jaedmc
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8 minutes ago, nate said:
Yo. This went on sale today thru Vinegar Syndrome.
I just watched the trailer a couple of hours ago, and will probably add it to my order. Fucking skeezy clown.
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Not funny, but when I read Madusa's tweet, it took me several reads to realize she was saying H-Bomb or some shit like H-Bomb in people's food.
But what's sad is that I read it as H-Bomb or "literal actual shit" and thought that sounded right too.
What have we become?
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I actually believe he didn't read it. And that's really the problem, isn't it?
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I expected Hunter to be vague, but I was surprised at how much lamer he handled it. Like he could've said "it's fluid we're still sorting things out, so I can't comment on specifics now." Instead he was like "guys this week was amazing."
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I mean I get it with Slim Jim hopping back on. They probably have a very surface level understanding of - "According to the internet, that guy is the bad guy right? Make him gone and we're good." It's a low bar to jump over, but at least they were willing to do it. The rest of us are, understandably, like that It's Always Sunny gif of Charlie and the Conspiracy Board yelling "You don't know how deep this runs Slim Jim!"
I'm glad Vince is being taken out. I can't overlook the small victories.
But, like many of you, I need a little more. But that will have to come from someone else, and it's not some company who was just trying to get their product in front of some eyeballs. It needs to be a human being, and I know there's one somewhere in that fucking shit hole, and I just wish they'd say any thing.
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55 minutes ago, Octopus said:
We need a beef jerky company with integrity and we need it NOW
Jack Links?
...wait.
Nevermind.
Clearly Beef Jerky is not the way.
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7 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:
Seeing on Twitter that Slim Jim is already back in with the Rumble sponsorship btw.
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11 minutes ago, Godfrey said:
Looks like Trips is still having the press scrum after the Rumble so we’ll see what goes down there
Feels like an opportunity to keep his job if Endeavor is really thinking about purging Vince cronies.
But that hinges on Kenny Wrestlefart from Ken's Wrestlefarts dot com asking a moderately tough question.
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It's cool we'll do the moderating. Thanx
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Slim Jim just put a pause on their relationship with WWE.
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Okay here's the deal.
This is an upsetting story. People are upset. If it upsets you that people get upset, don't be shitty at them because they're upset.
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If you're upset, don't lash out at everyone because your upset. It's unhealthy and honestly unhelpful.
We're all trying to sort out how we feel, and up until now we were doing it pretty well. We had disagreements, and most of us tried to listen and be respectful. There are no winners in this story.
If you can't handle talking to each other like human beings over this inhumane shit, I start giving a week off to anyone involved in the conflict. Both sides. Doesn't matter if we're personally cool or not. Walk away from your keyboard. Mute the person that's bothering you. It's best for everyone else who've come here to connect to other fans and find some shelter from the storm.
I'm going to go have a date night with my wife and celebrate my sister giving birth to a baby girl.
When I come back, y'all better be cool to each other.
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...My Barnes and Noble just has a couple copies of Barbie on a comic book rack. This is bullshit.
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Okay let's take a minute.
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2 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:
I mean, isn't that how we feel about Slim Jim? The entire cultural cachet of WWE's sponsorships are legalized trucker speed, faux meat sticks, and acne products. And I guess Mountain Dew.
When someone first brought up Slim Jim here, I thought they were asking historically why Slim Jim left back in the 90's. So I'm clearly out of the loop as to what commercials even play today. Is Miss Cleo still around?
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8 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:
I'll amend my previous statement that there's something else that may force TKO to do something - if the sponsors pull out, since apparently Slim Jim has withdrawn their sponsorship.
But it's going to take pretty much all their sponsors (and, realistically, their TV partners), I'd imagine.
I swear anytime anyone says something about WWE's sponsors the first one I think of is....
STACKER 2.
That was a billion years ago now. But it's all I remember.
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My gut reaction is to feel like that. But I try to take a breath and be understanding. Not everyone has the strength, you know?
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This thought goes through my head:
Imagine fighting a guy over using real glass in a match you're not in and threatening to walk out of the biggest show in the company's history. Then you leave and work for people you've called bootlickers and embarrassing humans. Then this happens. What do you do?
I'd give anything for Punk to be the guy he wants us all to think he is.
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I should say, I don't think everyone knew. I'm not looking to go down the roster and assign guilt. What I really want is for someone, anyone to do the right thing. I don't need Bryan Danielson to say "Sorry guys, this fucker fooled me." It's fine, I don't blame him. But someone somewhere knew more and they did nothing. I just want one of them to stand up. I want someone to look at how TKO is approaching this and say, I'm not working here until that guy is gone. Anyone.
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I would hope and imagine most people didn't know the extent of it. But it feels like more than just a whisper to me. It feels like a lot of talking for years. In fact this specific accusation was brought up before, it's why he was ousted the first time. The total picture came out yesterday, but people in the company have had much longer than 24 hrs to reckon with the character of this asshole.
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I'd give anything for someone to just stand up and walk out.
16 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:"Who knew what" is kind of a shitty game to play here because the thing about these kinds of abusers is that they're really good at hiding things and endearing themselves to non-would-be-victims specifically so it seems like a crazy idea that they would be capable of such crimes.
