EVA Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 Kliavkoff about to go down as the WOAT commissioner. Yes, he inherited a bleak situation, but the whole reason he was hired was his alleged acumen as an entertainment industry dealmaker…and dude can’t make a deal.
JLowe Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 FSU trustee is calling for an exit plan in the next 12 months! The ACC Grant of RIghts isn't set to expire until 2036. Clemson and Notre Dame watching very closely. North Carolina and maybe UVA sliding into B1G's DMs.
EVA Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 The B1G’s posturing today might be the funniest part. Big “Eric Andre shoots Hannibal Burress” meme energy. 1 2
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 Boy oh boy are the Feds hovering around the words that rhyme with shoint paving:
Brian Fowler Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, EVA said: Kliavkoff about to go down as the WOAT commissioner. Yes, he inherited a bleak situation, but the whole reason he was hired was his alleged acumen as an entertainment industry dealmaker…and dude can’t make a deal. Remember the "alliance" with the B1G and Big XII? Boy did he/his conference come out looking like a sucker.
Kevin Wilson Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 I think if they really dig deep enough they are going to find that a lot of college sports players bet on college sports. Maybe not always their own games, and hopefully not against their teams, but its just so easy for everyone to bet now, especially if someone already has an inclination to gamble. I'm not saying there are hundreds of players throwing games or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if nationally there are that many betting directly or indirectly on their own sport. 1
EVA Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 Cutting through the noise, here are some relevant updates this morning: Like I said yesterday, it’s VERY unlikely the AZ Board lets those two schools be split up. Which would be catastrophic. Also: Wilner is one of the most plugged in PAC-12 journos. And not coincidentally one of the conference’s biggest water carriers. If even he is saying we’re approaching d-day…it’s probably correct.
Tabe Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said: I think if they really dig deep enough they are going to find that a lot of college sports players bet on college sports. Maybe not always their own games, and hopefully not against their teams, but its just so easy for everyone to bet now, especially if someone already has an inclination to gamble. I'm not saying there are hundreds of players throwing games or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if nationally there are that many betting directly or indirectly on their own sport. Oh yeah. With betting apps and the like, I bet - haha - that there are hundreds of players doing it.
Brian Fowler Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 Current rumors are the B1G won't do anything unless Arizona jumps and triggers a PAC-12 armageddon by bringing at least one of Utah or ASU with them, but if they do, they've decided to only go after Washington and Oregon and leave out the Bay Area schools. Rumor is that, at least for a couple years, the PNW teams would get partial shares of the money, perhaps as low as half, but even that is likely equal to or greater than the PAC-12 TV money, and in a few years they'll get full shares. Arizona/Arizona State board of regents are meeting tonight so it'll probably move quick if anything is happening. Stanford, Cal, Wazoo, and Oregon State have got to be sweating bullets right now.
RIPPA Posted August 3, 2023 Author Posted August 3, 2023 I like how in Pete Thamel's story on ESPN it is painted as the Big Ten not wanting to be the reason the Pac 12 dies Quote Sources cautioned Thursday that remaining complications would need to be resolved for the schools to receive a Big Ten invitation. First, Big Ten leaders have been hesitant to completely wipe the Pac-12 off the map. The Big Ten's addition of USC and UCLA began the Pac-12's current spiral, which also has been fueled by Colorado's decision last week to go to the Big 12. But this development would be a fatal blow. The notion of calling checkmate is concerning to Big Ten leaders, sources told ESPN. Part of Petitti's job is to monitor as the future of the Pac-12 plays out. If schools such as Arizona, Arizona State and Utah leave for the Big 12, the move would become easier for Big Ten decision-makers. 1
Brian Fowler Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 Big XII has reportedly voted to invite Arizona. Board of Regents expected to vote tonight and everyone thinks they'll accept. Arizona State and Utah are still up in the air, but it's expected they'll decide in the next few days. B1G potential offer to Oregon and Washington is said to be about $35-40 million a year at first (offer still pending on what happens with the PAC-12) which is still a fairly big raise over the PAC-12, but maybe not enough to offset increased travel costs. But if their conference collapses, I don't expect a better option to crop up.
hammerva Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 Six months ago, the Big 12 was starting to look at the level of the MAC Conference with the defections. Now it is possible that the Big 12 is the #3 conference given how the Pac whatever number they are crumbling and the ACC is becoming more and more uncertain. And I am sure in about 4 months this post won't age well either given how crazy things are. 1
EVA Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 Welp! To be clear, every bit of this absolutely, positively, fucking sucks. It’s going to be terrible for the long-term health of CFB for the west coast schools to be splintered like this. CFB has always thrived on its intense regionality, and that…just…no longer exists on the pacific coast anymore. 2
RIPPA Posted August 4, 2023 Author Posted August 4, 2023 Clearly the Big 10 didn't feel THAT bad about killing the Pac 12
EVA Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 Death, taxes, and the B1G being absolutely full of shit. 1
Brian Fowler Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 I can't imagine the three remaining four corner schools not jumping to the Big XII now. So what's next for the remaining four? A merger with the Mountain West where they keep the more prestigious name and hope to make enough money to survive?
Brian Fowler Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 And Arizona State and Utah have reportedly applied for membership in the Big XII.
EVA Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) OSU and WSU have no recourse but the Mountain West. And I hate that for them. OSU just did a major renovation on a stadium they’re not going to be able to fill in 3 years. I can’t imagine Stanford and Cal holding their nose to associate with the likes of Fresno and Boise. They probably hold out to see if the B1G will take pity on them. If not, I think Stanford could probably survive as an independent for a while. But Cal…Cal probably de-emphasizes football and drops down a level in the long run. They didn’t care about CFB when it brought in P5 money, they’re definitely not supporting mid-major ball. Edited August 4, 2023 by EVA
Brian Fowler Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 The thing that continues to blow my mind about this new Big Ten is that they are going to have six teams in the eastern time zone, right in the central, four on Pacific time, and none in mountain. They are coast to coast but just skipping right over a quarter of the country.
Brian Fowler Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 And Utah voted to join the Big XII. Arizona board of regents still have to finalize the move for those two schools, but given that it recommended they go yesterday, that feels like a formality.
hammerva Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) So I believe we are now the Big 16? So much for not having divisions now. They may need a tournament unless they calm the fuck down Edited August 5, 2023 by hammerva
Brian Fowler Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, hammerva said: So I believe we are now the Big 16? So much for not having divisions now. They may need a tournament unless they calm the fuck down Remember a decade or so ago when everyone was making the same "the Big Ten has twelve teams and the Big XII has ten teams" joke? Feels like a couple lifetimes ago now.
hammerva Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) I doubt it will happen given the lack of success of both of them but just one year I want West Virginia to do a back to back with Houston and Arizona just to deal with the mind fuck of Mountaineer fans facing Dana Holgersen & Rich Rodriquez back to back. It is like the football version of Ghosts of a Christmas past EDIT: Never mind Rich Rod was already fired from Arizona a while ago. Edited August 5, 2023 by hammerva
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