees were holding the ladder in place. The visual of Hobbs running through and bending that ladder all to shit was cool as hell at least. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Tarheel Moneghetti said: People on Twitter are claiming three refs were in the ring holding the ladder steady during the final climb. Anyone know if that is true? https://twitter.com/Butchified1/status/1631412149246623744/ It's true. Understandably so. The ladder was wrecked to hell and Hobbs didn't want to break his neck. Probably should've just grabbed the other ladder but it probably didn't come to him in that moment. I mean wrestler safety above all else. It's happened in WWE before as well, but they are usually good about keeping them out of camera view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian_Waffle Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Jenalysis said: Juice is actually a better talker then wrestler- he just needs to go back to 2018 even if it means the dreads again. Check Juice vs Jay White feud- that was underrated feud of the year in NJPW, and he had great promos from that in Cow Palace and G1. Fwiw I loved his dreads-era work in the G1 where he pinned Omega and got creamed by Suzuki. Everything since he cut his hair (the US title stuff, the tag title stuff with Finlay) put me to sleep. The biker character whatever it is made him totally insufferable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 HEYOOO! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Pete said: "Chris Jericho squashed Peter Avalon..." sure, if that's what you want to call Avalon taking literally the ENTIRE match before Jericho hits his only offense of the entire thing and wins. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What makes a match a "squash", though? Is it the contents of the match? Or does the term just mean the participants are sufficiently far enough apart in the pecking order that the outcome isn't in doubt? I'm pretty sure Jake the Snake did the same thing with a jobber on one of the 80's WWF shows - the jobber beat him up all match, until a frustrated Jake hit the DDT and pinned him. I would call that match a squash, just an oddly structured one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 From what I watched because I fell asleep early and did not finish yet: 1) I think I will only comment on OC if he delivers something less than very good. I hope he has this title for 10 straight years. Big Bill is a really good big dude. I am very happy to see that. Enzo and Cass were such a huge part of early NXT. They were probably the most over act in the company and arguably the first most over act, of that makes sense. I saw NXT live at Asbury Park during the era and Kass stood out the most by doing some goofball singing thing during their intro. He just oozed charisma and stardom. Glad he got over his personal issues and has really found a good spot as a big menacing dude. I never once thought the match looked silly because of the size difference. As great as OC is, Big Bill deserves his shine, too, for being so game and knowing when to look like a beast and knowing when (and how) to show OC taking him off his game. 2) That Mox promo was a banger but it also (maybe just on my TV?) felt a little echoey being in that hallway. Maybe it was just me. But man, if it was echoey, just have him do that promo in a place where it isn’t going to have reverb. Either way, that feud rules. Maybe my favorite AEW feud to date. 3) Many participants in that ladder match need to revisit their life choices. Why the hell are people doing crazy shit for a shot at the second tier title? I mean, I get the kayfabe reason why. But damn I thought Sammy was going to really mess up his leg or neck on some bad fall the took when he messed up a ladder. Cool Hobbes got the win in front of his hometown crowd but man come up with something else beyond a ladder match to become the third entrant in a triple threat match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Greggulator said: Cool Hobbes got the win in front of his hometown crowd but man come up with something else beyond a ladder match to become the third entrant in a triple threat match. I agree with your overall point, but there's no triple threat match. Hobbes gets the winner of Joe/Wardlow next week on Dynamite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 They're building to the Best Friends turning on Orange and Danhausen aren't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: They're building to the Best Friends turning on Orange and Danhausen aren't they? Definitely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 8 hours ago, droneking said: “The biggest concern is holding the live crowd’s attention,” says Danielson. “It is very important to have statement moments scattered regularly throughout the match. Having just read two books by Cormac McCarthy, he’s a great study in minimalism when it comes to fiction. He has these incredible sentences that hit you right in the heart. We need those sprinkled throughout the match, and plot twists. Overall, it needs to be a compelling narrative where the live crowd feels it. I know, 100%, the matches before us are going to be outstanding. We’re going an hour, and we can’t have a stinker. This is the last match of the night.” Dear god this match is gonna have the darkest of endings, keep Birdie out of the building at all costs! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I mean huge respect for Hobbs in that moment though. He's a 300lb guy standing on the very tippy top of a shortass ladder reaching above his head trying to get the carabiner undone. Then his big ass stands on top of it posing for 20 seconds. I'd get dizzy on the 3rd rung. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian_Waffle Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Remember twenty years ago when Brock Lesnar clearly saw his opponent lying 2/3rds of the way towards the opposite corner, and with the whole world watching and every fan knowing he couldn't make that jump no matter how much of a genetic freak he is, and instead of doing the thing Mutoh has done countless times which is either pick up his opponent and move them closer to the chosen corner or, just as good, excitedly run to the opposite corner and signal to the crowd that the move will be more effective this way -- instead of doing anything like that, Brock Lesnar couldn't get his shit together and tried to do a shooting star press to the other side of the ring, ruining the main event, his mystique, and almost breaking his neck in the process? In a case as clear cut as that where still no audible was called to take 3 seconds to reassess things, I have little faith that good judgment and safe practice will prevail in junky six way ladder matches anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 That awkward shooting star press was Brock Lesnar’s top rope jump on Here Cones the Pain - THE MORE YOU KNOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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