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  1. 46 minutes ago, Greggulator said:

    So one of the things with something like the Athena stuff:

    When something like that happens, is it Athena’s fault for not selling? Or is it the opponent’s fault for not thinking in advance about what body part to “injure” when you consider the other person’s moveset? Why try and work on someone’s knee if the face’s offense are things like a springboard or a knee strike?

    It feels a lot easier for a heel to attack a limb like a shoulder where you can still do a lot of  nasty work then have a face change their moves? 

    It's a fine line isn't it?

    It felt like Deeb/Baker had a run down of the story - Injure Athena as the FIP, hot tag to Storm followed by Baker/Deeb cheating to win and the Hayter spot post match.

    I can see a case for what you're saying but, specific to this match, someone as intelligent as Deeb should be working the leg specifically to take away Athena's move-set.

    "Grounding the high flyer" isn't a hard concept to grasp but when matches are called on the fly more often than not, it can lead to some weird interactions.

    It really goes back to an issue that I think is greater than some wonky spots/selling/logic and that is AEWs continued issues with production and polish.

    WWE would book that match to the nth degree and it would feel a little hollow. We could all basically call the spots and theory of the match coming.

    AEW though are so... I want to say 'in the moment' that there's no consideration for something as small as "I shouldn't use springboards & knee strikes after having my leg worked".

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  2. Most of the show felt like a bit of a slog but that main event was some great pro-wrestling.

    Great story telling with Jericho just being that step slower, that slight % weaker, that little bit desperate.

    Compare that to the women's tag where Athena had her leg worked on to open, then hit a springboard off the second rope and made the hot tag following a Meteora knee strike...

    Also was the crowd just not there for this show? Even my wife commented on how quiet the show was compared to normal. Is this an Albany thing liked steamed hams?

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  3. 21 hours ago, The Natural said:

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    I just hope there isn't a swerve that Garcia helps Jericho win. I don't think that will happen as I think it leads to Garcia vs. Jericho. I just really want Danielson as AEW World Champion but I've got a feeling Khan will put it on Moxley who doesn't need it. Put the top title on the best talent you have in Danielson and give the belt stability.

    We all dance around this but if stability is what they want then Danielson ain't it. He's one bad bump away from giving us another Interim Champion.

    I thought this was the perfect chance to crown Darby and really put the focus back on 'AEW Guys' with a program between him and MJF following Full Gear.

    Now I think we get Mox cementing himself as AEW's 'Top Guy' leading to MJF taking the title at Full Gear.

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  4. 8 hours ago, The Natural said:

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    Like the blend of the two eras.

    Just needs the skulls.

    I kid.

    Sugar Skulls as a compromise?

    Hunter gets his metal/death motif but we keep the colourful feel and put a greater focus on luchadores for a year.

    Then we rebrand again but instead of 'skulls' we get 'skols' and a year of Scandanavian bear fighters throwing bombs at each other ala Steiner v Goldberg.

    Theeeeeen we go from 'skols' to 'skills' and it's a year of NXT 'Pure' rules with the best technical grapplers the world has to offer.

    Theeeeeeeen....

  5. 6 hours ago, porksweats said:

    Ideal world - Facing 

    Reality - Teaming

    Darby, Sting & Muto v Pullman Jnr, Anderson Jnr & "A Mystery Partner"

    Bell rings and Muto IMMEDIATELY mists Sting in the face, leaving Darby 1 on 3.

    Sting makes the big heroic return, hot tag, pins Pillman to send the crowd home happy.

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  6. AEW should bring back "Spin the Wheel" for a TV special every now and then.

    They have a roster that loves to ad lib and work without restriction so having them get a match stip right before walking through the curtain would be awesome. If they don't want to risk that then you spin the wheel on Dynamite for the match on Rampage.

    Just don't rig the wheel like WWE did. If it means we end up with a random Toni Storm v Bunny barbedwire tables match, or FTR v The Acclaimed in a Davey Richards on a pole match, then so be it.

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  7. 2 minutes ago, The Natural said:

    I understand holding the AEW World Tag Team Championship change for Grand Slam Dynamite 2022. I'd have called the audible and put it on the Acclaimed while the match was happening vs. Swerve in our Glory at All Out 2022.

    It would have been huge but I don't think anyone could have seen that coming.

    I honestly think it was meant to just be a one and done match but the reaction means a pivot to a short feud and The Acclaimed getting a run.

