Antacular
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I grew up reading a lot of the EU (Han Solo trilogy, Thrawn, Tales of Cantina/Bounty Hunters/whatever, Young Jedi Knights, Bounty Hunter Wars, Courtship of Princess Leia, etc etc), but I have zero expectations that the new trilogy should mirror those works in any way. As others have said, the EU fanbase is so small that pissing them off is the least of Disney concerns.
The only EU character/event I'd count on Disney using is Fett's escape from the Sarlacc. Dude is too hot of a merchandise mover for The Mouse to not incorporate into a new set of movies. A Mandalorian uprising as the new villain gets my whole-hearted endorsement.
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I'm shocked at The Walking Dead hate here. Each season has gotten better and better, if anything, the first season is the one that fell way short. Because it's a ratings juggernaut, is it just the cool show to shit on now?
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Maybe one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen. Blown away. My only complaint is that Skyler, Flynn, and Marie are around, yet Hank had to bite the dust. Hoping the Aryans take Marie out, to tie up loose ends. Could see Walter hearing about that, begin to worry for Skyler and Flynn, which brings him back out of hiding.
Walt can't save Jesse, the Jane comment pretty much solidified that. My guess would be with Walt wounded from taking out the Aryans, Jesse ends up with the opportunity to save him, but decides not to. I agree with whoever said the gang HAD to be Nazis, as that would be the only way to elicit "sympathy" for Walt, in justifying his retaliation against them. Had just a bunch of Hells Angels did what the Aryans did, most people would probably be cheering them. But Nazi cheers? NEVER~!
Really, Walt offering the Aryans ALL of his money for Hank showed there was still good left in him.
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Yes I'm so "fixated" on you (A/S/L??) that I made two short and succinct claims (that he's a douche for quitting the show due to the fans, and not because of the CC suits), while also providing direct quotes from the man himself supporting my very statements during this time period. Clicked on Wikipedia and first link for Google "Dave Chappelle TIME," when will my obsession end~~~?!?
You, on the other hand, are apparently part of Dave's entourage, or Neal's lover, because you keep rambling on and on about how "Neal said this" or "Obviously Dave thought that" without providing ANY sources at all. I mean, goddamn, re-read your last post, and then come back and talk to me about fixations. Either source your claims, post a selfie with Neal, or get back to me on the A/S/L. Otherwise I'm done here.
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That says nothing about why he quit the show. All it says is that he doesn't like hecklers and said some shit back at them. So if everything you've said thus far is parsed from that tiny bit from fucking wikipedia, then please excuse me if I think your explanation is nonsense and bullshit at the same time. None of this even touches on how Neal, and others, didn't say that Dave believed Hollywood execs thought black writers were dumb, he said he believed that Hollywood execs thought black people were too dumb to write. Keep in mind that Dave Chappelle also thinks that these are the same Hollywood execs that have a hard-on for placing male black actors in dresses and he told this to Oprah on her show and Oprah looked at Dave like he was out of his fucking mind. At some point along the way, probably after hanging out with Paul Mooney too much, Dave became his character from Undercover Brother. So yes, clearly, "the defense rests."
Um, you do realize the Wikipedia quote has the link to the original source RIGHT THERE, no? Okay, how about ANOTHER direct quote from Dave, this time RIGHT AFTER he quit. Would the prosecution not object? Allllllll righty then.
http://content.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1061415,00.html
MAY 15, 2005:
"The problems, he says, started with his inner circle."If you don't have the right people around you and you're moving at a million miles an hour you can lose yourself," he says. "Everyone around me says, 'You're a genius!'; 'You're great!'; 'That's your voice!' But I'm not sure that they're right." And he stresses that Comedy Central was not part of the problem and put no more than normal television restrictions on what he could do."
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You're maybe the only person I've seen reference that Chappelle didn't want his work to be loved by people he didn't think were smart enough for it. It completely contradicts just about everything that has been said up until this point. And maybe at some point recently Dave has started spinning this tale, but it's about as much bullshit as his conspiracy theory about Hollywood having a fetish with putting black men in women's clothing to emasculate them.
1) I can't be the only person when Nate essentially posted the same thing I did just one page back.
2) From our friends at Wikipedia:
"In a June 2004 stand-up performance in Sacramento, California, Chappelle walked off the stage after berating his audience for constantly shouting "I'm Rick James, bitch!," which became a catchphrase from the popular "Rick James" sketch. After a few minutes, Chappelle returned and continued by saying, "The show is ruining my life." He stated that he disliked working "20 hours a day" and that the popularity of the show was making it difficult for him to continue his stand-up career, which was "the most important thing" to him. He also told the audience "You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong. You people are stupid."
