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The WWWF/WWF style was very Kick/Punch up until the expansion got going and you had guys that were more about work rate, maybe some of it had to do with George Scott booking and bring in Mid Atlantic talent. The WWE was still a big mans territory dominated by Monsters and Body Builder like guys even some of those guys got to show off their athleticism. Mabel/Viscera/Big Daddy V did cool stuff for his size but I don't think it was a good decision to have him win KotR 95 especially with that bracket of guys even considering that the work rate had advanced with guys like Bret, Shawn and Owen near or at the top. If the New WWF Generation didn't have guys stuff with shitty gimmicks it would've been looked at more fondly style wise

Since April of '14 a few weeks ago was the first time I considered cancelling the Network. I Wrestlemania was Ok and I enjoyed a few matches on Money in the Bank. I wasn't watching the tv before the Pandemic soon you know I'm not watching now. The thing about WWE is there is always going to be a few guys I really enjoy watching, like Andrade is probably my favorite to watch, Daniel Bryan ofcourse. There's probably more than a handful of talent I'd consider myself a huge fan between the 3 brands that I could give myself a not to give up on the company completely. The way or lack of push for a some of these guys and girls may factor into my enthusiasm for the company. Before New Japan closed up after Wrestle Kingdom, I was fully invested in it, I told myself I was gonna make an effort to keep up with it closely, then the Pandemic hit. I hear they are opening soon. I wish they stayed close until they can get crowds, I believe the people will be ready once they were to open up again and not be ran into the ground like here. I understand why the American promotions running but I kinda wish they closed right now so the fans have a chance to miss wrestling. I thing because there is no off season , right now would have been a great time to force wrestling fans to have a break. The business could've benefited from a break from first run programming.

I feel like I should go back and check out 2008 PPV on the network I remember enjoying that year, lots of fresh talent like Punk emerging and Umaga, Taker was still a workhorse Finlay still going

He was the type wear his shades indoors but not outdoors because remember he was having many Sunny days.

Props to Martha for fighting against Vince, She had so much going against her, including half the Harts. Owen isn't persona non grata in WWE, so I dont see the big deal about him not going into the Hall of fame. Kevin Steen acknowledges his name and his son name came from Owen. She now is continuing on his legacy outside of WWE and I think that's the problem with alot of guys is they feel they need be apart of WWE to stay relevant. Even if you look at Flair, it took him till after he retired to gain mainstream fame outside of wrestling doing outside projects and just socially relevant people in pop culture acknowledging how big of a fan they are and that's worth more than anything Vince and company could do it they tried. If someone like Drake, or Kendrick Lamar decided to do songs about Jericho or Bret and had one of the apart of their entourage they'd be away more over outside of wrestling. I'm not anti WWE but I've always had respect for people that stood up to Vince for whatever reason, whether its Warrior or Punk or Bret. Bret and Punk still have no filter and no problem saying something they dont like about WWE or an unpopular opinion unlike most guys that come back or get on good terms with Vince

They didn't bring up the Idea of using Mascarita Sagrata, I'm sure they would have had to had plans on having the rigging more secure I believe. I get that the Blue Blazer was used to make fun of Hogan and Sting but by Late 98 and '99 I dont remember Sting doing it anymore. Knowing what we know about the pettiness of WWE, it bothers me knowing that the reason he was in the gimmick was a rib in the first place. He had a good this going teaming with Jarrett but they wanted to use the love interest angle that he refused. Even set aside Owen's Moral objections to doing the angle anyone who's watched long enough at that point knows that angle doesn't fit him in that role anyway. I seen a clip of Animal saying how Owen told him personally that he was uncomfortable doing the deal before he left to go to the Airport. I know its wrestling, but image Foley telling people how uncomfortable he is Bumping from the Cell or Someone in a TLC afraid to bump off a 20 ft ladder. They probably won't be doing it especially as a regular part of their deal. It seems like alot to have to invest in for something that is not for a major payoff. Bischoff and WCW get alot of Shit for not using Bret the way they could have but WWF should have went all the way with Owen trying to avenge Bret.

I don't know why I dont remember this, I was watching at the time. I didn't get the PPV. I remember JBL was feuding with Shawn and somehow Shawn was working for him, I dont remember Jericho feuding with JBL.