    Full credit to Swerve and Lee for embracing the heel turn as well. Can we use this to change their team name to "Strick-Lee Business" now?

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  8. Fuck it.

    Allin beats Sammy.
    Danielson beats Jericho
    MJF costs Mox

    At Grand Slam Darby wins the World Title (because unlike Punk, Danielson puts people over) and we have Mox/Kingston MDK'ing Jericho/Sammy with Eddie finally getting Jericho to tap out. MJF watches on from a sky box and we build to him v Mox at Full Gear.

    MJF goes over and we get a great build for the World Title between two AEW 'Pillars'. MJF can even pull the 'You wouldn't have that belt if it wasn't for me' promo. Him taking out Sting backstage would be huge heat as well.

    I know people will want Bryan as champion but I love the idea of him always falling just a breath short and not winning the AEW Title until he's right at the end of his run.

    "You don't put the title on Andre" and all that.

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  9. I want a Buddy/Brodie/Julia v Butcher/Blade/Bunny feud that ends in a 6 person lights out match.

    The following Dynamite they all do the handshake of mutual respect end turn into a super group - Brodie as the leader and occasional World Title contender, Buddy the midcard guy putting on bangers for the TNT or AA titles, Butcher and Blade as the tag team with Bunny and Julia ending up in the Women's Tag Title Tourney that's going to come along sooner or later.

     

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  10. **Cold open...**

    Yo... Yo... Listen...

    Acclaimed comin' out here to spit to you

    What's legit 

    CM Punk didn't get fired 

    Nah, he just straight up quit. 

    Started pickin' fights 

    And then tried to run away 

    The next place you'll see him 

    Is curtain jerkin' TNA 

    It's time to put the strap 

    On a homie with some real fame 

    Ya main event tonight 

    For the title

    Is THE ACCLAIMED!!!

     

     

     

     

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  11. 5 hours ago, Jiji said:

    I mean MJF and Caster will likely say something. Cranky Jericho and Mox may make a comment about it as well having to come in on their week off. 

    Yo
    Yo
    Listen

    The media reporters layin' out
    All the backstage heat
    You were screamin' for Scotty Goldman
    When fronted by The Elite

    How's ya foot? Take it easy
    We ain't tryin' start an insurrection
    I just wanna make sure
    I'm not gonna catch your staph infection

    The Acclaimed raise the game
    Like we got cheat hacks
    You better call doc Amann
    For some Z-packs



     

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  12. Jericho v Moxley for the title?
    Will it be interim or full status?

    In other thoughts - 
    Does Ruby Soho get to punt Sammy in the dick 10 times on live TV?

    Will FTW ever get a shot at the tag titles or are The Acclaimed going to get a rematch?

    What's the plan for the Trios Titles now that Elite vs Undisputed is off the table?

    Does Wardlow have anything to say about MJF walking back in as the #1 contender when he's been undefeated as TNT champion since their match?

    Can't wait to hear JR telling everyone at home about why the storytelling of all these matches is irrelevant and how finishing moves are stupid. 

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  13. 1 hour ago, southofheavy said:

    There's also the staph infection that could've killed him, medical malpractice, and Vince saying "I'll owe ya one, pal" too many times. 
     

     

    1 hour ago, matwarz said:

    I think you need to actually listen to Punk document the whole affair on Cabana’s pod and get the actual facts. Everything was documented, backed up and indisputable given WWE caved in, paid Punk everything he was owed and backed down from a court case they were going to get slaughtered in. He had every right to be bitter and broken when he quit that company.

    To try and clarify:

    I'm not looking to defend WWE here.

    The point im making is that if this is a shoot, Punk is now developing a very negative position in his 2nd major promotion and is directly attacking the people that built that promotion.

    If it's a work then it's leaning into the absolute worst aspects of smarky kayfabe BS.

    I'm supposed to believe Cody Rhodes couldn't book the "Cody-verse" but Punk gets to do this?

    Maybe I'm screaming into the wind but it's not engaging or making me want to see what happens next. It's quite the opposite actually where I kind of want Punk to go away now...

  14. 50 minutes ago, Casey said:

    I’m pretty sure Punk quit WWE, and wasn’t “pushed out”, but go off king.

    Why did he quit though?

    He and Vince/Hunter clashed over his booking. They told him to do business or walk. It was an ultimatum.