So according to Neal, Dave thought Hollywood regarded black writers as dumb, yet here Dave is, saying the suits not only asked him to tone it down, but then proceeded to insult the intelligence of the audience. The defense rests.
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Why are his motives relevant? Do you own Viacom stock? If not I fail to see how his decision to leave affected you in any way except that you totes wanted more Chappelle Show.
No, what reeks of entitlement is quitting your job because you believe the very fans that propelled you to this level of success are too dumb to understand your brand of humor. From a guy whose prior well-known work consisted of a dead diabetic horse as a major plot device. Maybe he should've restricted box office sales to card-carrying MENSA members only.To me, the goofiest part of this discussion is that the "take his ball home" rhetoric smacks of entitlement. He gave the world two seasons of arguably the best sketch show ever. What he did after that is colossally irrelevant.
"Why are his motives relevant?" You act as if this is a discussion about Zuckerberg donating $100M to Newark Schools right as The Social Network came out, when it's about a guy quitting his job. At what point did I even hint that his decision affected me in any sort of way? Have I demanded he return to his show? Did I cry a river for Viacom?
No. I simply called him a douche for the way he handled the situation (Chappelle's Show, not the Hartford incident). People in this thread were supporting his decision to walk out on CC because they believed he did so due to creative constraints from the suits, whereas I'm saying he walked out on his show because he thought his fans were too dumb to get his material. If you don't understand the difference between quitting a job because of creative differences versus quitting a job because you think you're too smart for your fanbase, I don't know what else to tell you.
(And yes, I do own Viacom stock, but not at the time of his walk out)
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Not for nothing, but those KTMA episodes are pretty bad. The show became so much better when they started scripting it.
Either season 1 or 2(proper) had one of my all time favorite jokes, but I can't remember the film.
Guy in the movie: "Hey, I don't want any trouble" *picks up pipe wrench*
Crow: "So I'm gonna come at you with this pipe wrench"!
Also....
"What do you know, Trumpy"?
"Food. Eating. Theatre".
"Who does he think he is, an L.A. cop??"
I'll echo that the first few seasons are a shadow of what it became. I'll take Mike over Joel, New Crow over Old Crow, but Forrester/Frank over Pearl/Bobo/Brain Guy.
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To me, the goofiest part of this discussion is that the "take his ball home" rhetoric smacks of entitlement. He gave the world two seasons of arguably the best sketch show ever. What he did after that is colossally irrelevant.
No, what reeks of entitlement is quitting your job because you believe the very fans that propelled you to this level of success are too dumb to understand your brand of humor. From a guy whose prior well-known work consisted of a dead diabetic horse as a major plot device. Maybe he should've restricted box office sales to card-carrying MENSA members only.
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Cuz he isn't a fucking wrestler for whom all heat is good heat. Whether you like him or not, he's in the game for more than just a paycheck, and he cares a lot about how his work impacts society.I have no idea about Brennan's take on the matter, I'm going on what Dave himself has said. His stated reason for quitting the show was because he didn't feel comfortable with the "type" of laughs his show was eliciting.
One of his reasons for going to South Africa was to get in touch with his roots. If he really wanted to show everyone that he was in it for more than fame and money, he would've finished the season, and gave that $50M to some needy children in South Africa instead. But no, he wasn't comfortable with the laughs, so he took his ball and went home. He bleeds for his art.
It's quite amazingly arrogant of you to decide what someone would "really" have done.
I mean I thought the dudebros who felt the ticket they paid for gave them license to disrupt the show were entitled, but deciding what a man you presumably have no closer connection to than via his television show should have done with his life? Astonishing.
Is this your first day on the interwebz?
Isn't most of this thread basically that? Your outrage seems poorly aimed.
More appropriately, isn't most of the internet basically that?
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Cuz he isn't a fucking wrestler for whom all heat is good heat. Whether you like him or not, he's in the game for more than just a paycheck, and he cares a lot about how his work impacts society.I have no idea about Brennan's take on the matter, I'm going on what Dave himself has said. His stated reason for quitting the show was because he didn't feel comfortable with the "type" of laughs his show was eliciting.
One of his reasons for going to South Africa was to get in touch with his roots. If he really wanted to show everyone that he was in it for more than fame and money, he would've finished the season, and gave that $50M to some needy children in South Africa instead. But no, he wasn't comfortable with the laughs, so he took his ball and went home. He bleeds for his art.
Speaking of the discontinuance of his show, I also have to say that Chappelle deserves to lose several points of respect for how he handled the potential third season of Chappelle Show. According to numerous news outlets, reputable ones at that (if there is such a thing), CC was saying, "Hey, remember all that money we already gave you? Think you could come back and put together a third season?"
Dave: "No."
CC: "Well, we'll just cobble together a season three with all the stuff you have in the can already, before your 'trip' to Africa."
