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18 minutes ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:

New England is pretty much all rural/country living outside of the coast and the I-90 corridor running through Massachusetts, and even then you're a short drive from nowhere.  We got rednecks and hillbillies galore.  

Americans are pretty much the same everywhere, thing with New England is we got different weather and people been here longer so we've gotten a bit more sophisticated and such ahead of some of y'all, a bit more ahead of the curve if you weeel 😉

Yeah, I can corroborate that - I've 100% seen confederate flags out in the sticks near the CT/RI casinos. They did a Rampage out there in October that we drove up to, and Nyla tweeted something about "Rampage, Live from the fucking Hills Have Eyes" which, I can't even lie, got a huge pop outta me.

Edit: I got one for you I just remembered - I did a job once in New Hampshire, and the person met me outside in a t-shirt with a picture of a stork on it that said "EVERYTHING ELSE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU IN A FUCKIN' TRUCK" - doesn't get much more country than that, I don't think. 

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It's a fucking travesty that it took one of the Briscoes literally dying for them to make TV. Watching the main, it'd be easy to get the two guys mixed up and go "wait, which one's brother died?" Lethal was clearly a mess and had bawled his eyes out before he even went through the curtain while Mark was all BOY HOWDY REACH FOR THE SKY HYUK HYUK HYUK like nothing had even happened. Mark is a pro beyond pros to flip that switch and go out there for a match like that... and what a match it was.

For all the shit Lethal gets, he's way better than a ton of folks will ever give him credit for - you think guys like Mark and Ric F'N Flair would give him a position like this if he couldn't deliver the goods upon request? Come on.

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-Death, taxes, Ricky Starks being over as hell. Fun tag, and I understood the finish. Hopefully Starks gets his decisive blowoff so he can move on. He can't be in position to take the belt off of MJF in nine months if he doesn't get on a tear. Andretti was clearly the greenest guy in the ring, but I thought he did ok.

-It felt like Cage and Danielson just never got to that high gear. I did think Cage did a good job taking care of Danielson ie. making shit look horrifying without it actually doing damage. Takeshita coming out ruled, but I'm not sure why MJF would run from him. 

-Adam Cole's back? Don't care. Just not for me. If I thought he'd be coming back in the spot he belongs, which is as a mid card heel, it'd be one thing, but TK is gonna shove this guy down everyone's throat based on one rating he popped 2-3 years ago and the live audience being into his theme song. It sucks, but iiwii.

-JungleHook could be a thing if they want it to be. Two over young babyfaces kicking ass? Yeah, I'm into that. I'm just not sure that's the best use of either guy. Ethan Page has found a bit of a groove.

-The Gunn/Acclaimed segment wasn't for me. The tall Ass Boy just doesn't have the charisma his brother does, but the short Ass Boy isn't the worker Tall Ass is. It's a conundrum. 

-Matthews/Allin was the good professional wrestling. Buddy Matthews is good at this shit. I'd love to see a scenario where all the HOB guys are strapped up. Trios titles, Buddy with the AA, Malakai with the TNT or World. Brody as the enforcer. Get these guys some damn titles. I foresee a Joe title win next week. Unless Wardlow returns to cost Joe the match.

-Women's match was good. Ruby must really enjoy being injured, because it feels like she's always taking insane bumps. Nice to see her get a big win on tv.

-I'm tired of MJF. I just think there's better choices.

-I got emotional during the main event. I think there's something therapeutic about engaging in a loved one's passion after losing that loved one, like the night the Marlins played after Jose Fernandez passed or Hart/Benoit. What a wonderful evening.

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4 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said:

I understand if you're not from the East Coast but Slower Lower Delaware is very real. The outer, inner reaches of DelMarVa. Shorebillies.

I grew up in Virginia Beach - back in the day once you crossed over to the Eastern Shore you went very rural, especially as you drove more north. The route to Ocean City , Md is extremely rural, very similar to eastern North Carolina heading to the beach from Charlotte today. Annd yes chicken farming is part of it, having seens so many trucks carrying chickens. 

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The real MVP of the night was the dude in the front row wearing a t-shirt with a big ol' Louisville Cardinal on it in Lexington.

Junglehook sucks as a name for them. Can we reference Leo DiCaprio's old stable and re-name them the Pussy Posse?

I thought it was a nice touch that Mark Briscoe was announced as "one half of the ROH tag team champions".

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10 minutes ago, just drew said:

-It felt like Cage and Danielson just never got to that high gear. I did think Cage did a good job taking care of Danielson ie. making shit look horrifying without it actually doing damage. Takeshita coming out ruled, but I'm not sure why MJF would run from him. 

