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  1. Not a surprise ratings for this show are down 25 percent from last week. Starting the show with the corny Rollins/Fiend angle (complete with one of the lighting guys being shown clearly in shot when the house lights came back on), a non finish in a match to determine who picks first in the draft, Stephanie just reading out the picks, corny War Rooms and King Corban all in the first 30 mins is not a recipe for ratings success I wouldn’t have thought.
  2. I think there is a big difference between sloppy in ring work that puts people’s health/safety in danger, and being dissatisfied with the booking/theatrics.
  3. As ridiculous as the match was, would it come anywhere near close to the top 5 dumbest Undertaker (and I guess also Kane) moments? He kidnapped the boss’s daughter to marry her in a satanic wedding (which ended up being revealed to be a plot his boss was in on), hung someone from Hell in a Cell, embalmed Mideon on air (those three all happening within 6 months or so and then not long after disappeared and returned 6 months later as a Biker without any of those powers for the next 3 or so years) has been buried alive and almost killed his manager/possible father by encasing him in a cement crypt in the middle of an arena. How about his early involvement in the Warrior/Roberts angle. So the reaction about this being company killing seems just a little hyperbolic. My personal problem with the match was they had so many moments where it killed the suspension of disbelief. If it was just the cartoonishly large mallet and the over the top cartoon violence, with the match/show ending when the ref called the “no contest”, with the post match antics moved to Raw tomorrow, the angle as a whole probably wouldn’t have come across so badly and still serves all the same purposes (keeps title on Seth while still allowing Bray to no sell the beat down as he was never pinned and fresh enough 24 hours later after the most violent in ring beating in however long to get his vengeance). As it was, it was just too much to pack into 30 minutes. If people are mentally checking out 4/5 times because they find the stuff so over the top (personally the red light, the mallet, the violence, the eventual no selling of the violence and then the fake blood at the end we’re the main bits where I just chuckled at how fake/ridiculous it was), you’re going to get the reaction that was seen tonight.
  4. I agree, but I think the reaction to him coming out showed he can be rehabbed as his legit credentials won’t ever get less impressive. I understand people like Ali and all, but for all of his bumps during that match, the crowd was dead for his ascent to the ladder and never once reacted like they thought he was a serious chance of winning even though it was clearly building to the end spot (which tbh I figured was going to be a Bray Wyatt run in). They then exploded for Lesnar, who got a much bigger pop and reaction than anybody else in that match simply by pushing someone off and climbing a ladder. I’ve never really had a problem with crazy bumps/spots in a match, but this one really just highlighted to me how pointless so many of them seemed to be, and how the crowd reaction to those spots seemed to get less and less the more of them they were, with the immediate contrast of the reaction of someone who took no bumps in that same match.
  5. I really was expecting HHH to say “Now you’re dealing with Paul”. But seriously that is probably the best use of Rousey since she’s been in, except she pretty much killed Becky dead with that beat down (and maybe not her heat, but certainly credibility, especially with the casuals or people they are hoping to stay on when Rhonda goes), and really should’ve been Charlotte instead. Because of her UFC background, Rousey comes across as way more credible than any normal pro wrestling promo could when she says she’d beat the piss out of them IRL, so by having her then do so right after saying it just re-enforces she’s on another level to them. If it was Charlotte that got it in that last segment (without Becky present), and have Becky cop a beating from Rhonda later on down the line in a more heel-ish manner (like a proper sneak attack, not an attack where she was hit second and was also armed with a weapon that she’s used before at the start of the attack), then it could elevate Becky as the person that can hang on Rhonda’s level by beating her. As it is though, the ex UFC champ just told everybody they are legit tougher than everybody else and can beat everybody up, and then went and did it. It’s like how well would’ve Austin’s image gone if Tyson had just knocked him out cold during the Raw angle in Fresno?
  6. They may as well just have Rollins step aside to give Reigns his shot at Lesnar if he is going to be back full time from here on in given there is still 5-6 weeks until Mania. If they are going to basically forget about the Shield breakup, just go the next step and pretend Summerslam didn’t happen either. They tried so long to try and manufacture a favourable reaction to him beating Lesnar at Mania, and now they have the perfect opportunity to do so which requires no manufacturing at all. I doubt even the smarkiest if smarks would boo and would genuinely feel happy for the guy after what’s he’s been through. And if they are going to exploit it, they may as well exploit it to the point that the payoff for the exploitation is 60-70k fans cheering (and doing so loudly) for him beating Lesnar at Mania, which none of us would’ve considered possible 12 months ago
  7. It would’ve drawn over a legit 50k easy. About a 6th of the seating capacity was tarped off (so from maybe 100k down to around 60-70k in the grandstands), yet the only patchy spots in any of the grandstands where from the middle/back of the top deck and the last 5-10 rows of the bottom grandstand level.
  8. Paid $300 for what I thought were pretty decent seas on level 2 only to have the centre of the ring obstructed due to the stupid marquee. A raised or more defined entrance way (or at least showing the entrances on one of the video boards) would’ve also added to the experience, but that is probably to be expected in a stadium that big. Apart from that the experience of going to a big show was pretty good. The crowd around me weren’t that vocal (and neither was I) but again I figure that is more due to the distance because the crowd on the ground seemed pretty enthusiastic, although as the show went on (and the drunker the crowd got) there was a bit more atmosphere in my area. Even after having been to hundreds of football games there, it still struck me just how big the place was seeing the wide open expanses of that ground with a legit 10-15k or so on the ground, but still having massive pockets of space around them.
  9. Most massively traded public companies do not broadcast their core product live and direct from there, whilst at the same time professing to be such an inclusive and progressive company. By continuing to put themselves in situations where this can be an issue, they risk losing their new found credibility in the wider media world. Sami Zyan’s injury really bailed them out of what could’ve been an extremely uncomfortable situation
  10. The problem with that logic is would the same opinion be had if it was financially prudent for them to avoid using black wrestlers in certain areas? If they had an openly gay male wrestler, would they leave him off this show for the same reasons? If anything, all these Saudi shows are doing is making it quite clear the women’s “revolution” and related marketing with Rousey etc are just a cynical attempt to cash in on equality branding and nothing else.
  11. Wouldn’t be shocked if something happens in Melbourne to lead to a HBk/Taker match here. Considering the royal family seem to be marks for 90’s stuff, maybe they’ll even get Nash to be in Michaels corner.
  12. I wonder if Heyman will also be on this show with Lesnar, or if Lesnar will be by himself.
  13. I wonder if Broken Matt referencing being woken by the “Consumer of Terrestial Entities” or CTE is a coindicence or not?
  14. The barn burning to release Ortons mind doesn't really fit either, because that was always his plan. He was never under Wyatts spell and always planned to screw him once he won his trust according to his speech. They never really made that a focal point during the angle for this to make sense. It focused more on Orton turning him against Harper. It made no sense for him to give up his shot if he was just going to say 'I was just playing and I wanna destroy you' 2 weeks later when literally nothing had changed to their on-screen story. The only ways Ortons actions make logical sense is if his plan was to screw over both AJ and Wyatt on the way to winning the title from the start. The only person who loses something that had been built up was Styles by losing his guaranteed title match at WM that he won fairly. The shack and corpse that Orton burnt down were ancillary to the Wyatt character and the significance of them (ie first time the chair in the shack was put over as his only place of solitude) was only really introduced in the same segment they were destroyed. If Harper had won the match would he still have burnt the shack down? With how illogically this has been booked, I wouldn't be shocked if Harper is back with Wyatt by WM.
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