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4 hours ago, JLowe said:
Jack Perry is probably not even a top 20 talent in AEW currently
That might be generous too. If I never see him again, the only thing I will remember about him is how I marveled at his ability to pull Anna Jay despite having less charisma than a cardboard box.
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27 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:
meanwhile in AEW Drama... Sammy Guevara got suspended over the Jeff Hardy match
Why suspend him and not send him somewhere to get trained on how to work more safely?
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1 hour ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:
Did they explain why Ian was doing commentary? Like I said, I was almost an hour late into the show. I'm always in favor of more Ian on commentary.
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On 11/16/2023 at 5:24 AM, Norwegian Rudo said:
The "respected pro" or whatever he said doesn't sound like her. That makes me think Chris Hero or something.
He said one of the best wrestlers in the world, a pro that is known and respected by virtually every AEW fan.
Chris Hero isn’t one of the best wrestlers in the world and on the biggest platform he’s ever been on, he was just a jobber to the stars and under a different name.
That would fit the pattern of Tony Khan over grossly hyping his signings, so it could be.
If it is though at some point Tony Khan has to realize he’s doing a huge disservice to the debuting wrestler by hyping them up to such an extent that fans are expecting bigger name wrestlers than the debuting wrestler.
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2 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
I know it doesn't make sense to just blurt out Ospreay picked AEW. "ABP. Always be promoting." But the way it's worded doesn't really leave room for anyone else. I'm sure they'll be a swerve of some sort and two people signed or Ospreay "won't sign" or whatever. But this one isn't leaving room for much speculation.
Since he’s still under contract with NJPW until February (I think), I thought this was about Mercedes Mone.
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5 hours ago, The Natural said:
I really hope Jack Perry isn't the Devil. Anticlimactic as fuck.
Yeah, he can’t cut a compelling promo, has no charisma, and is just another guy in the ring. So not only would the reveal be lame but the angle wouldn’t deliver.
Honestly, Tony Khan would be smart to just cut him loose and use the extra money that would add to his budget to make Mercedes Mone an offer she can’t refuse since AEW needs stars that aren’t in their 50’s.
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Just now, SprintingFromAmerica said:
Good chance I'm going to regret asking this, but who is the Elite buddy accused of mistreating underage girls?
Marty Scurl and Joey Ryan…I think that’s his name the guy that did “penis suplexes” as a finisher, shocking he’d turn out to be a creep, huh?
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11 minutes ago, Firebreaker Chip said:
A clip from this was on one of the recent Botchamanias and it reminded me that even though I prefer Punk's vision of wrestling to most of the rest of the AEW roster, there's a decent chance he's still a garbage human being
If that sort of stuff was the root of the Elite beef with him I could understand it, but it's not like Cabana wasn't sitting there with him yukking it up too
Considering how badly some of the buddies of “the elite” mistreated women (and underage girls), I’m pretty confident CM Punk being a cad was not the source of their conflict.
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1 hour ago, A_K said:
They've booked away 40% of their overall audience peak-to-trough & approaching 50% of their demo. It is absolutely catastrophic booking. TBS can give them all the television time they want: the numbers don't lie, and if they continue on this trajectory (which they will, without fundamental changes in management personnel), then it'll be whoever is building the network around this product & allowing these decisions to continue whose head goes on to the pike next (a la Kellner pulling WCW when he came in).
Yep, that’s one of many reasons they need CM Punk back. You have to have actual stars to bring in enough people to make new stars.
You can’t just put people you want to be stars in main event positions and have them magically turn into stars.
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4 hours ago, Infinit said:
LOVED Jay White vs Komander. And love that AEW can give us awesome random matches like this. Popped huge for Starks making the save.
I think the Jericho/Cole match was really good. I liked how they bled Brit vs Outcasts to it...but where were the babyfaces from the back to help Brit and Cole? It's something that TK has been pretty good with this in the past. Where was Riho and her pipe? Don't the Bucks like Adam Cole anymore?
Adam Cole lead a beat down of the Young Bucks the last time they were on tv together, so them not coming to help makes sense from a storyline continuity perspective.
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49 minutes ago, Casey said:
Let’s see the evidence and not just dirt sheet stuff then?