I thought he signed a new contract a few months back, I would like to him in AEW with Tully, Arn and Jake. AEW have been better at featuring legends in non wrestling roles than WWE but he'd probably be afraid he'd put heat on Charlotte if he worked with anyone else. He looks in the best health he's been in since his health scares

They had a blood feud ? When was this?

Was Honky Tonk Man apart of the office sort of then? He was doing commentary in early 97 and watching at the time it didn't feel like it was solely for the Rockabilly angle. Maybe it was but he wasn't bad on commentary, I would've preferred him as a commentator than as someones mouth piece.

In WWF/E's Universe why wouldn't Slaughter or Miz be HOFers at some point, Slaughter was right behind Hogan as #1 Babyface before leaving and Headlined when he was brought back and treated like a legend over the years, Miz has been the most reliable when it comes to Media and press and very much a company guy. I think he has has some of the Strongest US and IC title runs in modern times where they both mean something. Miz will never be in Reigns or Lesnars spot obviously but he is consistent as a upper midcarder

Jericho needed to be outside of WWE for another major promotion that would allow him more creative freedom, I feel like Edge would've did awesome in AEW too if he decided to in a non Covid19 world. Honestly he still don't know how limited Edge is in the ring yet because he hasn't had a straight up match yet but he's so creative and smart.

It didn't hit me till years later that Team Canada was supposed to be Russo's WCW version of the Hart Foundation with Storm as Bret. I understand the criticisms now that Storm gets but when I was younger I thought Lance was a wrestlers wrestler in the circus of WCW and I enjoyed watching Skipper too. I wonder now if Russo would've had Bret in Lance's role if the was still active or had him in the group at all. They were probably my favorite thing about WCW when I did check them out. I liked Major Gunns too because ever other women in WCW was either a blatant ripoff of someone in WWF or wasting TV time by dancing like the Nitro girls or Stacy Keibler

When I saw the first headline Monday, afternoon, Wanted to avoid this board till I got any confirmation. He's seemed like a very sold person, I follow him on Instagram and you can tell he was a good family man and a great friend to people in the business too. I remember seeing his his comment pop up wishing the Rock happy birthday a few weeks ago and Rock thanked him back minutes later. He had a ton of other great things going on outside of wrestling but I could tell he was still a big fan. I could see that big brother dynamic he had with JTG and my thoughts are with him as well as Shads. He seemed like such a credit to the business. There is even a young lady I follow on Facebook today that posted about him helping her start in the business recently. This one really hurts but Thankfully he saved his son

I wish had got the Rey vs Liger match we were supposed to get about 2 years ago. I think he and Cody would have a better match than they did years ago considering Cody is much better now plus they'd have a great backstory for the match. AEW treats Legends so much better than WWE. He'd do fine ending his Career there although I wouldn't trade his matches with Andrade for anything I don't think he have matches at that level with anyone else in WWE atleast

I want fully paying attention to last night but I rewatched Rollins vs McIntyre and it was really good. I don't watch the shows week to week but I think this was one of Rollins better matches as of late. His Match at Mania was good as well. I hope he sticks to doing these straight up pro wrestling matches and not do anything of the theatrical stuff. We saw how the Fiend match turned out for him in front of a crowd. I love Drew's Glasgow kiss Headbutt, it's not a Headbutt use can really see through like most guys. Both guys brought it here, I know WWE likes to run matches into the ground but I'd like to see these two go at it again.

With no Crowds at the Events, how does WWE detect what is getting over with the Audience, are they going by Social media, YouTube video views. I know tv ratings are down ridiculously low because of the circumstances but I feel bad for the Current champions Braun and McIntyre right now because they got their first world/universal title runs and there's no real metrics to measure how over a person is. Business wasn't good before all this and I imagine it will take a while to recover from this attendance wise and viewership wise when it does get back to normal. I thought Braun should've been Champ Years ago and I thought between RR and before the lockdown they'd build Drew nicely leading up to his win. I hope when WWE come out on the other side of this, that they do get anything held against them.

