Jrag
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Segment lowlight: Super sad Tony Schiavone.
Segment highlight: Super stressed Chris Hero.
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Pretty much guaranteed Punk chants every time the Bucks are in the ring for the next few months. Brilliant move guys.
The internet can fight over how close Punk’s version of events was to the footage. Pretty close I would say, but damn that line about Tony not running a real business hits a little different after watching that disaster of a segment.
Such a nothing of a fight really in the context of a pro wrestling locker room. Would love to see how it compares to, say, the multiple times Sammy Guevara has been punched backstage over the last few years.
Maybe Drew gets a few good lines of material out of this. Silver lining.
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They sucked me back in temporarily with how great that WM main event was.
Count me in the group that loved that opening segment. Too long yes, but Rock clearly wanted to hit a few story beats and decided the only way he was going to be able to get there was to let the crowd wear themselves out. They broke the 3 million mark so I suppose he was right to slow play it.
Anyways, I loved it because Rock was doing some very off standard wrestling stuff. Asking to hold the belt didn’t lead to the usual wrestling result. He reacted to holding the belt how a billionaire would react to something he can’t buy. Always wanting more, I imagine, isn’t all that fulfilling, but it definitely makes for an intriguing heel character trait.
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Greg you must have blacked out the MJF/Punk promos then because that is actually what you are looking for.
The Punk/Kingston and Punk/Mox stuff was more in the shooty “2nd best John, 3rd best Kingston” promo battle style. MJF/Punk had like a month straight of just lights out stuff. Be My Valentine etc etc.
I actually really loved this one that may have been YouTube only? Not sure:
https://youtu.be/ez7rTA3Sexo?si=oIngm5O3Oe0BiWEN
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Guess I will record raw for the first time in about 8 years.
I hope this run is magic while it lasts. Regardless, reading the haters cry about it will be entertaining enough.
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Darby is a great wrestler who I sometimes feel guilty watching. If he’s not going to tone it down for himself then maybe do it for someone else. Guy is a top tier pro wrestler who makes every bump look insane. He doesn’t actually need stuff like the stair bump.
Only watched the things I was interested in which were all great. Christian is on one hell of a run, Danielson/ZSJ was extremely my shit and PUT THE BELT ON SWERVE!
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OC is so far beyond the schtick at this point. Haven’t watched it all yet, but that was a great main event. Was hoping OC would pull it out. Wrestler of the year so far imo.
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Welp pretty safe to assume Collision will not be retaining its own feel and structure.
Hope they still feature FTR and HoB on 2 hour rampage long term, but I’m not holding my breath
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4 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:
I can't follow all of this... There's so many conflicting reports. Wrestling media is terrible Lol.
The dirt sheets are essentially Fox News, but instead of being fed lines and stories by creeps from the Federalist Society it’s just, like, Brandon Cutler and Ace Steel.
New rules for the dirt sheets if I was in charge.
1. You still get to report 2nd and 3rd hand rumors because that can be fun, but you are not allowed to do it in a somber and/or serious tone.
2. If you break rule #1 you must be placed in an old timey stockade every time you get something completely wrong. 5 hour minimum. Hours added depending on how dumb it is. Brody King punched a wall and broke his hand oh actually he just kicked a trash can? 4 hours. Believing 5 people telling a story when none of them saw it first hand = 5 sources? 8 hours.
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Just now, (BP) said:
Nobody has backstage fighting bonafides like Edge. That one Wrestlemania I watched him brawl with Randy back there for what must’ve been seven hours.
I had successfully blocked that from my memory and now it’s back. Thanks.
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This Punk AEW run has somehow been wildly underrated by the IWC as a whole. Not as much here. It is sort of wild to me that people can’t separate on screen and off screen to such a degree that it is hampering their enjoyment of an all time great pro wrestler revitalizing his career. I guess Punk can’t separate on screen and off screen either so hey I get how we got here.
Hope it’s not over, but if it is that was a hell of a way to go out against Joe at Wembley. Incredibly fun match with an incredible huge crowd and they delivered in a way some were doubting if they still could.
And this run of Collision has been my favorite pro wrestling tv show in ages. I do not think they will be able to replicate it once/if he is gone. I hope they try.