I get what you're saying, but my conflict with this is that this wasn't really a surprise. I don't think he was good at hiding any of it. I'm not interested in hunting people down and saying "what did you know?", but in this specific case, it's clear people knew. And I'm more hurt that it took this long for some it all to come around.
This wasn't one abuser, this was a team effort. People supported him in doing it. So I don't fault people for wondering how bad the systemic rot is.
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Just now, piranesi said:
Yeah. All of that stuff now just feels like "But Al Capone ran a soup kitchen" and "But Hitler loved dogs."
But the worst thing is that I was smart enough to see through that. All of us were smart enough to see through the pink shirt bullshit. i don't blame some kids for wanting to meet their tv friends but I can still blame myself for letting it go by and just accepting it. I was a grown ass adult who knew for a LONG time just what a sick Demon the man was and assumed worse as well and I just let it all ride because what "I don't want to take it out on the workers. They're nice guys."
Well a lot of them weren't and aren't and I think we'll find out right now how many of them have a shred or morality or dignity left when paychecks come next week.
This is kind of the anger I'm feeling today, and something I alluded to in an earlier post when I talked about who else knew Vince like this.. Like others had to know, and I just feel like the industry went silent today.
And I also have a lot of disdain for anyone who said they were a "wrestling journalist" who only spent their time reviewing RAW and trying to get access to their favorite wrestlers. We all knew he was garbage. They knew too. And instead of trying to get to the bottom of it, they played nice for access and clicks.
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3 minutes ago, piranesi said:
Looking back on it all I really can't believe how much I let slide and still watched wrestling. I really feel genuinely guilty about how far I was willing to let these sick fucks go. All the way past Saudi Arabia even for awhile. That it took this much is an indictment of me as well.
Goddamn.
Just wanted to say I get where you're coming from. I feel that way about a lot of stuff. I don't really know what the answer is. I love the idea of wrestling, but then I wonder how many kids got a Make-a-Wish visit from this company, and now their parents are like "That guy was doing what with women?" It's fucked.
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2 minutes ago, Greggulator said:
If you're talking about the "celebrity doctor" -- all signs point to Dr. Phil. If true: Vince forced the woman he was sexually harassing into seeking mental health treatment with Dr. Phil.
.... I thought it meant doctor to celebrities, not a doctor who is themselves a celebrity.
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3 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:
Even going beyond the allegations, which of course are horrendous, my first thought was just how people that seem "good" to fans (mostly Cena and Rock in his case) had to know about it, but are always supporting and backing Vince. Going places with him, still working together, always being positive. I can't say how I'd respond if I knew my boss was doing those kind of things, especially in an environment where they were the biggest place to work, so I don't feel right judging EVERYONE that knew for not quitting and talking about it. But those two... those two don't need Vince or WWE. They don't need to say nice things about Vince and pal around with him. If they felt it wasn't their story to tell, that can be debated, but regardless they could have distanced themselves from him. And they didn't. It just makes you question things, its not a great feeling.
I am going off the assumption/hope that the women didn't know. I hope Becky, Charlotte, etc. didn't know about it as even if Vince bragged about it he was probably selective on who was around as to not offend the 'wrong' parties. But you'd be hard pressed to convince me that Cena, Rock, and Taker weren't aware.
I've honestly thought the same thoughts as this, long before today. I feel like everyone knew Vince was a creep at best. Like they're all online. Everyone hears the same rumors. And some wrestlers have made some wild accusations about him in shoot interviews that feel less crazy today then they did 20 years ago.
But then I'd hear Bryan Danielson say ...
Quote‘I won’t say much, but thank you for the conversations, the life lessons (about both what to do and what not to do), and the best hug I’ve ever received. I wish more people could see you how I see you.’
And I'd wonder, "am I fucking crazy?"
And so many people talk about his brilliance that don't have to because they're independent. You mentioned Rock and Cena. Steve Austin is another one.
I guess I have to remember that this gross side is still only one side of Vince, and that some people may have never been exposed to it. No matter how much it feels really fucking obvious to so many of us who've been keeping up with wrestling for the last 30-40 years. But it's probably really easy to overlook the red flags when the guy is also making your childhood dreams come true.
I had a family member who died who was not a great guy either. So many people came to the funeral and told me how much they loved him. The whole time I had to keep reminding myself that they just didn't see the bad. And it sucks that not everyone is paying attention.
So is it possible that there are some wrestlers who knew but won't say. Undoubtedly. I'm interested in knowing, but I don't know if we'll ever know. I certainly want some atonement or justice or something. But I feel like that's rare these days.
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41 minutes ago, Log said:
My kid is so excited to watch the Rumble this weekend. God, I don't think I can sit through it. I don't really want him to watch either, but how do I explain why?
This is all so gross.
I feel you. We're planning a party with the kids to watch it. I'm making pizzas and we're all drawing numbers. I'm trying to remember that Vince doesn't own the company any more, and it looks like some of the worst offenders are either out or being ousted. Many of the people who work there are clearly much happier now that he's gone.
Sadly I think the biggest life skill WWE has taught me is how to compartmentalize.
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The Wall Street Journal Vince McMahon Thread.
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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Love to see a co-defendant step away from the other and say "It was his fucking idea."
Some other folks with way more knowledge can answer this but doesn't this make it harder for Vince and Co to settle before this goes to trial? If a co-defendant is basically saying "Yeah that happened and I'm a victim too-" why would plaintiff want to take a settlement?