Dolphman 3000 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: Has Jeff Hardy ever had a good non-gimmick match? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 ^ Great call. Jeff was on fire in 07/08 with great matches almost weekly. the Hardyz/MNM series, the Umaga IC title feud, matches with Orton, Cena, Jericho, that Shawn match, and some of my absolute favorites with Triple H. Speaking to HHH TV worker matches and the post-injury years, I always loved his work with Maven as far as top guy vs underdog face matches, and the Dec 03 RAW match with Shawn is maybe my all time favorite match of theirs together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldcupfever Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 hours ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: The question would be then, who was? Looking over the old DVDVR 500s - Benoit tops most of them. I think, while hindsight is extremely difficult in this instance, that appears largely on reputation from years earlier. Eddy was injured for a large chunk of 2000. Juventud, wow, I'll need to reevaluate, but I doubt anything he was doing in WCW 2000 made that seem realistic. Finlay was working garbage matches with Brian Knobbs. Has Jeff Hardy ever had a good non-gimmick match? Matt Hardy was solid but bland at the time. Regal was working sporadically. Daniels was probably a couple years off seriously contending here. .....and Joey Abs. I definitely thought Joey Abs and Sick Boy were the future of the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, worldcupfever said: I definitely thought Joey Abs and Sick Boy were the future of the business. In 1992 who would have believed Vinnie Vegas and Diamond Dallas Page would be future world champions? Who knows...if the rumors were true and Sick Boy/Scott Vick came back as Katie's brother out for vengeance, he could've had a main event run. The biz is weird like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldcupfever Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Infinit said: In 1992 who would have believed Vinnie Vegas and Diamond Dallas Page would be future world champions? Who knows...if the rumors were true and Sick Boy/Scott Vick came back as Katie's brother out for vengeance, he could've had a main event run. The biz is weird like that. I didn't realize until just now how old he was when he got on TV. If he had been ten years younger, they probably could have done a lot more with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The Vice Documentary on Vince Mcmahon goes into details about his sex scandal, the two-hour documentary airs on Dec 13th at 9 PM EST. HBO Real Sports will run their own Vince Mcmahon story after. When next spring arrives, an unauthorized book about Vince Mcmahon will be published. If any further details come out, Vince may have to let go of WWE ownership and sell his shares to someone or some people already in the company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Infinit said: In 1992 who would have believed Vinnie Vegas and Diamond Dallas Page would be future world champions? Who knows...if the rumors were true and Sick Boy/Scott Vick came back as Katie's brother out for vengeance, he could've had a main event run. The biz is weird like that. I had my Schivone “that’ll put butts in seats” moment with JBL. I thought no one would ever buy Bradshaw in that role and definitely couldn’t see him as a multiple world champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Ultimo Necro said: I had my Schivone “that’ll put butts in seats” moment with JBL. I thought no one would ever buy Bradshaw in that role and definitely couldn’t see him as a multiple world champion. I mean Prichard and some of the other southern based guys in creative always saw him as the next Stan Hansen. They wouldn't let him do anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 23 hours ago, Dolphman 3000 said: JR really was in rare form here. Miss that JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnatural Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Willow approved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriusvig Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Red King said: The Vice Documentary on Vince Mcmahon goes into details about his sex scandal, the two-hour documentary airs on Dec 13th at 9 PM EST. HBO Real Sports will run their own Vince Mcmahon story after. When next spring arrives, an unauthorized book about Vince Mcmahon will be published. If any further details come out, Vince may have to let go of WWE ownership and sell his shares to someone or some people already in the company. Was the Vice doc something that WWE helped produce? I swear there was something coming out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnatural Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Le Champion unmasked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, notoriusvig said: Was the Vice doc something that WWE helped produce? I swear there was something coming out like that. I believe that one was the Bill Simmons doc which had WWE involvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, notoriusvig said: Was the Vice doc something that WWE helped produce? I swear there was something coming out like that. That was a Netflix one with Bill Simmons, which may or may not still be in production. EDIT: Nevermind. Beaten to it. Edited November 18, 2022 by Peck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Tajiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Hayabusa said: Le Champion unmasked The Kevin Dunn technique for unmasking. Garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 AEW loves to end pay per views with an angle or surprise. Would anyone be shocked if MJF or Moxley wins and Punk comes out to confront them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pedro said: AEW loves to end pay per views with an angle or surprise. Would anyone be shocked if MJF or Moxley wins and Punk comes out to confront them? Yes. Quite shocked, actually. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Pedro said: AEW loves to end pay per views with an angle or surprise. Would anyone be shocked if MJF or Moxley wins and Punk comes out to confront them? 30 minutes ago, Log said: Yes. Quite shocked, actually. I can't see CM Punk back in AEW. I'd be very shocked. Edited November 18, 2022 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Punk is injured, out for 9 months as of 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goitre Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, The Natural said: I can't see CM Punk back in AEW. I'd be very shocked. Did you expect to see Bret working for Vince again after the double-cross? Pro-wrestling has taught me there's no such word as "never", OED be damned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Anyone else not feeling AEW or WWE right now? RAW has a staleness now again.. AEW feels really directionless. Bloodline and Zayn are entertaining i suppose 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Anyone else not feeling AEW or WWE right now? RAW has a staleness now again.. AEW feels really directionless. Bloodline and Zayn are entertaining i suppose 411Mania just posted ticket figures for upcoming AEW and WWE shows, and outside of Pay Per Views, they're both averaging 2000-4000 per show Both brands lost all their goodwill - I think HHH has a chance to regain it, but Vince dismantled a ton of what he had in place over the last year and it's going to take a lot of time AEW Dynamite in Chicago next week only has around 5000 tickets out - I wouldn't put it past Tony to have Punk show up at the PPV to goose tickets for Chicago Edited November 18, 2022 by Dolphman 3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: 411Mania just posted ticket figures for upcoming AEW and WWE shows, and outside of Pay Per Views, they're both averaging 2000-4000 per show Both brands lost all their goodwill - I think HHH has a chance to regain it, but Vince dismantled a ton of what he had in place over the last year and it's going to take a lot of time AEW Dynamite in Chicago next week only has around 5000 tickets out - I wouldn't put it past Tony to have Punk show up at the PPV to goose tickets for Chicago Well Meltzer claimed (or whomever does his daily updates did) that the Raw I attended recently was in the low 4,000 range. Literally every ticket except for one section of the upper deck was sold and filled. It’s a 9,000 seat arena. So clearly someone’s math was off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, LF2 said: Well Meltzer claimed (or whomever does his daily updates did) that the Raw I attended recently was in the low 4,000 range. Literally every ticket except for one section of the upper deck was sold and filled. It’s a 9,000 seat arena. So clearly someone’s math was off. Comps, bruh - even AEW at this point has seat fillers at every televised event 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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