I remember going WTF when he described Al Snow’s penis in one of his books when I was a kid. That was pretty perverted and unnecessary.
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1 minute ago, Andrew POE! said:
That's a better promo than what MJF could come up with. I didn't watch the latest promo/video on YouTube with MJF because I'm at the 'waiting until TK sees the ratings take a dump with MJF and pulls the title off of him' phase. MJF would be great doing a show at a gym in Sherman Oaks CA with 100 people at this point. He's just not ready nor will he ever be.
Jeff Jarrett blasted Max Caster on his podcast and said his trainers at Create A Pro were terrible but maybe he should have lumped MJF in there too (unless MJF is being all buddy buddy with Jarrett which is blinding him).
You would have preferred MJF cut a promo full of factual inaccuracies?
The cool heel is a lame archetype that needs to be excised from wrestling. The NWO was novel and interesting in the late 90’s but not anymore. Heels should be obnoxious, annoying, and you should be itching for them to get their asses kicked.
But if he does go to Sherman Oaks, hopefully he takes the Young Bucks with him. Since they clearly don’t draw ratings, have matches with contrived spots that make a mockery of the rules, have terrible off and on selling, and turn Kenny Omega (who like him or not is a star in Japan) into a goober on American television.
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20 minutes ago, mystman said:
In hindsight, I think it's weird that any of us actually believed Mercedes would be there. Why on Earth would Bushiroad let her make he post-WWE in ring debut on an AEW show, when they have a sold out show in San Jose in a couple of weeks featuring her vs. KAIRI?
It’s weird that in December Tony Khan would unnecessarily book a mystery tag partner—as challenged by the heels for a match in January (when Mercedes was a free agent) only for it to be a girl on the roster that had been previously involved in confrontations with her. And to then let Britt make the boss references in her promo.
They not only didn’t dissuade fans from thinking that, they leaned into teasing it.
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22 hours ago, Dog said:
I'm just curious what it is people connect with. The straight edge part? Something else? Surely there must be at least one specific thing you can articulate? I swear I'm not trying to come after you here; just trying to get to something tangible to help me understand.
Sorry, just noticed this part. So you think Hangman Page is an empty-headed dumb fuck who's never done anything in wrestling? And that the Bucks leaked stuff about Cabana to the sheets, even though every sheet-writer swears they didn't?
Hangman had the most forgettable title run in AEW history and he was only even in that position because he carried the young bucks bags for years prior to AEW.
Then he alienated the biggest (by far) draw in the company by cutting an awful “shoot” promo most people didn’t even understand.
Then he talks on a podcast about being too stubborn to listen to people that were actually successful in the industry and that are bona fide legends. That’s embarrassing given how unimpressive his resume his and how underwhelming his title run was.
His lack of humility and stupidity will likely end up costing AEW millions in the long run.
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10 minutes ago, SprintingFromAmerica said:
That is in no way demonstrated by a picture of an old dog with missing teeth several months after 'Brawl Out'.
Similarly, the Elite telling their media sycophants who unquestioningly regurgitate their denial it happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen either.
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6 hours ago, just drew said:
-I dug this opener. Mox and Hanger are two of my top five favorite guys right now (Starks, Jungle Boy, Yuta) so seeing them get to run this back is a pure joy. I feel like AEW doesn't do enough "backstage chaos" segments (good ones, anyway), so Mox & Page brawling in the back was even more fun.
-Dax and Danielson did exactly what we all thought; they burned that bitch down. Holy shit was that fun. I saw that Dax said that he and Cash's contracts are up in April. Here's to hoping TK does the smart thing and backs the Brinks truck up to their houses. They have gone from "Hey look, it's those guys from nXt we like" to "how the hell is there ever an AEW show without these guys on it?"
-AR Fox is a joy to watch. I saw him numerous times at ACTION Wrestling in my hometown of Tyrone, Ga. He rules and Joe rules. Wardlow/Joe is going to be carnage.
-For whatever reason, Hager's obsession with that bucket hat is exactly the brand of horseshit that I love.
