LoneWolf&Subs
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Raven explains it extremely well in interviews. He basically called The Flock a traveling battle royale. Every spot they do when interfering in any match usually ends up with them taking nasty bumps. It’s almost like clockwork. Kidman is the centerpiece for the biggest bumps, and Sick Boy was the master of the Springbboard Nothing.
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I think the Jerry Flynn matches deserved to be added in to Goldberg’s best. Those are were he started to incorporate the Pancrase stuff into his move-set.
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Watching 98 WCW too. Spring Stampede week, and aftermath.
Why the hell did WCW stop booking luchador trios matches? Super Calo, La Parka, and Psychosis cannot work a proper in-ring singles match these people understand without Rey Mysterio guiding them.
Goldberg Vs. Raven is still an amazing well worked match. Raven had been doing similar stuff with The Flock prior to that. This was the groups crowning achievement with all the run-ins into bumps. Another notable thing about the match that never crossed my mind before was that Goldberg doesn’t throw punches. His comeback is usually just countering a guys attack with a big slam, and when he’s in control he’s just tossing them. Rookie monster faces take notes.
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Calf Branding is such a tough move to do without making it look so fake. You need the first few guys to take it face first, and sell it like a career ending injury before you can keep it in your repertoire. The best version of that I’ve see is from the anime manga Kinnikuman. Calf Branding is Terryman’s signature spot. But he usually gets a good hold of a character, and crushes their head like a watermelon sometimes.
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Oh I got out of here before that. I did not like anything about any social media community. Too many psychos with an axe to grind. You see it in public with the passive aggressive attitude, but online is like the raw internal thoughts.
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On 12/23/2022 at 11:23 AM, AxB said:
Did you know that, in WWE tag matches, you can only legally break up a pin ONCE? If you do it again, your team gets disqualified and you lose anyway?
You'd think that they would tell people about that rule, so pin/sub breaks would be a big deal when they happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFGxGhJkjU
Harry Smith confirming it here, 9 years ago.
Tell that to the fucking 2K games.
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Like I said on the other thread Hayter Vs. Shida war was an all-time tv classic for me. These two ladies slugged it out like they owed each other receipts throughout the match. I was actually concerned early on it was going to breakdown because of some undisclosed heat between the two, but it seems this was the plan all along. I would love to see a sequel to this, however I’d prefer if Shida had something else going into it. Like maybe a different motivation, or a new gimmick. Or better yet, a bloody “Last Woman Standing Match”. That would be a great way to get a woman’s match with those two as a PPV main event. Just don’t overdo the gimmicks in it. I think these two don’t need thumbtacks to get nasty.
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There is a reason I haven’t been around here much, don’t read wrestling websites, and stopped listening to wrestling podcasts. It stopped being fun, and it ruined my enjoyment of watching Dynamite. I just came back to see the reactions to this past weeks main event, because that felt like a contender for all-time tv classic. I don’t really need to hear what an old contrarian(Cornette) has to say about the match, or it’s participants anymore.
edit: Funny I just checked another place I haven’t been to in awhile, and still the same fucking broken record bitch fest. Why is it that lucha is the only thing I can follow with news coverage, and it doesn’t bother me?
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I’m not totally sold on Action Andretti, but I see why they think he has potential. He looks body type wise, and sort of wrestles like AJ Styles. I guess that’s the hope for him. But he comes off as very very green. And I do remember a time where I wasn’t completely sold on AJ until maybe when they started taping at the IMPACT Zone. Where he’d come off like a top guy, and worked all the ROH talent that weren’t under contract. Maybe I need that from Action to sell me on him.
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On 12/23/2022 at 11:20 PM, DEAN said:
They should definitely have vignettes of the Top Flight w/AR Fox on a shopping spree.
Yeah, they should be like “Let’s start at Macy’s”, then when they get to the register the cashier will tell them “That’ll be 300,000 Dollars”. “What, but that’s all we won.”
“Yeah honey, it’s called inflation.”
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If anybody sees The Northman this weekend just please answer this question… Is it just another The Revenant? I’ll skip it if it’s just that.
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Will the actor playing Jordan utter the famous line (that nobody can confirm was real, or not) “Republicans buy sneakers, too”?
Edit: Oh wait, he apparently confirmed it.
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Yeah, I would say that. I think people are getting fooled by the emo look. They think that’s supposed to mean deep, and realistic when it’s really A caricature of a emo person, and a sincere take on a comic book hero/emo person. Like Dick Tracy was a sincere take on silly looking comic book cops & gansters. Not like how Marvel films do an insincere take on comic heroes, and poke fun at the universe any chance they get.
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Did anybody notice the Batman run from the 60’s show when he runs down the building?
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To think this shit show started when Adam McKay snubbed Will Ferrell.
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I can’t wait to see what this Collin Farrell Penguin show is like. They’ll probably take advantage of the actors make-up appearance, with changing the characters age , fluctuating weight-gain, and weight-loss. What a cool canvas to work on. He’s like a live-action Lego person because of this.
I know they heavily teased a Riddler & Joker team, but wouldn’t you people rather have a team consisting of Penguin, and maybe Two-Face? I’m wishing into existence either Ryan Gosling, or Javier Bardem for Harvey Dent in The Batman 2. Two completely different portrayals that can be excellent in their own ways. You got Ryan Gosling doing a 30’s New York mobster heavy performance, or Bardem doing the Universal Monster performance we never got because The Dark Universe died on the vine. You can’t lose with either choice. I just really want to explore the Dick Tracy inspirations more in these movies, and not just the Arkham nut balls.