    The point I was making is that his leaving WWE was because of backstage issues related to how he and his friends were booked. Now it appears the same issue is coming up in AEW with Khan/Elite subbing in for Vince/Hunter.

    If it's a work it's a poor one as it makes Punk look like the whiny, unprofessional loser WWE always said he was.
    If it's a shoot then Punk needs a good slap but I fear the Tony loves the Pipebomb era Punk too much to do anything about it.

  15. IF IT'S A WORK then they fucked up choosing Punk as the one to call out Hangman and the Elite.

    MJF would be the perfect guy to sit there as champ and say "Fuck the cool kids for not letting me in and fucking with my money/contract." It plays into his thinking he's the biggest star in AEW but also rings a lot more true because he's an AEW guy.

    Like it or love it, Punks persona will forever be tied to being pushed out of WWE for not wanting to do business their way. At the time we sided with him. We wanted justice for the 'indy darlings'.

    Having him bitch and moan about backstage shit in AEW turns this from a one time issue with Vince/Hunter into a pattern of behaviour. It makes it look like he took his ball and went home and didn't come back for 7 years because he wasn't going to get his way in any relevant promotion.

    IF THIS IS A WORK it's a terrible one because in a post kayfabe world we want/understand that harmony in a workplace is important. We want these guys to be able to go to work and enjoy themselves. It's the literal reason so many of us were happy these guys got out from under Vince.

    It wasn't about being world champions, it was about being able to perform with their own creative flair.

    There's been spot fires here and there backstage with AEW but now it feels there is a very clear divide forming between "Punk's guys" and "The Elite & Co".

    NOBODY wants an AEW Civil War storyline. We do not need to go down the path of a "WWE Guys" stable and re-hash of the fucking nWo... again.

    IF IT'S NOT A WORK then Punk should be flat on his back at Grand Slam dropping the title. Put MJF over and fuck off for a bit to work out what the hell he's doing. Be part of the team or take your ball and go home again. AEW was fine before you got here, it'll be fine after you're gone.

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  16. 7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

    Awwww I just thought of something sad. Brody and Buddy are like the Butcher and the Blade on steroids. It's not fair. 

    These 4 would actually be a sweet midcard stable.

    It would give us Bunny & Julia Hart in the eventual Women's Tag Title tourney as well.

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  17. 12 minutes ago, Chaos said:

    Random tweet that has some of it. 
     

     

    What an absolute bitch.

    I'm sure he sells plenty of merch but the honeymoon period is well and truly over with this guy in my eyes. I was ecstatic to have him back but he's no better than Hogan and Hunter when it comes to backstage politics and without someone to reign him in all his worst traits are showing.

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  18. 2 hours ago, EVA said:

    I love that he’s actually gotten the seatbelt over as a finish. Crowd went up for it.

    The day that he pins Moxley with it for the Title will be huge.

    The day that P-P-P-Powerhouse Hobbs becomes the first man to kick out of it will also be huge.

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  19. I'm all for people getting paid.
    I'm all for multiple promotions having multiple titles.

    If I'm watching AEW though, why is Claudio defending the ROH World Title on Rampage? Why is Dustin Rhodes wanting this title and not the actual AEW World Title? Are they equivalent in terms of pay and status? If the ROH Titles are that highly regarded then why aren't the Tag, Pure, Women's and TV titles being highlighted?

    Having 15 titles doesn't make these matches more interesting or prestigious. If anything it makes them more predictable. Dustin was never winning that match. Take out the title though and there's a chance he could have upset Claudio to start a program.

    In the last 12 months we introduced the TBS, AA and Trios titles to the AEW roster, as well as all the ROH Titles AND the AAA/NJPW Titles floating in and out.

    It was cool when Kenny was the Belt Collecter, building himself up as THE World Champion in North America. It dilutes things (IMO) when you have Mox and Claudio both claiming to be World Champion, Wardlow/Joe/Yuta/PAC/Hook all holding midcard titles, Multiple sets of tag titles from multiple promotions, Multiple women's titles... And this is all before you get to the 'Interim Champion' debate.

    I keep saying it but the ROH stuff needs to be confined to Dark. Turn that into the ROH Show, clarify the roster split, and keep everything clear. Then when you do Battle of the Belts every 6 months it actually has a purpose with the ROH guys being highlighted vs their AEW counterparts.

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