I barely watched WCW at that point, I wasn't familiar with the Varsity Club so when I saw them I was trying to figure out why are these guys together. I probably watched more Saturday night than anything at that point because I enjoyed watching the Powerplant guys work. I was fully invested in ECW after they got on TNN and WWF at that time, I'd check in on WCW once in a while. Russo era had some bad stuff when I checked in but I will say there where a few guys I thought had potential and Rey, Juvi and people like that I always enjoyed.

Because of his position in the business and also I think it's the not completely burning your bridges aspect. I'm listening to the Revival on Jericho's podcast and they are talking about how they talked to Vince and how surprised at how educated they were and about being from North Carolina too like he was. Its asham how Vince views people in certain way, much like Luke Harper too. I always think about Vince telling Austin on his podcast that the current guys are complacent and dont come to him with ideas, then you hear guys go on Podcast saying they pitched stuff to creative and Vince directly all the time. The Revival are very smart guys to the business, I see why they insisted on leaving because they know that they can go further with the chains of WWE off them.

I caught one of his IG livestreams and he spoke like he was still pretty much a company guy, most WWE apologists see this as just Vince deciding to keep Roman out of WWEs conciousness while he's out until he can return which makes sense. I don't see it being anything more than that but I could be wrong.

Hero is more known by his non WWE name obviously but I will say he probably had the best name of anyone to be apart of that NXT system and it played off the Knock Out artist deal he already had going on. He probably is one of the guys that will have a job waiting for him again when they get back to normal, itll probably be up to him whether he wants to stay on the indies. Even the Revival seems like they've done there best to not have to do a complete makeover outside of WWE for over a year now, it's just the timing was bad.

What was Baba's view on Kobashi, I didn't get into Puroresu until about '03 or '04 my perception was Kobashi was Rock Misawa was Austin but Misawa was evidently Hogan. I was a bigger fan of Kobashi when I started following NOAH, but he was injured alot and had that cancer scare that slowed him down an Akiyama never got to the level people thought he'd get to

If Yokozuna was around in the 00s, I wonder what his gimmick would be? I could see him being a Singles version of 3 minute warning because he was a huge hip hop fan. Nash always credits Yoko as his inspiration for alot of the NWOs presentation with the gang signs and the street clothes, listening to Mack 10 and west coast hip hop. According to Konnan, Yoko was the only person in wrestling with street credibility, I guess besides Ahmed Johnson after I saw that picture of him with some legit Blood members in his WWF logo shirt. Even towards the end of his WWF run Yoko was doing promos in his real voice so I could image him going with a completely different gimmick. I liked the Yokozuna gimmick but I often wonder if they didn't go with Sgt Slaughters Sumo idea how different would he be if he embraced his Samoan heritage. Maybe he wouldn't have been pressured to get so much heavier than he got being a Sumo

I think it was a defense mechanism for JR to legitimize whatever was going on in the ring. A way to add credibility to the presentation. JR always brings up his Dad grilling him about being a wrestling fan so I think that was just a defense mechanism he had to give credibility to what we a watching, especially when I guy had an eye rolling gimmick, probably someone he hired on. I remember he would put over Flash Funk/2 Cold Scorpio alot in WWF but he was stuck with a dumb gimmick. I think about how he had to feel about Austin or even Tracy Smothers, you recommend a guy you really believe in, they get signed and get stuck with a gimmick that is impossible to get over and you gotta put it over like you're into it.

His use of the sledgehammer was one of my biggest criticisms of him and I know he wasn't the first to use it, I think The Rock used it on Kane to his back or somebody like that in late 98. HHH brought it back in 01 on Austin to get heat in their feud.I thought it was such a cheap way to get heat. Disregard the fact that you really have to suspend disbelief, I always thought it discredited him as a dominant threat especially for someone who is supposed to be viewed on the same level as Austin or Rock. It would be one thing if your a lower card guy or complete underdog feeling the need to even the odds but not a top guy whose supposed to be booked as a superior wrestler than even Rock or Austin. Sting had a bat to fight off a whole gang of guys that most of them were bigger than him, it made sense. I'm glad that other main events in WWE didn't feel the need to have a signature foreign object that's out of the paradigm of Wrestling because it really takes me out of his matches