BloodyChamp

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The Dynamite Kid talked about being introduced to straight crack by JYD which was way before WCW. A more interesting documentary would be about JYD’s days before WCW and WWF. They wouldn’t have to try to hard to fabricate some doomy nasty stuff from those times if that just has to be a part of things. I hope they don’t go where it looks like they’re going with Adonis. Wrestlers who act like girls have been getting booed since the beginning of time. None of them were gay gimmicks. If Adonis was then I missed it, which is possible since I didn’t match alot of WWF. What I always got from the gimmick was just more of the same kind of heat that Brother Love, Johnny B Badd, etc got. I’ve met George Clinton more than once. I’m pretty good friends with 1 of his immediate family members.

I still miss it and love it. And Kid Rock is al fuckin right with me to after I couldn’t stand him at the time. And that’s the greatest WCW music video or montage ever made.

Bret vs Ricky is on The Best There Is, Was, and Will Be DVD set. Here’s 1 that’s neat to go back and watch as some kind of smart fan or whatever we are. It’s some of the sloppiest work but because it was 6 of the best anytime, anywhere on the card type guys in 1 ring the sloppy slack was accounted for every time. All of the timing was off on the moves but whoever was getting the move done to them was able adjust or oversell or whatever they had to do. Those backdrops all but the last 1 by Dustin, the guy had to roll through it late on his own. On the crossbody Steve went way to high to early but James was able to lean back and catch him somehow. Really solid work...to make up for the sloppy work lol!

IIRC the thread we had about wrestling themed TV episodes got locked. II also RC The Beverly Hillbillies didn’t come up. I’ve been watching this at my convenience for a couple months I think since it started coming on a local TV channel late at night. I’d seen it before obviously but never just sat down and watched it. This is actually a pretty well written show that’s funny, that has continuity every week lol! I don’t know what the occasion is but it’s on now and they had a wrestling episode that has carried over to the next episode that I’m watching now.

1:27 I’ve been looking for that for a long time. That was a hilarious addition to a great oldschool promo. The bad guys teaming up to try and beat the good guys and the random bad guy announcer stepping in to keep them focused. It’s no wonder so many of them used to be managers.

Muta really was freaking great. And the mist will always get a pop, just as sure as Ric Flair saying Whooo will. He could do it from a wheelchair at age 100 and people would erupt. I wish Sting could have inducted him. The Sting vs Muta feud is 1 of the great mysteries that I wish we could get a look at. They wrestled against and with each other their whole careers. They were always feuding in kayfabe and it only ended just now I’m assuming (I don’t watch AEW). I’ve never heard them talk about each other. Heck I’d never heard Muta talk until I watched the clip on YouTube just now. Did he ever actually talk somewhere? Or is he 1 of the last wrestlers to manage not to? It was part of what made him so badass. A simple walk down the aisle is all he has to do to be taken seriously. Then he built on it in the ring by just casually doing stuff we’d never seen right after only doing what we’d seen every wrestler do. He was so not-intense that it was intense. Every punch, kick, and insane wrestling move he did just hit different. I loved it. I don’t know as much about Tim White as most people probably but I think he deserves to go in. I thought the controversial skits were hilarious and original fwiw.

I just heard about Butch. RIP to a great guy, who was part of a great couple of guys in the Bushwhackers. They were the most fan friendly 2 guys ever. They were always up in it with the fans. They didn’t walk by a fan without saying something, especially if it was a child and it usually was. They always had a minute for them. And saying the Bushwhackers were a shame was 1 of the dumbest, most assanine, inane, things THAT WE ALL SAID LOL while trying to sound like some kind of smart wrestling fan. The Bushwhackers were just great. I know all about The Sheepherders but am a little short on their matches. Didn’t Dave vote one 5 stars?

Had to be, although I didn’t think to search Young Pistols so I should probably do that.

Does anybody remember an 8 man tag with the Sid Vicious Horsemen? In it Arn Anderson lost a wrestling sequence and sold it silly like he didn’t usually do. It was something like Flair would have done, only even more silly like Steve Regal or Rip Rogers or somebody being just plain silly in the midcard. Him acting silly in that match was used in bumpers for a long time. I only saw the match 1 day at a friend’s house on what I think was actually the WGN Pro show but I could be wrong on that part. I know I saw it and recognized the Arn Anderson part after having seen the bumpers 100 times. Googling I found The Horsemen vs The Southern Boys, Tim Horner and Allen Iron Eagle which might have been it. I can’t find a video of it or any other Horsemen 8 Man’s from the time.

I know scripted skits aren’t how to cut a promo, or at least not this crowd’s tastes in promos but when done right they’re hits IMO. This was done right. You can miss the 100 historical references in this whole thing yet still be sold on the whole thing. It was as sleazy and dirty and as accurate of dudes with hoes as the real thing.

That sounds good. I have a match that goes here that I posted before and called it the greatest TV match of alltime by definition of TV match, and not necessarily match that aired on TV in which was broadcasted lol! Aka 10 minutes. Young Eddie and Chris on a whole other level, if you can even imagine an upper level with them. They believed in WCW for a long time even though they wouldn’t admit it. You can tell here. It was everything possible within their 10 minutes.