Dave: "You do that, and I'll never come back and do a third season."
CC: "Oh, then you might come back and do season three?"
Dave: "No."
And so on and so on, until you got that "Chappelle Show: The Lost Sketches" thing with Charlie Murphy & Ashy Larry.
I've never seen anything confirming if CC sued his nutsac bare for breach of contract.
This is also essentially what I've heard. It wasn't a meltdown, it was just some comedian who wanted to show everyone how "above" them he was.
And FYI, the "white frat boys" who were shouting "I'm Rick James, bitch!" were yelling out "I wanna see Samson!" way before that.
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27. Started posting here around 16-17.
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You're completely missing the point. Chapelle realized that he was basically becoming a doorway for white frat boys to to yell 'I'M RICK JAMES' and that he was more or less expected to shuck and jive.
That's why he walked away from his show, fame, and millions of fucking dollars. That's why I've got the utmost respect for the guy. He took a long hard look at what it really means to be a black entertainer in today's market, and instead of being comedy's Kanye or Jay Z, who basically make their money having any sort of message they have completely lost in an entitled white kid's ipod, he walked away from it.
Chapelle didn't want to shuck and jive anymore, and look what happened: everyone said OH MAN HE'S INSANE WHAT A MELTDOWN and wrote him off. In the past few years I've had the pleasure of seeing him perform drop ins at a few different places, and the dude is amazing.
He wasn't expected to do anything besides continue producing his program. Again, from what I've read, CC was ready to give him $50M to do his show the way he wanted; there was no pressure for him to use any specific topic of comedy, he had complete creative control. And don't give me that "doorway for white boys" line when CC was reluctant to air a bunch of his sketches, including blind white supremacist from the very first episode, because THEY felt he was crossing too many lines. No one is ever asked to "shucks and jive" for eight figures.
I really don't know what to make of your Jay-Z/Kanye and whiteboys ipod comment. I guess the only legitimate black artists are the "starving" ones? Looks like the only ones who really get music are you and Christgau.
Chappelle's "meltdown" had nothing to do with artistic integrity or any of that bullshit. To use the parlance of this forum, he was a smark who found out his audience was mostly marks. It was still real to him, damnit~~!
This all pretty much contradicts anything Neal Brennan has said on the matter.
I have no idea about Brennan's take on the matter, I'm going on what Dave himself has said. His stated reason for quitting the show was because he didn't feel comfortable with the "type" of laughs his show was eliciting.
I think we've reached the quota for exclamation marks in this thread.
Anyway, it would be crazy to believe that anyone is getting paid $50 million with absolutely no stipulations other than do a show.
It isn't when you're getting the ratings Chappelle's Show was. Again, CC were the ones originally who wanted to "tone down" the show, Dave had complete creative control.
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You're completely missing the point. Chapelle realized that he was basically becoming a doorway for white frat boys to to yell 'I'M RICK JAMES' and that he was more or less expected to shuck and jive.
That's why he walked away from his show, fame, and millions of fucking dollars. That's why I've got the utmost respect for the guy. He took a long hard look at what it really means to be a black entertainer in today's market, and instead of being comedy's Kanye or Jay Z, who basically make their money having any sort of message they have completely lost in an entitled white kid's ipod, he walked away from it.
Chapelle didn't want to shuck and jive anymore, and look what happened: everyone said OH MAN HE'S INSANE WHAT A MELTDOWN and wrote him off. In the past few years I've had the pleasure of seeing him perform drop ins at a few different places, and the dude is amazing.
He wasn't expected to do anything besides continue producing his program. Again, from what I've read, CC was ready to give him $50M to do his show the way he wanted; there was no pressure for him to use any specific topic of comedy, he had complete creative control. And don't give me that "doorway for white boys" line when CC was reluctant to air a bunch of his sketches, including blind white supremacist from the very first episode, because THEY felt he was crossing too many lines. No one is ever asked to "shucks and jive" for eight figures.
I really don't know what to make of your Jay-Z/Kanye and whiteboys ipod comment. I guess the only legitimate black artists are the "starving" ones? Looks like the only people who really get music are you and Christgau.
Chappelle's "meltdown" had nothing to do with artistic integrity or any of that bullshit. To use the parlance of this forum, he was a smark who found out his audience was mostly marks. It was still real to him, damnit~~!
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Chappelle during his prime (2000-"mid-life crisis") is one of my favorite comedians. Some of the skits on Chappelle's Show will never be touched. But I've never been sympathetic about the "break-down" he had and his subsequent move to Africa. Wahhhh I've reached the pinnacle of my profession that millions dream of attaining and I don't know how to handle the eight figures that my bosses want to pay me Wahhhhh.
