BloodyChamp
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Wow the Dory Funk Jr 1wrestling column. That was many people’s first dose of old wrestler who discovered the internet medicine. RIP Adam Windsor. I remember many of those columns being ignored on that very busy message board except for those. People sure said what they thought about that situation.
Is Don Lebarba still around?
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So Scott really has conceded the whole BPP gimmick. Wow. And in this article he even talks about how it was just a gimmick with little bits of frustration poking out, like most wrestling gimmicks. That article is the most words I’ve ever heard Scott the actual person say, even more than in his shoots (he was still protecting his character then).
And to my point about just how good BPP was. Even Jim Cornette goes right to BPP when the question is about the Steiner Brothers. BPP was so good that his alltime great tag team is an afterthought in comparison to that character.
I’m saving the induction for a rainy day along with The Undertaker’s. I saw the Tweet with Vince above. That’s 100% appropriate IMO and just plain great. I love the WWE HoF I don’t care what anybody says. They run the mfer like they want to and it’s great. The Skysrapers and the Steiner both in on the same day wow, yet they’re both overshadowed by their next gimmick.
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I distinctly remember a Mike Rotunda promo from CWF that was alltime bad, and at the end of it he threw his hands up and said something just far enough away from the mic so we couldn’t hear it. I’ll have to see if I can find it.
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I couldn’t do it. The top 300 luchadores could all be good picks anywhere on the top 10 list. That’s how many good ones there were and they were all that good.
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2 hours ago, driver said:
Is that the "Randy Hales smokes crack" promo?
Yep lol
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What’s everybody’s opinion on the last Doug Gilbert promo in Memphis? I won’t post it just in case it’s to much but I only recently noticed that Tommy Rich mentioned something we recently made a list of promos with that was overshadowed by what Doug said. That thread was locked but we were listing promos that mentioned steroids lol! Tommy Rich with a bomb before the nuke.
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On 8/29/2013 at 10:18 PM, Territorial said:
Was watching this a bit earlier and got nostalgic for the bad promo thread.
From USWA, the video debut of the Dream Warriors. Three awful promos for the price of one.
Bumping this up laughing after this thread was referenced in the “worst/family” thread and I came to check out post number 1. I always thought a clean cut tag team called The Dream Warriors that came out to the Dokken album version of the song would have been epic.
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6 hours ago, clintthecrippler said:
My favorite variant of this tried-and-true joke was Paul E. in WCW 1991 during a WCW Patriots match:
"Mr. and Mrs. Chip had nine months and the best they came up with was FIREBREAKER?"
I remember Paul E. singing a song that Johnny B Badd wrote and it was hilarious. You read right. Paul E...singing...Johnny B Badd.
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On 10/18/2013 at 1:56 PM, cool arrow said:
No love for Doug Gilbert?
Is he hated because of what he did in 1998 during that interview? I always thought he was great. He wasn’t that different from Eddie who just happened to be who caught the break booking for Bill Watts. That was really the only time a Gilbert ever stayed in one place. Them boys just didn’t do that.
EDIT: reading through this thread I think it’s obvious that a bunch of these guys were great. It was just a matter of catching the break or not back when brothers rassled everywhere.
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I just saw the Steve Harvey, Kevin and JJ episode. Some of the corniest, silliest mess I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen alot of TV produced by Kevin Sullivan! And JJ Dillion was the kayfabe producer for alot of it. How freaking WCW of a thing is that, still living on.
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I just heard about Rocky King. He was also in a current storyline once more than mentioned IIRC with JYD vs the Horsemen. He was special because he was one face that a certain group of fans saw every week, whose faced scratched that rasslin itch. That group of fans was.........us people who only got Worldwide and the Pro lol! And a great guy by all accounts. Obviously that article covered it but he also comes up in shoots and podcasts sometimes.
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If anybody has been through all the FB, Twitter, etc comments...like it or not Big Poppa Pump is even bigger than the Steiner brothers! Everybody goes right to BPP. Me included. My first thought was Scott with a live mic holy cow. Then I started thinking that he had to concede the character for this to happen. Then I started thinking crap I hope he’s not about to die like the Warrior. I would pay $100 to hear a live BPP pipe bomb, and I don’t really pay for wrestling related things of any kind anymore. BPP was that good of a heel and if he does concede then double cross them on the mic when he gets it in his hands he has a case as a top 5 heel ever IMO.
Now...saying he was bigger than the tag team isn’t a knock on the tag team. I freaking love the Steiner Brothers. So many great matches of so many kinds, wild promos even back then, comedy relief, scared the Road Warriors off of whatever continent they were on for all those years. I mean how badass is that?
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a belly to belly truly from the top rope. One guy is usually on the second rope. I did see it tried and the 2 guys almost died doing it. It was RVD and Jerry Lynn so of course they hopped right back up as soon as the smell of death went away. I don’t know how I forgot about this because that was a move I always wanted to see somebody try. And it was by 2 guys I’d have never thought would even be in the ring together let alone trying this, successfully.
What a great TV match. Up there with the best ones Nitro had for so long. It was stiff as heck to. Everybody saw the power moves I bet but also Meng’s feet weren’t planted for a single one of the flying attacks and they went WHAM lol!
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I still say him destroying Hogan in 5 minutes after falling off the Joe Louis Arena would have worked from every angle. Short term it would have made the fans who were tired of Hogan mark out like they never had, and it would have legit scared everybody else. Long term he could have beat everybody without whoever he beat losing any heat. Then whoever beat him would have been the best babyface champion since Hulk Hogan in the WWF.