-This MJF segment is.. something. I think I figured out what my issue with Max is. He burns through material so fast. He's incredibly inefficient with his cheap heat. He could get a reaction with 10-15% of what he does. It also seemed like the crowd was mic'ed funny, as they went from super hot to crickets almost arbitrarily. I do think TK has a problem on his hands, and AEW can't afford to hemorrhage viewers while MJF cosplays Papa H. The easiest solution would be to have Mox whip his ass at the next PPV, but I have a feeling all this is gonna take some serious course correction. I don't see how TK can let Regal leave while saying "no" to Malakai, Buddy and Andrade. Someone said it earlier, but when you compare MJF to someone like Christian, and it becomes very easy to see how valuable tv experience is. I'd seriously consider having Christian and Luchasaurus (probably unmasked and retooled) join MJF. He'd benefit so much from having a polished tv presence with him every week.
-Ricky Starks, again, is everything guys like MJF wish they were; effortlessly believable and cool. I'd think long and hard about Starks taking the title off of MJF. There's too many guys who would do well as champ in AEW to let MJF do this "2024" schtick forever and ever. Also, Stokely is awesome and Ethan Page has really plateaued. I think he's a super talented guy, but this intense heel thing is not in his wheelhouse. He comes off so likable in his vlogs that I think he should just embrace it fully.
-Willow Nightingale is one of the rarest things in pro wrestling; a naturally likable babyface that gets the reaction she's trying to. She's really great and TK was smart to lock her down when he did. I think her signing, along with Bandido's, RUSH's, and AR Fox's, is signaling a return to what AEW was doing really well; highlighting the best indy talent in the world while building their show around select stars. Anna JAS has regressed, and as I said before, I think working a few house shows a month would do wonders for her, if she can stay healthy. Ruby is a sentimental favorite and I was very happy to see her return. I thought her booking was pretty poor before her injury and I hope they've figured out something for her to do. I'd love to see a title reign in her future.
-God am I tired of hearing Britt Baker talk.
-Jade Cargill is a star. She has the "IT factor" by the bucketload. She is exactly who she says she is and who TK is portraying her on tv. Having said that, I think she would really benefit from having a "hype man" type around her. Someone to say all the standard wrestling things, freeing up Jade to talk about how awesome she is. Very, very happy to see Red Velvet. We'll say it's because I missed her ring work. It's not true, but we'll say that's why.
-Am I.... enjoyin this best of 7 series? Yes. Yes I think I am. The Elite entrance is super cool with the "Carry On Wayward Son," and I'm impressed that they managed to offer a completely different match structure here. I'm still not convinced doing that 4 more times is smart, and I'm glad they're taking a week off, but Nicholas, Matthew, and Kenjamin are SO much more palatable to me when they aren't the focal point of every show. I still wonder how much having the show built around those guys hindered AEW's growth during that period. Anyway, really good shit here.
All in all, this show has been like every AEW show the last month or so; some good, some bad. I'd be very tempted to build around Hangman and Mox for the foreseeable future, but I understand why Tony feels like he has to find out what he has with MJF before committing to him long-term. It's smart from a sports perspective and a business perspective. However, he cannot be as shy about course correcting as he has been in the past. I'm looking forward to watching the next phase in Ricky Starks' development, and hope this is just the start for guys like him and Jungle Boy and so much of AEW's young talent.
Why would you put the title back on Moxley when the ratings decline started with him as champion?
One show he appeared on didn’t work for you, so you want to go back to something that wasn’t working?
MJF should at least get a chance to feud with someone who is interesting and not a rehash of an old feud.
And like him or not (I personally don’t) the fact of the matter is that the only person on the roster that can actually pop a rating is CM Punk.
And that bridge was probably burned by the Elite (by the way he posted pics of his dog today and damage was done.). But maybe Tony Khan will decide he likes making money more than being friends and that the Elite only appeal to a niche audience, so decide to bring Punk back regardless of the teeth gnashing it might cause in the locker room.
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14 minutes ago, DreamBroken said:
So Regal's made to look a complete idiot for what he did now, and that's why I hated the turn in the first place. Screwed over Moxley for nothing. The promo itself felt like it went on forever without actually explaining why the whole thing happened and more just going over what had happened. The one thing I did like about the segment is that they made a point to explain all the BCC guys not being there (Moxley ejected from the building, Claudio & Yuta in Nashville, Bryan in the trainers room after his match) If nothing else, I can at least dig it as a reason behind MJF vs. Bryan
Bryan/Dax ruled as expected. Joe/Fox was fun. Loved the Hangman/Moxley brawl, that felt big time.