You have to look at his bosses though. Unless you're one of the untouchables (Trey and Matt from South Park, Stewart, and now Colbert), they have NO requirement to be loyal to you. Dave probably did not see himself in that category despite the success of the series through two seasons. Look at what Comedy Central did to Katt Williams during the height of his success. He was on the verge of his getting his own Comedy Central series and more specials. Then they pulled the stunt at the Roast of Flava Flav. They treat him shitty before the show, give him no heads up on what other people are going to say, and then give him a script with incendiary racist material targeted toward Flava Flav. Just because Katt gritted his teeth and did it for the money one time doesn't mean that Dave had to over the course of years.
I read the interview he gave a few years back after it all went down (I want to say TIME), and it his complaints had nothing to do with the suits at CC being too pushy or demanding a certain type of material. One day Dave basically realized some people were laughing at his race jokes without understanding that the jokes were poking fun at them, and because of this, he had his hissy fit and flew off to Africa. If it was the case that CC demanded a certain type of humor that he wasn't comfortable with, I'd support him 100%. But it was a case where the performer discovered his audience wasn't as smart as he originally thought they were.
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Chappelle during his prime (2000-"mid-life crisis") is one of my favorite comedians. Some of the skits on Chappelle's Show will never be touched. But I've never been sympathetic about the "break-down" he had and his subsequent move to Africa. Wahhhh I've reached the pinnacle of my profession that millions dream of attaining and I don't know how to handle the eight figures that my bosses want to pay me Wahhhhh.
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Windows phone? More than likely. Xbox? Not a chance in hell. Microsoft wishes Windows phone and Surface had even a fraction of the marketshare that Xbox has.
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Phil Connors??
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Haven’t posted on here in ages, but of all topics I feel that warranted my two cents, this is it.
First off, I don’t believe Zimmerman is a murderer, and the prosecution certainly overreacted with the second degree murder charge. I felt that was their only major error, besides their jury selection skills. I’ll go so far as to say that given the fact that Trayvon was shot while on top of Zimmerman, and that only one shot was fired, that Zimmerman, at THAT MOMENT (and that moment only), did honestly fear for his life. It wasn’t murder, and he never should’ve been charged with it.
If I was a betting man, I would’ve put the farm on him being found guilty of manslaughter. Which IMHO, is what he’s guilty of. He didn’t act with malicious intent, which is what’s required for the second degree murder charge. But he did intentionally create a situation where the possibility of death was real, via his blatant disregard of the 911 operator telling him to stay in his car, which is really the crux of my argument: You simply can’t claim self defense when the entire situation arises out of your own volition via disregarding explicit law enforcement orders.
As for “Stand your ground?” Trayvon was being stalked by an unknown man for simply walking home at night. If he did in fact throw the first punch (which I believe he did), he only did so because of the close proximity Zimmerman was to him, and believed that Zimmerman was an imminent threat (remember, he’s a neighborhood watch, not a cop, he has no actual law enforcement authority). Where’s Trayvon’s right to Stand HIS ground? Further, Trayvon wasn’t using any weapons, he was using his own fists, which the law has decided are not “deadly weapons,” thus less justification for Zimmerman to use his firearm. To the people who said Trayvon engaged first, even AFTER seeing Zimmerman with the gun, that’s insane on so many levels: No unarmed person picks a fight when they know that the other individual has a gun. (And I honestly believe Zimmerman would never even gotten out of the car that night if he wasn’t packing heat. As they said in Superbad, having a gun is like “having a second cock.) It wasn’t a hard verdict, anyone who says that is just using mental gymnastics to justify the outcome.
Regarding the jury, apparently after the jurors delivered their decision, they all broke down and wept. Why would they cry if they honestly believed Zimmerman was not guilty? Or if their “reasonable doubt” was simply too great to overcome? They cried because they sympathized with him (that one juror even said she felt Zimmerman had “already been through enough.” Excuse me?), but still (sub)consciously knew he didn’t act in self-defense.
In spite the actual verdict, the most disturbing part of all this is the reactions I’ve seen to the verdict: People literally celebrating it, as some other poster noted, as if their team had won the SuperBowl. I could perhaps understand the jubilation if the question was whether Zimmerman shot Trayvon, but it was established that he did, by his own admission. No, they’re celebrating because they can now take comfort in the fact that should they ever feel threatened by a black person, the law is on their side to retaliate in any way they deem appropriate: In short, they’re celebrating their state-approved licensed to kill a minority. “Stand your ground”
Whoever doesn’t believe race has anything to do with this is incredibly naïve. Reverse the roles: If a black rent-a-cop shot an unarmed white kid walking home with Skittles? The very people celebrating this verdict would be demanding the death penalty there.
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IIRC, they're releasing a Han movie and a Fett movie inbetween the main episodes, for a total of 5 in the next 7 years.