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Exactly… They just don’t make it super obvious. You also got the scene of Batman getting chased down by cops at the station, with Batman getting up to a high position with his hook, but somehow the police catch-up to him by sliding out of nowhere from behind doors like if they were keystone cops. That’s actually the closest it got to the original Matrix for me with its portrayal of the police force. All they needed to complete the look we’re cups of coffee and sprinkle donuts. I want more of that in the sequel just with a more jazzier score. Also a script, and editing that reflects a lot of the weird character choices, like Colin Farrell wearing a fat suit, or John Turturro having an extremely dark red tan.
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On 3/5/2022 at 4:33 PM, Lawful Metal said:
Oh and the horrific car chase turned into an entire freeway full of traffic explodes and there are zero consequences for Penguin or Bats. WTF
Did you see that Penguin car flip? I doubt anybody died in this exaggerated, and grungy looking cartoon world. No matter the amount of explosions. I’m surprised Reeves didn’t have passengers walk out with their hair blackened, while coughing black smoke, and breaking the 4th wall to acknowledge the camera being there.
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Dano looking across the street with scopes, binoculars, and the sniper motif is a Scorpio reference from Dirty Harry too.
Really the whole Joker thing could’ve went a little differently. Since it’s pretty clear he’s a disfigured, and probably crippled villain, he could’ve been a member of Falcone’s mob throughout the film, and around the 2nd act we get a reveal through an accident on who this mobster is this whole time. But like I said, Reeves seemed to not want to explain too much about these heroes, villains, or gadgets. They all exist, and you have to except that.
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I’m with people about the third act. The movie uses a lot of green screen, and special effects, but for the first two acts it isn’t too obvious. Here it was egregious how much there was. I guess this was the films cheesy comic book side really showing.
I guess the Joker origin will be closer to Nicholson’s. From his dialogue he comes off as a disfigured criminal ready to re-enter the underworld under a new gimmick. Deleted scene implies a history with Batman. Hopefully the hints of his look will be toned down, or maybe if they go full comic book, they’ll come up with a silly reason for him to look like a clown. Like Arkham paying for a surgery to cheer him up, something just as stupid.
Paul Dano’s performance as The Riddler was very disappointing. I assumed it was going to be you’re typical Riddler portrayal of psycho pretending to be a sophisticated masked criminal, but instead Dano channels Charles Robinson’s manic Scorpio from Dirty Harry. I just don’t know if I should blame Dano for how lame it turned out. For one we don’t get enough of him without the mask, but also his big scene is drowned out in the films score. Still hope the sequel fixes that now that he’s unmasked from the gimp headwear. On the other hand Collin Ferral gave an amazing performance as the Penguin. Dude really does a heck of a job under that make-up doing a character actor performance. I can’t believe he once was pegged as a leading man.
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I knew with Colin Ferral as the Penguin that I was expecting a less grounded take on Batman, but it was more obvious after watching it how much less grounded it is. Sure it takes some inspiration from Nolan’s series, and Fincher films. But I’m also reminded of Batman 89’(Modern tech mixed with 90’s tech), Matrix, and oddly Dick Tracy(the makeup on the Penguin, and the uneasy romance between Batman & Catwoman). I would even say Pattinson was channeling Beatty’s extremely dry performance in Dick Tracy. Another thing I noticed that put it in a more comic setting was that they didn’t really use much exposition like the Nolan films. As soon as Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, and Gordon are introduced, they just join the cast of characters that Batman interrogates in very unrealistic ways. Batman just walking up to the Iceberg Lounge to get answers from the Penguin was right out a typical weird world Batman comic. The visuals can kind of fool you, but it’s a very gritty looking cartoonish take on the material.
I guess if you wanted to make a comparison to another version of Batman, then the Rocksteady games are closer to this movie.
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The Boys copying Dalton’s in ring movements was a helpful addition to his act(I don’t remember this prior to last night). As stated, the man is extremely banged up. Any bit of smoke, and mirrors is a plus to extend his longevity.
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I enjoyed the Singh segment here better than the debut. Which shouldn’t surprise. You gotta let these giant experiments marinate a bit before completely passing judgement. Because of the experience of seeing him the crowd seemed to pick up that whenever this man appears now, people will get hurt.
Question is… When will we see him in the ring? It’s tough because if you were the booking staff, who would you sacrifice to get him over for the initial feud, and how would you do it? You’d think logically it’d be Joe, but as shown last night, he’s too over to try that right now. Best thing would be a feud that leads to a tag that has Singh destroy Moriarty, then Joe loses to Singh in a big match.
Then from there, where do you go? The obvious answer from looking at the roster is, Wardlow. That’s who a Singh is destined to lose to. But do you put a belt on him?
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12 hours ago, alstein said:
Regal in WCW was billed as learning in the "pits of Blackpool", so it comes from there.
I swear they also claimed he fought in the Blackpool carnivals too.
December 2022 Wrestling Discussion
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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But only Saturn was allowed to win matches. Everybody else lost. So it was a toss whether they’d do anything with the others. Kidman’s came out of nowhere.
I believe it might’ve been said that Saturn, Kidman, Hammer, Sickboy, and Horus were all guys Raven did not actually want on his Flock. But it was ultimately the a WCW office decision. They ultimately did exactly what needed to be done in my eyes. Van Hammer, and Horus might’ve been the only pieces that I felt were unnecessary. Horus though as said by Raven was more like a nice little favor to Hogan to get under his good graces, in case. It didn’t do much for him(Raven) in the end.