Godfrey Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Wow, thanks Octo. Give it up for the young legend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Solomon on point, as per usual. https://youtu.be/1-ErMl1eiPo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) And I see we’re off to the races with his “I just choked him a little bit” remark. I think the funniest take I’ve seen is that he only choked a little bit in his UFC career or judging by his UFC performances choking someone a little bit was the best he could do. EDIT: Wrong thread! Edited April 1 by Craig H 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Craig H said: And I see we’re off to the races with his “I just choked him a little bit” remark. I think the funniest take I’ve seen is that he only choked a little bit in his UFC career or judging by his UFC performances choking someone a little bit was the best he could do. EDIT: Wrong thread! I guess choking can fit in the ratings thread. YABADABADOO WAKKA WAKKA HERES YOUR SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Bumping this old-ass thread because I just had a thought while posting in another thread about Ethan Page's release: As of January 2022, ROH TV was getting ~400K viewers across all of the various Sinclair stations it aired on. I also pulled a report just now where WOW was just doing 240K-330K in November/December '23. Am I insane, or do you guys think there might still be some value in old-school, straight-up broadcast syndication?? Even if it isn't first-run matches necessarily, these numbers kind of make me think that even running classic footage to drive eyes to the Turner shows (or, alternatively, classic ROH stuff to drive Honor Club subscriptions) might be a viable form of "advertising," in a sense. I guess really it all comes down to exclusivity in the new deal with WBD or wherever they land next, but food for thought, anyway. Maybe I'm outta the loop, but I was a little shocked by the size of these audiences for what are essentially infomercials. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 As long as those channels are still free over-the-air channels then yeah it would make a lot of sense to do it. I know people talked about an AEW C/D show but ROH would be great in this slot. I just don't think that's what they want to do since it feels clear to me they're using it for more content and also like a more important Dark. But if they wanted to then yeah do it. It's still crazy to me with all the changes in streaming and TV people still use antennas and over-the-air channels. I should know because I got one recently and while it's a pain to find the right position there's some fun stuff to be had. I could also go on about how easy it was to cut TV streaming altogether (was sweating for a day after dropping Youtube TV) but that's for another topic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I was very comfortable with Sinclair-era ROH (even if Sinclair themselves suck). Syndicated wrestling rules. Do it, Tony. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I was gonna post this in the gaming section, but thought it may get a bit more visibility here (and as far as this source is concerned, I don't know too much about them, so take with the requesite grain of salt): A small bit of info on what went wrong with the video game - a lot of this was probably just 'safe to assume' for anyone paying close enough attention, but the big news is probably that AEW was smart enough to structure the Yuke's deal so they own the game's engine, so they can go with a new dev for the sequel/next game: https://insider-gaming.com/aew-fight-forever-delayed-further-budget-issues/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Has anyone but Dave reported this? Quote Dave Meltzer says that WWE supplied misleading Collision Fast National numbers this past week for bad PR purposes. “Sunday I start getting texts from people who were just like: ‘did they really only do 122,000 viewers and 34,000 in 18-49 for Collision?’ This was a number supplied by WWE and for those of you who think like WWE isn’t concerned about AEW or it's a one-sided thing… AEW is in a war with WWE and you know, it’s a pro wrestling war. These pro wrestling wars are insidious, they are brutal. They’re both in a public relations war.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 On 6/7/2024 at 4:31 PM, odessasteps said: Has anyone but Dave reported this? First I'm seeing it, thank you for sharing. Gotta say, this is in no way surprising. Even if the gap is a little wider than it was in '20-22, I think this is to be expected with the TV deal coming up. Pure chicanery. I'll share a story: I've mentioned in other contexts, but in my teens/early 20s, I contracted with a company that did some odds and ends work for WWE. One such job, we were searching for a pretty basic house show truss/curtain type thing for use in (I want to say) China. Our WWE contact says "Yeah, nothing crazy - Vince just wants something for them to walk out of." Finally, I find one that seems to fit the bill, and walk the guy over - he says to me "Oh, I'd love to go with this one since we can't use pyro there, but they don't want us using the lasers because that's what our competition does... Well, they're not really our competition, at all. But that's what they do, so we're not going with that." Obviously at the time, he was referring to TNA (and had no clue I was a fan since I was trying to keep professional) but that exchange always stuck with me as a microcosm of the overall mentality there, down to the friggin' warehouse guys: "They're not really our competition, like at all, but..." 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) This week they're sending their #1 guy down to their C level trainee show in hopes they can beat AEW in the ratings for a week, since NXT has no competition but Dynamite does. I'd hoped the pettiness and bullshit would have left with Vince. Stupid me. Edited June 10 by Technico Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLETTI Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: This week they're sending their #1 guy down to their C level trainee show in hopes they can beat AEW in the ratings for a week, since NXT has no competition but Dynamite does. I'd hoped the pettiness and bullshit would have left with Vince. Stupid me. The punching down whenever possible by Trips and others is a huge turn off for me ever wanting to watch WWE again, despite a lot changing for the "better" recently. It's groan-worthy every time. Some of Vince's attitude towards any competition absolutely rubbed off on others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Well, you have to figure that NXT losing the Wednesday Night War to AEW rankles with Triple H in particular, because at that time NXT was his baby. He was down there every