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  1. Pittsburgh
    Houston
    New England
    New Orleans
    Jacksonville
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    Cincinnati
    Seattle
    Green Bay
    Philadelphia
    San Francisco
    Denver
    Kansas City
    Washington
    Miami

    Tiebreaker #1: More receiving yards, Tyreek Hill or Stefon Diggs
    Hill

    Tiebreaker #2: total points in Rams/49ers
    32

    Tiebreaker #3: Baker Mayfield passing yards vs Carolina
    325

  2. Cleveland
    Dallas
    Baltimore
    Houston
    Buffalo
    LA Rams
    San Francisco
    Philadelphia
    Tampa Bay
    Jacksonville
    Chicago
    Indianapolis
    Seattle
    Denver
    Kansas City
    Minnesota

    Tiebreaker #1: winning margin in Mia/Bal
    2

    Tiebreaker #2: Brock Purdy passing yards vs Wsh
    195

    Tiebreaker #3: Justin Jefferson receiving yards vs GB
    155


  3. LA Rams
    Cincinnati
    Buffalo
    NY Jets
    Seattle
    Indianapolis
    Cleveland
    Green Bay
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    Arizona
    Miami
    Denver
    Kansas City
    Philadelphia
    San Francisco

     
    Tiebreaker #1: Deebo Samuel receiving yards vs Baltimore
    75

    Tiebreaker #2: total points in Dal/Mia
    95

    Tiebreaker #3: Jared Goff completions vs Minnesota
    25

  4. LA Chargers
    Cincinnati
    Indianapolis
    Detroit
    Miami
    Kansas City
    Cleveland
    Houston
    New Orleans
    Atlanta
    Tampa Bay
    San Francisco
    LA Rams
    Dallas
    Baltimore
    Philadelphia 

    Tiebreaker #1: More passing yards, Dak Prescott or Josh Allen
    Dak

    Tiebreaker #2: total points in Ravens-Jaguars
    57

    Tiebreaker #3: Matthew Stafford passing yards vs Washington
    325

  5. Pittsburgh
    Houston
    New Orleans
    Baltimore
    Indianapolis
    Cleveland
    Detroit
    Atlanta
    San Francisco
    Minnesota
    Kansas City
    Denver
    Dallas
    Green Bay
    Miami

    Tiebreaker #1: total points in Eagles/Cowboys
    55

    Tiebreaker #2: John Allen passing TDs vs Kansas City
    125

    Tiebreaker #3: Tyreek Hill receiving yards vs Tennessee
    185

  6. Dallas
    Atlanta
    Houston
    LA Chargers
    Detroit
    Pittsburgh
    Tennessee
    Miami
    Tampa Bay
    Cleveland
    Philadelphia
    Kansas City
    Jacksonville

    Tiebreaker #1: Christian McCaffrey rushing + receiving yards vs Phi
    105

    Tiebreaker #2: total interceptions thrown in Atl/NYJ
    4

    Tiebreaker #3: Jared Goff passing yards vs NO
    225

  7. 14 hours ago, Tabe said:

    5 teams in 7 years. 6 in 8 now that he's signed with Cincy. 4 years under 100 ERA+ as a reliever, which is incredibly bad. But was good last year and he has had 2 other good years. 

    $8m is a lot to pay for 60 innings when there's a more than 50% chance those 60 innings will suck. 

    Don't forget that 51% fly ball rate.  In the Great America Smallpark.  That could get ugly early.

    At least with the Nick Martinez signing, the Reds get more of a ground ball guy.  Not that I'd want him starting, but every team gobbling up pitchers so far have done some dicey things.  I guess it's chic or something.