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1 hour ago, Ziggy said:
People laugh about the amount of times Big Show turned in his career. I think most people just think of his WWE run and maybe his first year in WCW. Just reflecting on his WCW run as a whole alone, I forget how many times he turned. Even being "The World's Latgest athlete " One of the most physically impressive guys at that size ,always turning on people and aligning with the top faction or siding with the evil heel authority figure really made him seem like so much less of a threat than he should have been. He was in the NWO more than once in WCW which is crazy considering he started out in the Dungen of Doom when that was the top faction first
And I think he jobbed to Goldberg more than anybody as all that was going on. That’s a hell of WCW thing. Being the biggest mfer out there whose also the biggest jobber.
EDIT: I actually remember something in particular that was so dang bad. The Giant came out on Nitro some time close to Starrcade 98 and said he still wanted wanted Nash. Since he wanted Nash, that meant he had to beat Goldberg to get Nash (at Starrcade). Then he said if Goldberg had the balls to wrestle him he would that night. And they silenced out balls.
That was a 7’4” tall man made out of steel and he’s standing there explaining something like Jack Webb would. The one non automated part was how he was dancing around just challenging Nash since you can walk out on a live wrestling show and challenge whoever you want.
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We about need a Good Promos That Are Not How to Cut a Promo thread.
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Wow I never knew about that quote. It reminds me of the time Hogan blamed Benoit and Malenko’s first to last segment on Nitro on the alltime low ratings for his last segment/main event. They’re that much alike.
How about in the months leading to Starrcade that you mentioned, when he booked himself to win WWIII by eliminating that ring full of jobbers in 2 minutes while the announcers sold it like it was SCSA winning the Royal Rumble?
Now he’s doing the wise old man gimmick in shoots and podcasts like he ever cared about anybody or anything but himself. He’s not the first guy to do this with 20 20 hindsight or anything but for some reason him doing it disgusts me. I can’t believe how many people buy it.
Then every now and then when somebody throws him a hardball his old self comes out and he says HUHHYUCK YOU MAD DAT I MADE MONEYZ AND I BETTERZ DAN RICKY MORTON! Ricky Morton must have banged this guy’s mama. Just like he’s second only to Hogan at being Hogan, he’s second only to Jim Cornette at hating a mfer. Jim Cornette’s hatred of Vince Russo is the only hate stronger than Nash’s of Ricky Morton.
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Lex Luger could have a Kamala sized funny old wrestler on social media postprime if he ran with that idea IMO. I also believe he could have had full blown resurgence like The Iron Sheik did when his T-Shirt incident happened around the same time.
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So as usual, the initial pop was huge. The payoff was...WCW.
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That definitely got a pop lol and I think it was discussed in good taste on like page 2. Maybe a couple people missed it but I compared him to the Von Erich boys at the end. He was still great, especially when he showed up, but that wasn’t every night and people knew the pattern.
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2 hours ago, A_K said:
Great gif to share. His fallaway slam was a thing of beauty. I think he got surprisingly little "pop" when returning to WWF in 2002. I mean, that was only a few years after his height in WCW (I assume that gif may be 98?) but next to nothing of that rabid elation from the late 90s fans was left over. Was it simply because WCW fans didnt carry over to WWF? Because they were not filming shows in WCW territory arenas? Would love to know the mechanics for that falling so flat.
I think it was a few things. The whole angle fell flat really. Flair/UT was good and Rock/Hogan was good but the good didn’t outweigh the bad. Hall caught the raw end of more of it because he was subbing for Hogan vs Austin in many people’s minds. He also had a little late career Von Erich boys thing going on personally. People knew what was going on with him and weren’t as mad at him as they were just over him. I sure wish I could tell that guy what I thought of him now though gosh.
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Came here to blow off a little steam after the Scott Hall thread where this doesn’t belong. Don’t turn Nash face. He doesn’t deserve it. I don’t buy his attitude change 1 bit and I don’t believe anything he says about trying to help people in TNA, that there was a method to the madness as a booker, that he had plans for Rey, etc. Yes he does spin it so that it sure sounds that way but all that tells me is something that I think you’ll agree with, but have never considered.
He was just like Hogan and second only to him. He knows how to tell a dang lie and stick with it, and he’ll do it without even planning to. It just happens whenever he’s backed into a corner. And if it’s a whopper then so what it’s a whopper. He’ll do it every time.
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I think we all knew that this type of thing was possible and probable. We’ve discussed this before concerning other wrestlers and situations. Nobody just up and walks into the daisies somewhere forever fresh out of rehab. Also broken hips often have other bad situations attached to them and that put my radar for this back on. But what sublime said. It doesn’t take away from Hall’s incredible career and contributions to wrestling at this point. Also Hall actually fought his demons. He didn’t just take a paid vacation from them then rejoin the party as soon as it got a little rough. I respect that regardless of how it ended.
I think Waltman is doing the right thing but I would want to know a little more about it and what his real motivation is behind doing this before I made a final judgement with him.
I’ve had my fill of Nash though actually. I referred to an example why before and don’t need to say it again, and I just don’t buy his attitude change in general.
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Also I have no idea what I’ve done with this double post lol! So I’ll add 1 more thing that just so perfectly, ironically, and unironically explains how great Hall was and how it relates to how messed up WCW was.
All this talk about doing business and how Hall was the best at it...you know who was the first guy to finally lose to Sting like they were supposed to? Yep Hall. Went right out there and did business the FIRST time. First guy to lose to the Steiners in that awesome, underrated match that’s overshadowed by the fact that the rest of that show didn’t quite work out. Then even dusted himself off and went out there and lost to Goldberg just so Hogan didn’t have to do that by himself. Sting and the Steiners. The top face and the top team face. Then of course Goldberg was the top face by then. Nobody else did it but him. And he was awesome for it.
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I’ve never seen either of those shows. Are they on DVD somewhere?