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  1. They have an opportunity if they play their cards right to make Forgotten Sons the tag team version of Corbin - naturally and organically over as heels because there's an irrational hatred towards them for being "Vince type guys" instead of indy darlings. This is, of course, based almost entirely on the former Gunner. If Cutler and Blake had been pushed as a duo from the outset, I'd bet on them getting less hate and being called up sooner.

  2. Russo and Ferrara's very unprofessional and intentional burial of JR in WCW bears no resemblance to what Dr. Death would have done had the WWF run worked out. I hope I don't have to explain the difference between booking committee filtered WWF Russo and WCW PTB Russo. 

    If Jeff Jarrett, Prince Albert, and Ron Simmons could carve out a spot in 1999 WWF, Dr. Death would have been fine. There's no basis for the talking point that he didn't "fit in" - the Attitude Era was more of a variety show than any other era of WWF. There was room. Vince just didn't see it. 

  3. I can already hear Bruce denying the shit out of that, and I think I believe him.

    There's nothing wrong with thinking Dr. Death could have gotten over as a heel in WWF at that time - Shamrock did well enough. Main eventing with Austin? Probably not.

    The issue is that he was broken down and couldn't go, not that he was never capable or "wouldn't fit."

  4. Edge and Orton obviously weren't *trying* to nod to Benoit, but someone should have made the connection and nixed the spot. They're careful as shit about even mentioning Benoit - this kind of lack of awareness is sloppy. Also: *This is a perfectly reasonable topic of conversation.* If you don't want to take part, don't. If you don't want to read, ignore the thread. Again: not a good time to try to stifle a wrestling discussion topic on a wrestling message board. It probably would have reached its natural conclusion a page ago if there wasn't such a weird, forceful pushback.

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  5. Re: MJF, I was specifically talking about the "kids picked on me because I'm Jewish" part - that doesn't make him look tough or wimpy, it makes him look sympathetic. I don't have an issue with him cutting a fiery promo, I just thought it was a weird choice - we aren't supposed to be rooting for the heel to overcome the odds, especially when it's MJF finally getting his comeuppance for being a prick with the Dynasty for forever.

  6. 23 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

    Tell me this though how is this any less offensive than Shawn Michaels and HHH doing Crossfaces literally months after the incident in main event matches on PPV, guys that don't even do submissions.

    9 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

    I thought that was even more tasteless back then too. I remember people at the time would say they were doing it to hurt the move because it wasn’t the finish, but in my mind it was only done to get a cheap reaction.

    We're getting even deeper into the weeds here, but the idea of them using it was to "take back" the move so it could be disassociated from Benoit and still exist in wrestling.

    Good idea? Probably not. But it was absolutely not for cheap heat.

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  7. 1 hour ago, jaedmc said:

    Or Edge trained with Dr. Tom Pritchard for his comeback and Dr. Tom Pritchard was hung by the Dirty White Boy in one of great angles of the 1980s. Maybe they thought of that.

    Maybe they didn't think at all.

    Maybe it really doesn't matter.

    Nothing does!! In fact, why are we talking about this show, or anything else at all? Let's all just hop off the board and see what good news is coming up on our social media feeds.

  8. 4 hours ago, Eivion said:

    I thought I remembered a hanging, but I did not know it was with a weight set. I wouldn't be shocked if neither knew just because I can see many close to that situation not really wanting to know any details and pushing it to the back to their mind just to move on. That said, someone in the planning of that match had to know. While its not impossible no one did and that was bad luck, it sure as hell isn't likely.

    I don't know what the idea behind the spot was or why it was there, but I will say this: Edge and Randy Orton absolutely, 100% know how Chris Benoit killed himself.

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  9. To put in perspective my comments about the time wasted on WWE shows: the first match didn't start until around 15 minutes in on both nights. I don't understand how people can sit through this.

    Also, making the wrong call in both potential crowning moments for women that aren't The Same Four Women? Ridiculous.

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