MJF ran because he's a coward when the chips are down, plus he knows the entire locker room hates him. Literally doesn't matter... he heard the crowd react because SOMEONE was making the save and he bugged out to save himself. 

10 minutes ago, just drew said:

-Matthews/Allin was the good professional wrestling. Buddy Matthews is good at this shit. I'd love to see a scenario where all the HOB guys are strapped up. Trios titles, Buddy with the AA, Malakai with the TNT or World. Brody as the enforcer. Get these guys some damn titles. I foresee a Joe title win next week. Unless Wardlow returns to cost Joe the match.

Good match, but annoying. Did Buddy even try to target Darby's obviously injured leg? Just the missed opportunity of all missed opportunities not to focus on that.

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I had a hard time getting into Buddy and Darby for some reason.  On the international feed they showed the Jay Briscoe tribute video and then it went to Buddy's entrance and X was very flustered on commentary, pitched like it was live a couple of times, and Buddy was in the ring just crouching in the corner with his mask on forever

The timecues were off a couple times with the international feed, I was kind of curious where some stuff actually went to commercial or PiP. Usually you can tell with how the match is being worked, but people were off their marks a few times it felt.  Buddy and Darby did some good stuff during the break, I wonder sometimes if things get changed on the fly when it comes to straight commercial vs PiP and how much dudes can adjust.  Like if they had something planned for PiP but they end up not getting it or getting told last second or not at all, etc etc

Also, on that tip, kudos to Jay Lethal the ultimate professional, but how often has Mark Briscoe worked live television?  If we're not counting PPV.....never?

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9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

IIRC, it was also said that Mark Briscoe had the highest IQ in the ROH locker room. 

I knew it all along that Mark Briscoe was actually a genius playing the role of a simpleton to throw his opponents off. 

I think the story was that the entire ROH locker room was given IQ tests and Mark had the third highest score, with Danielson at #1 and Nigel McGuinness at #2.  I've kind of viewed Mark in the way you do since hearing that.

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There just isn’t a lot there with Brian Cage, unfortunately. I think he might have found something if he’d have leaned a bit into the role of jacked up cocky dumb oaf who could still kill you but with a hint of comedy in “I’m The Juggernaut, bitch”-esk fashion, but there’s just nothing going on here as generic musclehead heel bro.

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2 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

There just isn’t a lot there with Brian Cage, unfortunately. I think he might have found something if he’d have leaned a bit into the role of jacked up cocky dumb oaf who could still kill you but with a hint of comedy in “I’m The Juggernaut, bitch”-esk fashion, but there’s just nothing going on here as generic musclehead heel bro.

I oddly really, really like this - I hesitate to make the comparison cause they're way different workers, but in terms of his placement, I'm picturing something like Dr Death with the Varsity Club. 

Actually, you could probably have done a lot worse than a 'Revenge of the Nerds' angle with Cage backing up the Varsity Blondes in the Ogre role against Best Friends or someone like that. 

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9 minutes ago, Marcel said:

I think the story was that the entire ROH locker room was given IQ tests

They were killing time on a tour of England and a few of them did it for a larf, according to one of the Brit mags. So, a test of questionable scientific validity taken under decidedly scientifically unrigorous conditions...

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2 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

I oddly really, really like this - I hesitate to make the comparison cause they're way different workers, but in terms of his placement, I'm picturing something like Dr Death with the Varsity Club. 

Actually, you could probably have done a lot worse than a 'Revenge of the Nerds' angle with Cage backing up the Varsity Blondes in the Ogre role against Best Friends or someone like that. 

Cage with the Varsity Blondes would be a pretty solid grouping honestly. Cage/Nese being the team with Woods the singles wrestler could work out just fine.

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9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

IIRC, it was also said that Mark Briscoe had the highest IQ in the ROH locker room. 

I knew it all along that Mark Briscoe was actually a genius playing the role of a simpleton to throw his opponents off. 

 

45 minutes ago, Marcel said:

I think the story was that the entire ROH locker room was given IQ tests and Mark had the third highest score, with Danielson at #1 and Nigel McGuinness at #2.  I've kind of viewed Mark in the way you do since hearing that.

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31 minutes ago, Goitre said:

They were killing time on a tour of England and a few of them did it for a larf, according to one of the Brit mags. So, a test of questionable scientific validity taken under decidedly scientifically unrigorous conditions...

That's right. It's covered in Bryan Danielson's must read autobiography as well.