I’m not the type to put a true ranking out of my top 10 AEW matches ever or anything, but for my money that Punk/Kingston sprint is as good any wrestling match this company has put together. The MJF/Punk feud made Max in a way his other feuds with more established stars didn’t or couldn’t.Does his lack of athleticism sometimes get in the way of what he is trying to do? Sure. Are the shooty promo battles not for everybody? Definitely. But Punk’s peaks as a performer are, in my opinion, almost unmatched in all of wrestling history. Punk/Joe, Punk/Cena, Punk/MJF.
There is a lot of “tarnished his legacy” talk out there, but I don’t think we will look back on this run with that view. This is his legacy. Egocentric, erratic and GREAT.
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19 minutes ago, Craig H said:
Suspending Punk and Perry pending an investigation is fucking pointless. TK is in gorilla. There's a whole bunch of people in gorilla. No investigation is needed.
I mean, I used to think the idea of Wrestler's Court was fucking dumb, but damn, it's almost needed at this point. An investigation for what? Perry being a dumb cunt and him and Punk getting into a fight? Oh no. Boo hoo. I can't imagine how many times Jericho would have been suspended in WWE for fighting with damn near anyone. It's TK's company and he can run it however he wants, but constantly suspending dudes for arbitrary amounts of time to "investigate" is fucking dumb. You know what happened. There's nothing to investigate.
Agree with this 100%. If Tony thinks The Chicago All Out crowd is going to accept a vague suspension excuse for Punk not being there after they have watched AEW treat the entire PPV like an afterthought for the last month….. whew this is going to be a interesting crowd this weekend.
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What a show. More thoughts to come, but Punk/Joe was my match of the night. Crowd was on fire. Loved the ending. Punk resorting to biting Joe after being all sanctimonious with Ricky a few weeks back was perfect.
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17 minutes ago, Log said:
Eh...that's making a pretty Dolphman-esque leap there.
You may be right, and just to clarify I’m not saying he is intentionally doing anything of the sort just that the outcome has a high potential to be the same as if he was.
Overall I did like this show quite a bit even if my main talking point is a negative. Other cool things about this show. Ospreay calling out Danielson and Punk, MJF sit down and Renee having like 10 segments.
Renee is one of the most important signings they have made.
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36 minutes ago, J.T. said:
It looks like the reason Fox cannot make the show is because he has had a death in his family. That sucks. Booking is still mindboggling, but I can respect him putting family first.
Tony obviously doesn’t see it this way, but if this is true he essentially punished the guy for choosing his family over All In. It might not be meant as a punishment, only as a work around for the big show, but when face AR Fox goes back to one random Rampage match every other month because Tony cut the legs out his story and lost him in the shuffle it will pretty much have that effect.
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1 hour ago, JLowe said:
Mox-Fenix was good but no one should kick out of a super Death Rider (or whatever that's called), the Fighting Spirit style doesn't work quite as well when one guy is getting his ass kicked for 5 minutes and then pops up and hits a damned superkick. I'm a big fan of Fenix but he should not be hanging with Mox like that.
I knew that kick out was coming with those 2 guys in the ring. Fenix always kicks out of shit he shouldn’t and Mox never protects his stuff like he should.
Fenix kicking out of ridiculous things is such a flaw that it really ruins his matches for me. Very much not a fan of underdog faces kicking out of stuff that would finish dudes higher up the card.
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Whatever the circumstances, I feel bad for Swerve and AR Fox because they were building something. Tony can’t get out of his own way sometimes. It really does look like he just completely changed the plan because Fox couldn’t make this one show. So dumb.
Swerve once again having to overcome the worst of Tony’s start/stop booking. That entire segment gave me whiplash. One of like 3 matches with good build I guess now we are down to 2.
Rest of the show was good. Ospreay is a better promo than I thought he was. Really sold himself and that match.
Eddie as usual the highlight of the show. Great moment there with Renee. Rick Knox getting rocked was also fun.
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https://twitter.com/tde_gif/status/1693058515227554272?s=20
Nigel with the perfect follow up
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That one dude from the Iron Savages announcing to the whole world that he eats ass was clearly the highlight of the show.
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Push Bucks/FTR to All Out would be the cleanest option and give people a reason to get hyped for that show.
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Season finale of Warrior was probably the 2nd best episode of the shows 3 season run. Really hoping we get a season 4 to finish the story because they left it in a very interesting place.
Since no one here besides me is watching it, here is the season 1 trailer:
I know some of you would love this shit and we need a season 4. Gotta give it the hard sell.