I think this was on TV. It has commentary lol! https://youtu.be/3mvE55VmPxQ The Sting/Cactus match is on 1 of the Sting DVDs. The WWE DVDs delivered with TV matches really. There will probably be repeats from old threads posted here but so what. This is what we’re here for!

I haven’t gotten around to watching this because I’d checked out by then but this match got repeated by somebody every week who came just to post about it on the old board and all the other old boards. Today it still gets talked about occasionally even. It must have been a killer match. I don’t doubt it. BPP was still good in the ring until the broken foot. I also agree that heel Austin was good once they got over the initial let down. The Benoit feud in particularly was killer. I don’t quite remember how that ended because my life changed somewhere in the middle of it then I don’t think I watched Raw again until Bret Hart came back.

Mahomes is a good comparison because of how he blows it up IMO. He wins, and while his his stats are insane, I don’t think them alone are the reason he wins. He wins because he’s clutch, because he extends plays, and because he takes chances. Not quite as many as Favre, but he’s closer to a Gunslinger than he is a safe player IMO. I’m actually more and more on the fence about MVPs as years go by but not because I’m just trying to blow up everything you’re saying. I’m more on the fence about them for a reason you suggested. The voters are just so dang lazy and it seems like they’re even bigger homers than the fans sometimes. They don’t even look at the other guys on the field and they don’t even acknowledge how obvious it is that the prettiest little quarterback is about to go 1 n done so many times. Granted that wasn’t what happened this year but it was because it was Mahomes who everybody has pegged as the...aw you know lol! I don’t like saying it even now because of how many times I’ve been wrong myself.

I know this part of the discussion has been done to death but you have to look at the era. Stats are inflated and they haven’t even peaked yet. Rodger’s stats will be demolished by Mahomes faster than Montana’s, Favre’s and Marino’s were if it keeps going the way it’s going. We’ve seen quarterbacks with losing seasons in this era break single season records that those guys had. Then there’s the statpadding that goes on. I don’t know Rodgers to have ever done that but others sure have. The 1 record that doesn’t get smashed every week is the TD:INT ratio, but the top 10 single season bests includes Rodgers more than once, some Chiefs quarterback I had to Google named Huard, Josh McCown, Foles, and a recent Brady season. The alltime list is a little better but it has Cousin and Kaep tied at 10 and Dak at 9, and everybody else in the list are quarterbacks who have came into the league since. That’s not a coincidence.

Of course your INT % is insane when you don’t even throw it. He ran 4 straight handoffs in that Seahawks playoff game that the defense got him 5 turnovers in, that also saw Richard Sherman get hurt at the end. Favre attacks that as soon as it happens. Does he win the game? Possibly he does not and possibly it’s because he throws an INT but if those throws are there as a result of Sherman going out he wins it, and he wins it no matter what the wuss coach called to start with. If they’re not there he still atleast goes for it instead of just watching the collapse happen. The only plays Rodgers ever made out of nothing were Hailmarys against the Lions who he can’t even beat ever since they got a pulse. I don’t know who that actually makes the best Packer of alltime but it makes Aaron Rodgers an overrated fraud if you ask me, creep vibe attitude problems he has aside even.

Rodgers isn’t even worth bitching about. He has such basic bitch takes, and he repeats them just so he can hear them in his echo chamber of sorrow, though it’s a teeny bit less sorry as the average dunce like that because he can just blame some random person for him not walking into the enzone or for him not audibling to a pass in a 4 down turnover sequence.

It was just a dig, but I’ll still own it. I did say you’d still have to stretch it, and many who watched the games and don’t go by bare bones stats would agree not by much those last 2 years. He was straight putrid. https://imgur.com/gallery/xaSLBui

There’s always been a guy like Peterman around throughout history. It just doesn’t seem like it because they didn’t become what they now call a meme. You wouldn’t have to stretch it much to say that Kaep was the guy before him for about 2 years. As for Rodgers. I’m still speechless. I can’t believe that quote that just came across my FB about him being the greatest Packer ever and bleeding green and gold.

Hot dang at all the people who could stand to hear that promo today, and I don’t mean people trying to learn how to cut a decent promo lol! I never quit loving Jake. I won’t elaborate but I’ll say that much.

Sid’s as a face in WCW wasn’t terrible. Everything around it was, which in turn made the run terrible but him walking down the aisle to cheers wasn’t what I’d call terrible. Granted that was after the Pandora’s box containing all the ways to make a lead face out of dominating figure had been opened a long time ago. And either way it wasn’t the same as what they were doing with him in 1991.

I’m not 1 of the people who thinks for a minute that Bill Belichik is washed but for meme’s sake, is the AFC East about to have washed Bill, washed Rodgers and washed Brady next year?

The Mr McMahon character really was phenomenal like it or not IMO

What fun we could have had betting on WCW matches