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  1. 9 hours ago, hammerva said:

    Also if you need anymore proof about how much control the Von Erichs had over that state,  you have all these World Class guys in a hotel room or rooms filled with hookers, illegal pills, and mounds of cocaine AND THE COPS WERE AT THE FRONT DOOR doing nothing

     

    That had nothing to do with any type of control the Von Erich’s had, per the Iceman they paid the cops $1,000 each, cops everywhere did and still do things like that. 

  2. I’m a huge Blur fan and was scratching my head when I saw them billed in large letters for Coachella this past weekend, then I wasn’t shocked at all that the crowd of 20something influencers didn’t really care when they played. If Coachella was around for the height of Britpop in 1994/1995 Blur still wouldn’t have gotten any big reaction. 

  3. 9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

    So what's the story behind that, they get in trouble from the administration or hawks in the public and press?

    Back then there wasn't the manufactured outrage by the right that there is now, but I'm sure Lorne got called to the carpet for it, that's when GE who had massive military contracts owned NBC.

  4. 12 minutes ago, madl said:

    Optics are bad, but Sutter Health Stadium is a much nicer place to watch a baseball game than Oakland Coliseum and I imagine Sacramento might provide hot crowds for at least a while, as opposed to Oakland (which allays has some excuse why they’re not supporting their pro sports teams).  Probably a positive change in the short-term.  
     

    Opening a new ballpark in Las Vegas in time for 2028 or 2029 seems a mite ambitious considering they don’t seem to have a blueprint yet, so far as I know.

    The Tropicana which is located on the site of the stadium closed on Tuesday, so things are kind of moving. 

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  5. 35 minutes ago, Tabe said:

    Shue is the only good part of Cocktail. The movie's concept and plot are just so stupid and ridiculous. But she's so hot and interesting that you can forget all that when she's around. 

    Haven't seen Cocktail in ages but remember it being total Regan era propaganda like Ferris Bueller, even though Cruise's character turns down a payoff from Shue's dad.

  6. 2 hours ago, Technico Support said:

    LOL I was almost 14 years old, I can't remember. 

    Apparently the only thing that exists is one pic:

    hogan-sammartino.jpg

     

    Apologies for not getting some shots on a Polaroid or maybe Kodak Disc. 

    Was Bruno originally scheduled to be in the match, he was doing a decent amount of fill in duty during this time. 

  7. 16 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

     

    New York is a Union Town, so all I know is Rubble better have all his permits in order and make sure the site is safe and secure before building because otherwise...

    Oh, and he'd better be ready for the code enforcement inspection of his little 7 year old life, because I'm sure code is different when a fucking stadium is built by a dog.

    They need to have a duck character who Rubble gives an envelope full of cash to every week, you know so everything on the job site works smoothly. 

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  8. 2 hours ago, No Point Stance said:

    YouTube is littered with fan-made sizzle reels of wrestlers, including at least two I've seen of Williams looking like a terrifying monster in AJPW. If WWF had wanted to, they absolutely could have gotten him over two fans with maybe two 30-second spots of highlights; build the threat around the possibility of Doc landing the backdrop driver on Austin's recently broken neck (don't forget, Austin never had to take the move, just get waistlocked and fight for the ropes a few times), maybe bring in someone non-cartoony as his mouthpiece, and you've got the makings of a solid six-month run at least. 

    Doc was way to broken down for any kind of long run, everyone seems to think 1998 Doc was 1988 Doc, he wasn't. Also, there was no real opening for Doc to feud with Austin in that 1998/1999 fall/winter/spring, the Stone Cold-Undertaker-Kane feud ran to the end of the year, then the build for Austin-Rock at Wrestlemania started, the Austin-Vince matches during that timeframe were part of the build to Mania, Doc has no place expect for a random match on Raw.

  9. 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    The last part is why I don't think it's TOTALLY different in Saudi Arabia in that they just had a PFL vs. Bellator. That wasn't a big money event. I mean the closest connection to "hey, this is what we want" is PFL signed Ngannou who was the legit UFC champ when he left the UFC and he just fought Fury and was about to fight Anthony Joshua. However, Ngannou himself wasn't on that show. I think Bivol vs. Beterbiev is probably lower on that totem pole as well cause those guys really aren't big stars (Beterbiev is kinda a star in Canada, but a lower level star compared guys of the past). They just wanted to make the fight happen. The concerts, yes, were just a revolving door for tourism. However, you start stealing fights from Atlantic City and the Hilton and Caesars in Vegas, then you're were dead serious because those weren't cheap.

    And that's not to say Andre wouldn't have been a get cause he was a big star. However, if that was the case, they probably would have went over to South Africa before they actually did several year later.

    However, I am guessing the point is whether they viewed WWF as just another entertainment attraction or a real live sporting event and how much Hulkamania transcended pop culture worldwide.

    They didn't really steal fights from Las Vegas(AC didn't really become a player for big fights until later in the 80's) they had Coetzee fights since he was South African and non-marquee weight divisions like cruiserweight, those fights would be off strip at places like the Showboat or during the afternoon at some random arena so it could be on CBS or ABC.

    Hogan did work Sun City against Terry Funk in 1982, the poster is floating around the internet, it was playing off his Rocky III fame. I don't think the WWF was even on South African tv back then, remember they didn't get television until 1976 and what they did get was limited since the government controlled it. Vince most likely never had to deal with that dilemma since they didn't have tv there, even then I don't think he'd ship Hogan off for a random payday when he was drawing huge houses in North American arenas, he pulled Hogan from New Japan and never sent him overseas until business was down after the Gulf War angle.