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Yeah that was not my type of show. The opener was good, but Yuta shaking off all those big shots at the end both before and after the roll up really stuck out like a sore thumb. I guess that happens when you are in the ring with one of the best sellers in the business. OC grabbing his own pants on the roll up was a nice touch though.
Can’t get behind the sloppy builds to these multi man matches. Can’t get behind the idea of Jericho playing the “face” in this match somehow after choosing to side with Callis? Just so dumb.
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1 hour ago, Teflon Turtle said:
Favorite AEW promo...probably the first time MJF told the story about the antisemitism he faced growing up.
From the 2/23/2022 Dynamite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAf6epYTUAM&t=7s.
An awful lot of that promo - minus the football - hit very close to home for me. It was raw, emotional, and it riveted me to the spot. At least for me personally, it had some interesting ramifications. And maybe it's time to get this out of the way: MJF has leaned so hard in to the heel shtick on TV, at public appearances, etc., that when he pulls back the curtain on himself (or if he wants to make it look like that's what he's doing), it still means something. He gets that where a lot of wrestlers don't.
So when he delivered that promo, I bought in. I had to ask myself: should I, or any other Jewish wrestling fan for that matter, really continue to boo this man? I realize that out of character MJF will speak up against antisemitism and racism, but we're supposed to suspend disbelief as fans...cheer the faces, boo the heels. This promo blurred the lines for me in a way I didn't really have to reconcile with before. MJF succeeded in making me feel something using wrestling as the medium, which is the whole point of the enterprise. Now of course, MJF went back to despicable heel tactics shortly after he cut that promo. But: it showed what MJF's path towards a face turn would be, and served as a reminder of the fact that there's a real person under the character, which a lot of wrestling fans have forgotten in the social media era.
Even without what it meant to me personally, I feel it to be a very effective promo. It gave that feud deep personal stakes that most feuds don't get to any longer. MJF clearly and emotionally explained why that match should matter.
This and the follow up segment with a great Punk promo and both of them wearing white leading to Max busting Punk open. Doesn’t get better than those 2 segments.
Max’s fire me promo is up there as well. I know that one was divisive at the time, but there is a point right around the 4:15 mark of the below video where it stops being a Punk tribute act and you catch a glimpse of what MJF would be like as a fired up babyface. Crowd couldn’t help but to cheer when he morphs into maniac Ric Flair for a second. “I’m the only guy who makes you feel and, unlike all those boys, I don’t have to do a bunch of bullshit to get you there” is a great line.
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He seemingly can create The Chaos without actually doing much of anything. Like a minor hangman jab post show where he flubbed the punch line is enough to set the Reddit crowd on fire. Wrestling fans are so unhinged. Any backstage crumb or bit of drama is blown 10x out of proportion. These dudes are getting so mad that it’s not enough that they don’t enjoy Punk they would prefer that you don’t enjoy him either.
Honestly not liking Punk is one thing, but it seems a bit crazy to both blame Punk for every person getting tossed out of Collision (probably true) and also give him no credit for the, in my mind, amazing on screen product we are getting every week. To act like if Punk left the company tomorrow Collision would still be this great show that is different from everything else doesn’t track at all. It would be Rampage version 2 inside of 3 months.Part of the reason Collision is working so well is because prior to it Tony had underutilized Starks, White, Samoa Joe, HoB and FTR on Dynamite in a truly head scratching way. How did we go so long without an AEW tag title defense? Why was there no consistent story provided for the HoB outside of the throwaway bits before Hart turned?
I guess the answer is Tony is an inconsistent booker, but could it also be that some of those guys aren’t super close with the EVPs? I don’t know. If that 2nd part is true though and holds enough weight to effect the on screen product to such a degree then this company needs Punk more than I realized a few months ago!
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AEW TV - 4/10 - 4/16/2024 - Julia Hart of (Real) Glass
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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Yeah I don’t get this. The crowd cheering for a (mild, lame, nothing) pull apart brawl on a wrestling show is bad because we’re so far through the 4th wall that they should be better?
Punk can be in the wrong in real life, I guess, although again this doesn’t seem all that serious. Having heels presenting it on a wrestling tv show? How many wires are they trying to cross in the fans minds here? The Punk chants in arena should have been expected and the confusion in arena should hopefully give a few people a wake up call.