Dolphman 3000 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 52 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: Raider fans really losing their edge since Al died 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: Part of that reason being Namath played in the era when your standard NFL pass defense was “commit aggravated assault on either the QB and the WR or better yet both” Not to mention passing attacks mostly being "oh fuck it's third and long, just chuck it down there and hope our guy catches it." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Sheldon Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 5 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: Raider fans really losing their edge since Al died As soon as they figured out that the calls were coming from in the house, they gave up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Fritz Von Erich voice ON There's a conspiracy against our Cowboys. The NFL knows if things were fair, the Cowboys would win every year. The NFL is just like Jimmy Carter when he decided to deny my boy Kerry a chance to win an Olympic Gold Medal when he boycotted the Olympics. I have Five Boys and all Five of them will be World Champions. Jerry Jones made the worst mistake of his life firing a great coach like Tom Landry. If he just hired the next Tom Landry, the Cowboys could overcome the conspiracy. Fritz Von Erich voice OFF 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Vance Joseph is indeed going to return to Denver as DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 The Rams and Bobby Wagner have mutually agreed to part ways The Rams will take on a $7.5 million dead cap hit but still save $5 million against the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The Athletic is reporting that last off-season, Russ demanded Seattle HC Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider be fired. He was promptly traded to Denver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Russ is also getting a new QB coach Davis Webb who just retired, oh, and is only 28 (To be fair - the retired part was expected as that was part of the reason who got the start in the last game of the regular season. He had already been talking to the Giants about switching to coaching) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, RIPPA said: Russ is also getting a new QB coach Davis Webb who just retired, oh, and is only 28 (To be fair - the retired part was expected as that was part of the reason who got the start in the last game of the regular season. He had already been talking to the Giants about switching to coaching) So they gave him the start just so he could say he once started in the NFL? That's kinda cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: The Athletic is reporting that last off-season, Russ demanded Seattle HC Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider be fired. He was promptly traded to Denver. Even if it's not, this story sure sounds like something that could be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious C Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) It's weird how out of the relatively modern crop of upper echelon QBs, it's turning out that the Mannings are the only ones who aren't/weren't psycho. Well, them and Kurt Warner. Even Brees has done some boneheaded shit. Russ' whole Christian act was my tip-off for him around the time he got drafted. Edited February 24 by Contentious C 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, Contentious C said: It's weird how out of the relatively modern crop of upper echelon QBs, it's turning out that the Mannings are the only ones who aren't/weren't psycho. Well, them and Kurt Warner. Even Brees has done some boneheaded shit. Russ' whole Christian act was my tip-off for him around the time he got drafted. Didn’t Eli refuse to play for certain teams when he was drafted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, JLowe said: Didn’t Eli refuse to play for certain teams when he was drafted? And got two Super Bowl rings for doing so I would call that smart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, Contentious C said: It's weird how out of the relatively modern crop of upper echelon QBs, it's turning out that the Mannings are the only ones who aren't/weren't psycho. Well, them and Kurt Warner. Even Brees has done some boneheaded shit. Russ' whole Christian act was my tip-off for him around the time he got drafted. I feel like this is an opening for someone to go over Peyton's college sexual harassment accusations again. Kurt Warner seemed pretty solid though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 "psycho" is an extremely relative term when it comes to the subset of the population that is able and willing to play professional football 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: And got two Super Bowl rings for doing so I would call that smart Sure, and definitely doesn't meet the definition of "psycho" but more a reminder that even the Mannings had their moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Contentious C said: Russ' whole Christian act was my tip-off for him around the time he got drafted. Pardon my naivety, but how is being a Christian a tip-off that he’s a “psycho”. I don’t think trying to get his coach and gm fired is indicative of much except that Russ badly overestimated his value to the franchise. Power struggles between coaches and athletes are common in pro sports. Edited February 24 by Mario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Chiefs have promoted Matt Nagy to OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, Contentious C said: It's weird how out of the relatively modern crop of upper echelon QBs, it's turning out that the Mannings are the only ones who aren't/weren't psycho. You do not get good enough at playing football to be an upper echelon QB while being well-adjusted anywhere else in life. Has there ever been more than 10 above replacement level quarterbacks at any given time? That's why you get stories of Peyton Manning's mom taking pictures of all of his clothes and taping up examples of outfits so he can dress himself properly. These people have spent their entire lives trying to be a better quarterback, and neglected almost everything else. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, supremebve said: You do not get good enough at playing football to be an upper echelon QB while being well-adjusted anywhere else in life. Has there ever been more than 10 above replacement level quarterbacks at any given time? That's why you get stories of Peyton Manning's mom taking pictures of all of his clothes and taping up examples of outfits so he can dress himself properly. These people have spent their entire lives trying to be a better quarterback, and neglected almost everything else. Helicopter parents for blue-chip HS quarterbacks is a big thing in recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Mario said: Pardon my naivety, but how is being a Christian a tip-off that he’s a “psycho”. I don't think being a Christian makes you a psycho necessarily. But if you make it your public identity almost as if it's your wrestling character, that's a red flag. Anyone working that hard to make that their identity is generally pretty phony. Usually there's a reason for being that level of phony and that reason tends to be the psycho part. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 39 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: I don't think being a Christian makes you a psycho necessarily. But if you make it your public identity almost as if it's your wrestling character, that's a red flag. Anyone working that hard to make that their identity is generally pretty phony. Usually there's a reason for being that level of phony and that reason tends to be the psycho part. Yeah, I can see that. And Russell has always seemed a little out there. I’m a devout Catholic but I’m never been as pushy or public about as Wilson seems to be. I imagine most people at work only know I’m Catholic because I walked around with ashes on my forehead earlier this week (Ash Wednesday) or occasionally am out of the office because I’m over at a local Christian school. It’s not something I bring up much. I generally think your faith is a matter for you and God. No one needs it pushed on them. I apologize if I came off as touchy above. I tend to bristle at the idea being devout makes you nutty. On the other hand, lol, I’m Roman Catholic. Given the behavior of a lot of our clergy. It’s not always easy to argue against the idea. Edited February 25 by Mario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I think the big thing that makes Manning brothers look good now is how we they seem to have adjusted to a happy retirement. They do TV, but pretty much just fun silly shit without being on the road and having to wear suits and yada yada yada. They look sane now which helps make them look better in hindsight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) Edit: I threw out Andrew Luck as an example of a star quarterback who is relatively well-adjusted, but my wife immediately pointed out that he used to pretend he was a Confederate soldier and write long letters to his mom “from the battlefield”, so, yeah, I am withdrawing his candidacy. My mistake, Edited February 25 by Mario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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