BIG pop for the return of Ruby Soho! Destination Unnnnnnknown! Perfect time to bring her back in her home state. Welcome back Ruby & Hangman
The Best of 7 is the best. Love all of this. Also loving Carry on My Wayward Son as the entrance theme, just adds an extra bit of epic to it all. Nice for Kenny to get to do his old Goodbye & Goodnight again.
How Regal looks isn’t a concern, MJF being such an insufferable bastard that he can’t even share the spotlight with people who helped him was the point. so that all of the AEW fans that were cheering for him a couple of weeks detest him.
I predict a very long title reign for him in which he’s constantly threatening to leave for WWE with the title until he is dethroned by someone the fans have gotten behind to save AEW from the indignity of having its title thrown in the trash on Raw.
The only disappointment of that segment was that the Burberry title wasn’t actually very noticeable, if they we’re going to do that they should have gone all out.
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5 hours ago, S.K.o.S. said:
Meltzer is saying he never heard anything about Larry being hurt from either side. Seems to think it's made up.
There would only be a few people who would have noticed since it would have proceeded the melee. The majority of those people had a gag order put on them by their employer. And Punk might have had to get surgery on his triceps, so his priorities could have been on other things than managing the media narrative.
And Tony Khan’s crack investigators apparently didn’t even bother interviewing Ace Steel’s wife (who was reportedly in the room) So I think Tony Khan might have realized he was paying millions to a 45 year old pain in the ass that has already had two major injuries, and paid to get the outcome he wanted.
Also, it’s been repeatedly demonstrated that Meltzer just regurgitates things he’s told and doesn’t check with the people involved.
Anyway, I don’t really mind Kenny Omega but no Young Bucks has been refreshing. I’m already dreading the return of their terrible acting in cringe backstage segments. Ugh.
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17 hours ago, TheVileOne said:
The moniker itself, I mean correct me if I'm wrong, and the derogatory remarks seemed like one big in-joke to me. I can't find the original tweet, but they wouldn't have tweeted that if they really thought they were trash and didn't truly respect them.
How did they avoid them like the plague? They wrestled each other multiple times, the matchups were critically acclaimed. Not to mention, they put over FTR big time in the rematch.
They said in their interview with Jim Cornette after their release that they had no relationship with the Bucks, the Bucks never contacted them and they were confused and insulted by it.
The tweet you posted is just good business since there was fan interest in the match. But it’s not clear that was the Bucks intent.
FTR debuted saving the Bucks instead of confronting them. After FTR dropped the titles to them they turned heel.
The expectation was this could be a modern version Midnight Express vs the Rock and Roll Express but instead it’s been rushed together matches.
It’s possible that Tony Khan just fumbled the booking and didn’t give the fans what they wanted.
Just like it’s possible good friend of the Bucks, Adam Page came to the conclusion that Punk ran Cabana out of town and decided to allude to that in a promo on his own.
But it’s also fair to be skeptical given all the dots you can connect.
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45 minutes ago, TimLivingston said:
Omega and the Bucks have been sources to Meltzer for years. They can deny they did anything specific regarding Punk/Page, but they absolutely have fed him things for quite a while. I think assuming they’ve been tight-lipped throughout this entire saga is assuming quite a lot.
And Punk did what he did the way he did it because Page did it the way he did it. Tit for tat. Punk is a fickle asshole and because he felt he was blindsided, he figures the recourse would be to do the same to him. Not defending it because it’s bullshit all of it happened in the first place but whatever.
The other thing I’m happy to point out here is that there’s a long history of the Elite going into business for themselves because they knew they were on top, both with promos and booking decisions. It’s the whole reason the damn YT show exists in the first place. To jab away at that notion and poke fun and be tongue-in-cheek. So for them to all of a sudden feel like they’re being wronged because someone is doing what they’re used to doing but with more vitriol behind it is a bit funny to me. Hence my comment earlier about these two being made for each other.