     

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  8. Detroit
    Dallas
    San Francisco
    Miami
    Houston
    Pittsburgh
    Tennessee
    Atlanta
    Indianapolis
    NY Giants
    Cleveland
    Arizona
    Philadelphia
    Kansas City
    Baltimore
    Minnesota


    Tiebreaker #1: Jalen Hurts rushing yards vs Buf
    75

    Tiebreaker #2: total points in Chi/Min
    49

    Tiebreaker #3: Trevor Lawrence passing yards vs Houston
    356

  9. Baltimore
    Jacksonville
    LA Chargers
    Washington
    Miami
    Houston
    Detroit
    Pittsburgh
    Dallas
    San Francisco
    Buffalo
    Seattle
    Denver
    Kansas City

    Tiebreaker #1: Travis Kelce receiving yards vs Phi
    135

    Tiebreaker #2: Josh Allen rushing yards vs NYJ
    89

    Tiebreaker #3: total points in Min/Den
    47

  10. Chicago
    Indianapolis
    Pittsburgh
    Minnesota
    Cincinnati
    Baltimore
    Tennessee
    Jacksonville
    Detroit
    Atlanta
    Seattle
    Dallas
    NY Jets
    Buffalo

    Tiebreaker #1: winning margin in Cle/Bal
    5

    Tiebreaker #2: Jared Goff passing yards vs Chargers
    255

    Tiebreaker #3: total punts in Jets/Raiders
    9

  11. Pittsburgh
    Kansas City
    LA Rams
    New England
    Houston
    Cleveland
    New Orleans
    Baltimore
    Atlanta
    Carolina
    NY Giants
    Philadelphia
    Cincinnati
    LA Chargers
     

    Tiebreaker #1: More passing yards, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow
    Burrow

    Tiebreaker #2: D'Andre Swift rushing yards vs Dallas
    125

    Tiebreaker #3: Total points in Sea/Bal
    47

  12. Buffalo
    NY Jets
    Pittsburgh
    Houston
    Miami
    Atlanta
    Minnesota
    Dallas
    Philadelphia
    New Orleans
    Cleveland
    Kansas City
    San Francisco
    Baltimore
    LA Chargers
    Detroit

    Tiebreaker #1: Jared Goff passing yards vs Las Vegas
    325

    Tiebreaker #2: total points in Cin/SF
    47

    Tiebreaker #3: Tyreek Hill receiving yards vs NE
    159

  13. 5 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

    another modern manager who might be one successful job away from getting into the conversation for the HOF? Joe Maddon. But the Angels thing probably moved him away from the Hall so he'd need his equivalent to a Jim Leyland run at the very least

    as for how modern managers are evaluated, maybe there'll be more value to sticking around and having success in an era where there's less managerial control. But I'm of the POV that if certain things become less important for managers, the stuff that managers have to do becomes more important. So keeping clubhouses running smoothly is more important now since that's one thing that can't really be micromanaged

    Yeah.  Maddon was on the path with the Cubs WS win.  Then the Cubs run went sideways.  No prob!  Dusty's Chicago managerial run went up in flames too!  A fella can rebound.  The the Angels run happened and he now is just Billy Martin without the bar fights.  Another run with a team he can turn around gets him into consideration.  Like if he could make Colorado a non-sinkhole then he clearly would be John McGraw 2.0 like he seems to think he is.

    As to modern managers, I feel you're on the right track.  It's probably going to completely come down to evaluating guys who have really long tenures - regardless of records - and tons of post-season appearances since even writers are starting to grasp the post-season is a crapshoot.  That said, I sort of feel there will be a long stretch after the wave of Francona, Dusty, Bochy before we see a modern manager put in.

     

  14. 1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:

    Cito is probably really hindered by not getting any jobs aside from Toronto.

    I also forgot about the second Cito stint

    Yeah.  Not getting a second real gig after the Jays went up in flames THEN his second Jays stint being bad does not put him in any kind of good light.  

    Like Tabe said, there's really nothing there with Cito. 

    Two rings?  Ralph Houk has that and is not in.  And Cito doesn't have the win totals to pump his record.

    He was just a guy at the right place at the right time who was given an All Star team and was smart enough to not screw it up.  Good for him and Jays fans.  The flags fly forever.  That doesn't make you a HOFer though.

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  15. 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

    Would Bochy have been eligible for this ballot if he was stayed retired? (He last managed the Giants in 2019 and I don’t know if the cutoff was 2018 or 2019)

    Mike Scioscia seems like a guy who might need another good stint to get over the hump.