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  10. 12 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    That's what is compelling though. When it comes to sportswashing, the folks in control only tend to want the biggest names possible. For example, a story I saw last night for an upcoming card between Dmitry Bivol vs. Artur Beterbiev, the undercards going to be a best of five between Matchroom (Eddie Hearn's promotional outfit) vs. Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions. That itself is amazing cause it would be like, "hey, pro wrestling folks, can we get WWE vs. AEW matches...I know you're direct competitors as can be, but make it happen." Then next thing is the guy who has been the lead for Saudi Arabia is obsessed with heavyweight boxing (and said as much in the story) and is responsible for choosing a couple of those matchups of the 5 vs. 5 series. And his love for HW boxing is reflected over the last year and change cause we have had Fury vs. Ngannou, Joshua vs. Ngannou, a stacked multi-promotional end of the year card last year, and a bunch more coming like the Bivol vs. Beterbiev and Fury vs. Usyk. The one good thing is they are somehow able to untangle years of promotional beefs and even political issues (i.e. WBC allowing a Russian in Bivol to fight for a WBC title that Beterbiev holds when they refused to let Russians to fight for their titles since the Ukraine conflict started). However, it's backed with all the bad that comes with it.

    I don't see a scenario where they request Hogan and then Vince comes back with everyone EXCEPT Hogan. And then they accept it.

    What was going on with Sun City in the 80's was totally different than what Saudi Arabia is doing today. Remember Sun City was basically a casino/golf resort similar to what you'd see in Las Vegas at the time, that's why the majority of acts they were booking like Frank Sinatra and Liza Minnelli were also playing Vegas and Atlantic City, they had boxing for the same reason Las Vegas does, it brings in the high rollers. Yes the South African government was using what was going on in Sun City to improve their image, but they weren't throwing around the type of money Saudi Arabia is today, it was more "see Dolly Parton" is preforming at our version of the Desert Inn or there's a big fight at our version of Caesars Palace.

  11. 30 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I really wonder if had WWF been doing more international touring then if the Sun City Super Bowl would have been destination for WWF. I say that because boxing in the early half of the 80s, there was some interesting developments to say the least. I believe one of the first integrated sporting events in South Africa was a world heavyweight title fight with Gerrie Coetzee vs. "Big" John Tate in 1979(!). That drew 86,000 people. Then, the next two times Coetzee fought in South Africa in world title bouts (one another failed attempt to win a world title and the other as champion), both were at the Sun City Super Bowl during the height of the controversy of international artists performing there. Now boxing has a long history of sports washing prior to that (Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila being the most famous examples), but the way Coetzee's promoter at the time Bob Arum justified it is was, "well, I mean this is going to be above board and on the level". So you had black South Africans there with Afrikaners. However, the first several rows was just the latter. Even Rock Newman pre Riddick Bowe took Dwight Muhammad Qawi over to South Africa to fight for a cruiserweight title at Sun City Super Bowl in 1985. So you have this weird thing where African-Americans like Qawi, Tate, and Mike Weaver are going over to fight in a place where a bunch of black people are being brutally oppressed and under the thumb of a racist government. It's kinda like WWE bringing over female wrestlers to Saudi Arabia, talking about progression and growth, and then they still have to cover up.

    If some South African hotel magnate would have thrown money at Vince to do Hogan vs. whomever, would Vince have moved on doing a deal?

    Larry Holmes refused to fight Coetzee in Sun City, when they decided to have the fight in Las Vegas the financial backing fell through.

    It would have taken a lot of money for Vince to let Hogan go over to South Africa, the WWF's house show business with Hogan on top was printing money, that's pretty much the reason Hogan stopped doing the New Japan tours. I could see Vince sending Andre, Studd and a mishmash of low carders over though.

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  12. 6 hours ago, odessasteps said:

    I doubt they thought Doc was washed up if the plan to have him feud with Austin …. Once he won Brawl for All. But the best laid schemes of mice and men and all that.

    i can see bringing him back after that (when he was heel JR’s muscle) as making a mercy booking by JR. 

    Doc's jock sniffers in the company like JR, Pritchard and Corny are the only ones pushing the Doc was going to feud with Austin take, I'm sure they were constantly in Vince's ear about it but it was never going to happen. Austin was super selective on who he worked with during that time and vetoed Jarrett, Gunn, and maybe a few others, that's why he had so many ppv main events against Undertaker and Foley up to his time off for the neck surgery. Also, if Vince has final say and he totally would have gone with someone that was his "own" creation like Billy Gunn not big in Japan broken down Doc. 

  13. 18 hours ago, HumanChessgame said:

    Since everything gets a spinoff, prequel, and reboot nowadays I don't see why they don't just do a Moneypenny spinoff. You could even do an M prequel and have Judi Dench bookend it by telling a newly minted 00 Moneypenny about what it's like to be a woman in the spy game and go on to do a 60s/70s espionage movie with a young M on her first mission.

    I don't think EON has ever really wanted to do any spin-offs, there was some talk of one with Halle Berry's character from Die Another Day, but I kind of remember that being more just to hype that flick than them actually going through with a spinoff. 

     

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