Yes, this is a good point. FTR got that moniker because the Young Bucks started making derogatory statements about them when they started getting praised despite apparently not even knowing them.
And then they’ve avoided them like the plague and there have been numerous questionable booking decisions for them in AEW.
I’ve also heard people didn’t want to take penis suplexes from their rapist friend but did it because they were afraid of the Bucks black balling them.
Anyway, I can see Punk quitting if they fire Steele but I can’t imagine Tony Khan getting rid of his top draw and champion. Especially, not for people that only appeal to a niche audience and who were responsible for some of the worst parts of AEW, such as the Dark Order jobber punch gate, Joey Janela being on national tv, Marko Stunt being on national tv, etc
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2 hours ago, Log said:
The job of a pro wrestling commentator is to put over what is happening on the screen. It’s not to respect the intelligence of the viewers. It’s nice if they can do both, of course.
The issue with JR isn’t that he messes up sometimes. That happens to even the best in any sport. The issue with JR is that he actively shits on what is happening on screen and makes comments that his colleagues cannot respond to. That’s not being a good commentator.
JR is a legend in wrestling and deserves to be viewed as so, but he is not performing at the same quality that he once did. Even if someone is a legend in their field, you bench them when they start hindering the team.
Sure, but you can’t effectively put over what is happening to the audience if you don’t have credibility with them.
And you don’t have credibility when you insult the intelligence of the viewers by trying to cover up mistakes with blatantly obvious lies.
Also, because JR is always obviously giving his honest opinion (even if in cantankerous fashion), when he says something positive it means more.
It’s also the job of the wrestlers to make what is happening in the ring believable and to give the commentators something to work with, so they can help tell the story. It’s gotten better but there are still too many that don’t seem to get that in AEW.
JR is arguably the greatest announcer of all time that has called the matches of some of the greatest wrestlers in history. You’d probably be a little cranky if after calling Steamboat Flair and Austin Hart, you had to be exposed to incredibly stupid things like Marko Stunt wrestling on national television, and goofs who can’t even keep track of where the camera is when they do something that exposes them.
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9 minutes ago, Belgian_Waffle said:
I am usually naive enough to blindly follow Dave's inclinations but this is the first time I'm really just not seeing how this isn't a worked shoot, especially with the ppv main event being moved to Wednesday. He's kind of hedging his own bets with some of the circular logic he applies in this clip too: "I reported on it because it's a major story and it wouldn't be a major story if I hadn't reported on it", "it's not a worked shoot but if it suddenly becomes one and we're all none the wiser that would be a good idea".
Meltzer’s reporting was corroborated by Sean Ross Sapp. Given his recent laziness in reporting, it’s believable that he could get work. But Sapp has been pretty spot on from what I’ve seen. Also, Colt Cabana did disappear.
Maybe they’ll turn into an angle with Hangman because of the buzz its created online but I don’t think what Punk did to Hangman was planned.
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22 hours ago, JLowe said:
Excalibur covers for botched moves, JR points them out.
So JR is honest and respects the intelligence of the viewers while Excalibur does not.
@Dog Excalibur has really been struggling recently.
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37 minutes ago, Jiji said:
I would have loved to see what went down between Ross and Khan after he went from scaling Ross' involvement from two hours a week to one and then to all three fucking hours of weekly television content. Ross stated that he wants to work until 2024 making it 50 years in wrestling. I found this amusing quote last night when talking with friends about how long we'd have to endure Ross:
He seems very entitled to say the least, which is unsurprising based on his commentary.
I don’t think telling people that do nothing but look for excuses to shit on him (I always find it odd how Excalibur calling someone the wrong name or fumbling his words doesn’t elicit even half of the outrage JR doing it does from the commentary critics) off and having a goal to achieve something impressive is entitled.
It’s probably more realistic to say that this goal is giving him a reason to continue to live.
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AEW - MARCH 2024
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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Being the son of a famous person doesn’t make you famous. Being an irrelevant cog that nobody misses in a wrestling company with 750K core audience also doesn’t make you famous.
The implication that Anna Jay would be after his daddy’s money is unfounded and women dating men because they’re rich is a misogynistic trope unfairly used to malign women.
The “it’s the hair” guy above was more helpful and his comment was actually funny.