    Dave Roberts is a few years away from having an interesting HOF case as a manager since he managed teams that won a lot but some people see him as a figurehead for the system.

    Rippa and I had to look up Scioscia.  He is just outside the cutoff for this ballot.  So Bochy would also be after the cutoff.  

    And yeah.  It FEELS like Scioscia needs a more - like another title for sure, or 5 or so more years as manager.  I'm not in love with him as a candidate but you could lump him with Leyland, Piniella and Davey Johnson and he wouldn't feel that out of place.

    I have no feel for Dave Roberts at all.  He's just a guy with a title and there are lots of them not in the Hall.  But I also have no feel for how modern managers are going to be evaluated after Francona, Dusty and Bochy get in.

  16. Yeah.  This is sort of a weak crop.  Clearly it's designed to put in Joe West who...well, horrible ump but he lasted forever.  I guess they can put something on his plaque about not being QUITE as terrible as Angel Hernandez.  Shrug.

    (Funny, Rippa and I were chatting about the list and since neither of us can remember ANYTHING about Ed Montague other than the name, we realized he probably was the HOF-worthy ump.)

    And maybe-probably Bill White gets in for a being all over the place as a little of everything.

    Both aren't anything strong but I guess it would pad out any other inductions.

    Johnson, Leyland and Piniella's cases are pretty identical but nothing truly compelling about them.   Each got a ring but probably should have/could have had more.  When your failures are louder than your successes you probably aren't a HOF manager.

    With three pretty much locks coming up in Francona, Bochy and I guess Dusty Baker along with Mike Scioscia on the periphery I don't see the voters getting too excited about any of the three. 

    But vets committees are weird.  Harold Baines could get in again.

     

     

     

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  17. Jacksonville
    Cleveland
    Buffalo
    Chicago
    Washington
    Atlanta
    Baltimore
    Seattle
    LA Rams
    Green Bay
    Kansas City
    Miami
    San Francisco

     
    Tiebreaker #1: total points scored in Mia/Phi
    37

    Tiebreaker #2: Jared Goff passing yards vs Bal
    150

    Tiebreaker #3: yardage of the longest field goal kicked in GB/Den
    62

  18. Kansas City
    Baltimore
    Atlanta
    San Francisco
    New Orleans
    Miami
    Cincinnati
    Jacksonville
    Minnesota
    New England
    Philadelphia
    Detroit
    Arizona
    Buffalo
    Dallas

    Tiebreaker #1: total points in Cowboys-Chargers
    67


    Tiebreaker #2: Josh Allen passing yards vs Giants
    335

    Tiebreaker #3: Mac Jones + Zach Wilson interceptions thrown
    5

  19. Washington
    Buffalo
    Miami
    New Orleans
    Baltimore
    Detroit
    Atlanta
    Tennessee
    Cincinnati
    Philadelphia
    Denver
    Kansas City
    San Francisco
    Green Bay
     

    Tiebreaker #1: Winning margin in Giants/Dolphins
    39

    Tiebreaker #2: Mac Jones passing yards vs New Orleans
    75

    Tiebreaker #3: total points in Dal/SF
    36

  20. Detroit
    Atlanta
    Pittsburgh
    LA Rams
    Minnesota
    Tampa Bay
    Philadelphia
    Miami
    Cincinnati
    Cleveland
    Denver
    LA Chargers
    Dallas
    San Francisco
    Kansas City
    NY Giants

    Tiebreaker #1: Dak Prescott passing yards vs NE
    295


    Tiebreaker #2: Josh Allen rushing yards vs Miami
    57

    Tiebreaker #3: total points in Raiders/Chargers
    49

  21. San Francisco
    NY Jets
    LA Chargers
    Washington
    Green Bay
    Detroit
    Tennessee
    Jacksonville
    Miami
    Baltimore
    Seattle
    Dallas
    Kansas City
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Cincinnati

    Tiebreaker #1: Total points in Chargers/Vikings
    57

    Tiebreaker #2: Justin Fields rushing yards vs KC
    108

    Tiebreaker #3: Winning margin in Dallas/Arizona
    35

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