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1 hour ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:

New England is pretty much all rural/country living outside of the coast and the I-90 corridor running through Massachusetts, and even then you're a short drive from nowhere.  We got rednecks and hillbillies galore.  

Americans are pretty much the same everywhere, thing with New England is we got different weather and people been here longer so we've gotten a bit more sophisticated and such ahead of some of y'all, a bit more ahead of the curve if you weeel 😉

I was going in my post "just look at Lovecraft for examples of how rural New England can go bad."

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Damn Dean. Get well soon.

Show was really good with plenty of great moments. Ricky Starks is fucking over, daddy. "WE WANT RICKY" chants? Hell yeah.

This is the exposure I've been wanting Hook to get. He totally was a rookie of the year last year. This year is his year to firmly show everyone he's here to fuck people up. I hope he has some Taz promos in him. Hearing Taz talk tough and run people down back in the day was awesome. Hearing the same from Hook would rule.

Darby is fucking crazy. I don't think I've been able to go any show with Darby on it and not say that. Darby vs Joe No Holds Barred? Holy shit. Someone is going to die.

I don't have much to say about the Danielson match, but it's all building to him losing to the Salt of the Earth so whatever. At least we get mostly banger matches leading up Danielson vs MJF. For a brief moment when MJF started talking about Danielson's next opponent, I really thought they actually got ZSJ. I'll take Timothy Thatcher as Danielson's next opponent though. The final opponent is going to have to be someone big.

Ruby has been on a tear since coming back. I thought her initial run leading up to getting a nose job was a little shaky. She really seems to have settled in and found herself since returning. 

Honestly, the only things I wasn't thrilled with was the WWE shit in the Ruby match where they hit someone's music to distract the heel and the family therapy segment. I just don't want that shit in AEW.

Main event had me teary eyed. Lethal's eyes were so puffy from crying and the dude was trying to hold it all in/back walking out to the ring and in the ring. Then Mark comes out and I couldn't help but smile. Good ol' Chicken. Lethal and Mark do some old fashioned rasslin' until it comes to the chopping and then Mark goes, verbatim, oh, it's going to be like that? And from that point on I think there was maybe this feeling of catharsis for Lethal because for a moment, he was able to stop feeling sad and able to at least have some fun and it was the Jay Briscoes brother of all people to make that happen. 

Jay and Mark live and lived for this shit. They were nothing but professionals in this sport from the time they were kids to now. It really is something else. They're some of the most pro wrestling motherfuckers people that have ever been in this business. Seeing Mark out there last night made me think that he'll be able to carry that legacy on without Jay just fine. It's always going to sting whenever I see Mark out there, but Mark's wrestling and antics almost say, "it's alright folks, everything's going to be alright, now watch this hillbilly kung fu."

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Also, not that it matters and it's been awhile since I've done karaoke, but it's because of the Briscoes and how awesome it used to be hearing them come out to Gimme Back My Bullets that I would sing that every time I went to karaoke. Never would have thought of that and would have had those good times without them.

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I'm running way behind here (litany of reasons including wife having Jury Duty, the cat throwing up over the rail down to the entrance way of our split level and various work stuff in dealing with Austria this morning) so no big write up. I made it to the Bobby Cruise intros but want to hang off on that until I have more time and don't have a meeting to not be red-eyed in upcoming.

My biggest takeaway, however, is that they did a great job with the video packages for the night: the Jay tribute, obviously; the insert promos for Toni and Ruby; Hayter talking up Emi to hype the match; the footage of Darby/Sting and Thatcher in Japan. It all added a lot without being disruptive and I'm impressed by the number of different ways they did it and introduced things.

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21 minutes ago, Craig H said:

Honestly, the only things I wasn't thrilled with was the WWE shit in the Ruby match where they hit someone's music to distract the heel and the family therapy segment. I just don't want that shit in AEW.

The only saving grace to the stupid finish is that Ruby used the distraction to hit her finisher, rather than Toni being so shocked that a wrestler is standing on the ramp of a wrestling show that she was totally incapacitated and lost to a roll up

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10 minutes ago, Matt D said:

My biggest takeaway, however, is that they did a great job with the video packages for the night: the Jay tribute, obviously; the insert promos for Toni and Ruby; Hayter talking up Emi to hype the match; the footage of Darby/Sting and Thatcher in Japan. It all added a lot without being disruptive and I'm impressed by the number of different ways they did it and introduced things.

I am perpetually amazed that I named my previous dog for Emi.

In 1998.

And here she is literally 25 years later... still wrestling, in the US, on a major network, and getting built up for title matches. Mind-boggling.

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