week assembling the locker room and going rah rah rantypants about "They're taking food off your table! They're taking food from your family!". He did everything he could to stack the deck in NXT's favour, and in many ways the 2019-2021 AEW roster was entirely composed of 'WWE rejects'*. And they still lost. * As in, Cody had washed out of WWE after they'd made him Stardust. Omega washed out of WWE developmental because Hugh Morrus didn't like him. The Bucks had WWE tryouts but got a preferable offer from ROH. Trent worked Superstars for a few years before being released. The number of indie wrestlers WWE signed in 2018 was very much an exercise in talent hoarding; Everyone who was left over, was someone they had looked at and rejected. Silver and Reynolds were jobbing to Heavy Machinery on RAW a month before they joined the Dark Order. The only early years wrestlers who were never on WWE's radar would presumably be Nyla (because in 2019 WWE was never signing a trans wrestler**), and Japanese indie wrestlers like Nakazawa, Riho & Shida, because WWE thought in terms of quotas, and already had enough Japanese wrestlers. ** Gabbie Tuft (fka Tyler Reks) doesn't count. She hadn't realised yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 7 minutes ago, AxB said: Well, you have to figure that NXT losing the Wednesday Night War to AEW rankles with Triple H in particular, because at that time NXT was his baby. He was down there every week assembling the locker room and going rah rah rantypants about "They're taking food off your table! They're taking food from your family!". He did everything he could to stack the deck in NXT's favour, and in many ways the 2019-2021 AEW roster was entirely composed of 'WWE rejects'*. And they still lost. * As in, Cody had washed out of WWE after they'd made him Stardust. Omega washed out of WWE developmental because Hugh Morrus didn't like him. The Bucks had WWE tryouts but got a preferable offer from ROH. Trent worked Superstars for a few years before being released. The number of indie wrestlers WWE signed in 2018 was very much an exercise in talent hoarding; Everyone who was left over, was someone they had looked at and rejected. Silver and Reynolds were jobbing to Heavy Machinery on RAW a month before they joined the Dark Order. The only early years wrestlers who were never on WWE's radar would presumably be Nyla (because in 2019 WWE was never signing a trans wrestler**), and Japanese indie wrestlers like Nakazawa, Riho & Shida, because WWE thought in terms of quotas, and already had enough Japanese wrestlers. ** Gabbie Tuft (fka Tyler Reks) doesn't count. She hadn't realised yet. Oh yeah, I'm sure Vince taking NXT away from him because he couldn't beat AEW still stings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 If they would have wanted to stack the deck, they should have put more recognizable names down there and not super Indy ROH talent. (Or that’s how I remember it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) 9 minutes ago, odessasteps said: If they would have wanted to stack the deck, they should have put more recognizable names down there and not super Indy ROH talent. (Or that’s how I remember it) Well you need to remember that NXT pivoted to "Papa Haitch's Super Indy" when Vince got pissed at ROH and other indies drafting off them on Mania weekends. So, in a real "we have Santino" move, they hired all the indy guys they could in order to out indy the indies, like why would you watch ROH, etc. anymore when all the indy darlings are here?" So putting super indy NXT against glorified indy AEW was just the natural progression. That was always the thing about Vince, he always had such Dunning-Kruger Effect self-confidence that he assumed anything he created would automatically be better than anything else you could watch elsewhere. I always laughed at the pretense for taking NXT away from HHH was, "he's not developing young stars." Like hey, no shit, you changed it from developmental to your in-house anti-ROH on a whim yourself. Edited June 10 by Technico Support 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Thankfully, I’m mostly buried the memory of stuff like NXT 2.0 and much of what happened since then. For all I know, Elvion could be making up 95% of the names when he recaps NXT and I wouldn’t know the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Just now, odessasteps said: Thankfully, I’m mostly buried the memory of stuff like NXT 2.0 and much of what happened since then. For all I know, Elvion could be making up 95% of the names when he recaps NXT and I wouldn’t know the difference. From what I gather just listening to podcasts, a LOT of names have multiple unnecessary Y's in them. Shawn is from the Wyld Stallyns school of vowel substitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 And a victim of the weird NXT name generator where they don’t sound like the names of real human beings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 The only person that reported the 122,000 fast national number for Collision was Alfred Konuwa. So make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 19 hours ago, odessasteps said: If they would have wanted to stack the deck, they should have put more recognizable names down there and not super Indy ROH talent. (Or that’s how I remember it) They did. Sent Balor and Charlotte back down and put the belts on them in 2020. Also sent Sasha and Bayley for a briefer run, during which a Sasha/Iyo match was one of the few times NXT beat AEW head-to-head in the ratings IIRC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Some people are about to spend their Friday trying to figure out how to say that the last Dynamite ratings are clearly wrong (502k on the 19th) even if people keep confirming the number isn’t an error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Super bizarre outlier rating. Definitely not what you want to see when you’re trying to close a deal, though. Better bounce back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Next week on Dynamite, The Young Bucks wrestle Chris Jericho for the right to take credit for the ratings increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Is this what booking for sickos looks like? In all seriousness, there are some things that could make it just an outlier. It was 6/19. It's a holiday for a lot of people now. There were cookouts, my family went to the beach, it's been super hot on the east coast all week. Also, the Kendrick Lamar concert was our primary viewing on that night. I'm guessing it did crazy numbers streaming. It was trending on social media for hours. If the number is just as bad next week then it's a real issue but right now I'm saying all of that factored in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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