Go2Sleep
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2 hours ago, RIPPA said:
The interwebs is saying that the WWE released Rich Brennan
He was the worst announcer on the roster whose last name doesn't start with L.
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Aaliyah looks like she has some promise. She already looked way better than Eva, and at worst equal to Carmella.
"Jamoke #2" needs to be a regular jobber. That guy was hilarious and got the crowd into a routine squash.
I'm glad they'll be heading back to Full Sail now, though. These last few shows felt pretty mailed-in and the crowd was bad too, nothing like the Takeover crowd.
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9 hours ago, JohnnyJ said:
What I don't get is you've created an above set tv network with no commercials. You have the pressure of producing content to grow your subscriber base and keep your subscriber base happy. A cartoon like camp wwe looks expensive and how many subscribers are you going to bring in? 10? Does the market for this even exist?
Yeah, I don't get the logic behind this show either. I would guess you could gain/retain way more subscribers just by paying one guy to upload finished wrestling shows you already own. I'm not a businessman, though.
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I'm vainly hoping they don't re-introduce Steph and HHH as authority figures. This has been the most compelling stretch of Raws in over 2 years, and they're gonna go back to why the shows were so bad during that stretch? I wouldn't even be opposed to HHH and Steph on screen, just not in the authority role or vying for the authority role.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Gallows and Anderson help AJ win at Payback, then turn on him the next night and unite behind Finn. They didn't file for a trademark on Balor Club just to put it on Finn's tron.
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I really hope E&C's geography skills were a work.
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10 hours ago, The Natural said:
This is a great picture.
Also, didn't they used to run Raws in that building in the mid 90s?
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I feel like the first episode was explicitly made for Vince McMahon to watch if he ever wanted to check out what was going for some reason. After that, they moved on to what they really wanted to do.
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13 hours ago, The Z said:
I don't understand why he's not NXT Champion right now.
Guess HHH read this and was like "Yeah me neither."
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Yeah, I don't get why people keep using spoiler tags. Is someone gonna be pissed they didn't read it somewhere else first?
Joe is champ is great and he deserves it, but I think the more interesting fallout is actually on the main roster. The Bullet Club has to be getting back together in some fashion within the next couple of weeks.
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Is it really a spoiler if it's on a show that isn't set to air?
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4 hours ago, joseph2112 said:
So despite terrible booking, Ambrose is over with the kids, the house show audiences AND the smarks from Raw and SmackDown. I've been sitting here trying to think of what you could do with a guy like that.
I can't think of anything.
Sounds like the next Dolph Ziggler!
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I hope Aerostar didn't break his tailbone on the slip in the first match.
The trios match was easily the worst of the first round matches. The DoD still suck and the Fenix/Evans/Black team didn't act the chemistry issues nearly as well as the Mack/Moth/Mariposa and Cage/Mundo/Taya teams. At least it gets Jack Evans in giant showcase clusterfuck match.
The B-movie line readings by Mundo cracked me up. "Cage... In a cage." *nods*
It was nice of Siniestre de la Muerte to finally use his powers to kill his teammates instead of helping them win matches. Catrina should still kill him for slacking this whole time.
The main event was alright. Pretty much the setup match I expected where they didn't show too much until the big non-finish. I'm sure they have a better one in them down the line. The best part was the vastly different reactions of Catrina and Dario to being threatened.
The "missing" posters in the police station were the highlight of the show. Wonder if they found Bael's body or if they're just taking Reyes' word that he was eaten by a monster.
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Jericho going over Sami isn't nearly as bad as him going over AJ at Mania. They probably could've used someone different, but guys of Sami's rank are the kind of guys Jericho actually should be beating before putting Ambrose over. Plus they did the eye-poke, so Sami was still protected a little.
I liked the Bullet Club segments. I thought they might be going for the swerve where they help Roman at Payback, but them attacking Roman here doesn't fit that story. They could go any number of ways, but I'm thinking Anderson and Gallows stay on their own until Balor gets brought up.
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2 hours ago, The Nature Boy said:
"IT'S ME REDDIT! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG REDDIT!"
Aw son of a bitch.
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3 hours ago, SorceressKnight said:
If it was even just THEM, I might- MIGHT- be inclined to believe you.
When people are ALSO demanding Billie Kay, Peyton Royce, or Athena get pushed over Alexa (or, to be more specific: Jessie McKay (NOT! Billie Kay!), KC Cassidy (NOT! Peyton Royce!), and Athena (uh...okay, she's still Athena!), while also spending even this topic demanding Santana Garrett get signed, and presumably given that push? It's far, far closer to my argument (especially since Alexa's at least been about the same in-ring quality as the two Aussies in the ring and Garrett's jobber matches). There absolutely IS a "SHIMMER vs. The homegrowns" in play with Alexa.
Except none of those people you listed are actually getting pushed over Alexa right now, so the idea that she's a victim of a Shimmer invasion doesn't hold any water. Maybe some fans feel that way, but it's obviously not affecting where Alexa is on the card. She's featured on tv because she's paid some dues within the WWE system, but she's not at the top because some of her peers are clearly better fits for those spots.
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I think it's still pretty disingenuous to compare TNA to WWE, when at its peak, it got maybe 25% of the viewership WWE had. Sting didn't even move the needle in TNA.
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As far as comparing Alexa to Trish goes, I'll just c/p this post I made a few months ago.
Quote1. I'm pretty confident nobody is gonna be the next Trish Stratus in this day and age. PG era pretty severely hinders any woman from getting over just by overt sexualization (this is not a bad thing mind you) and audiences today want some wrestling ability right out of the gate. Eva Marie would've been a star in the early 2000s a la Torrie Wilson and Stacy Kiebler. Likewise, Wilson and Kiebler would be dead in the water today. It took Trish a good 3-4 years to get solid in the ring, but she could rely on T&A matches and angles (and I ain't talking about Andrew Martin and Matt Bloom) to stay over in the mean time, then it looked even better when she became a good wrestler when that was the prevailing style she was brought up in. That just isn't a path that's available to women wrestlers today in WWE.
2. I know we all love NXT, but what is with these crazy reaches for "pro comps" with the current talent? First I see someone say Jason Jordan is the next Rock, and now Alexa is the next Trish? I think Tyler Breeze was 92 Shawn at one point too, and well, I digress... Trish Stratus is perhaps the most inspirational woman in WWE history. Her work ethic in a situation where it wasn't expected and the fact that she ended up having a decent in-ring legacy despite having little if any talent or inspired writing to work with until her last couple of years is no small feat. Alexa may well equal or surpass Trish in terms of ring work when it's all said and done (and honestly given Alexa's environment, it would be damning if she didn't), but I will say with great confidence, she will never be an iconic figure on the level of Trish. There was a lot more to Trish than being short and blonde.
As far as "tag team managers that are primarily sex appeal at first but have some discernible athleticism that indicates potential talent despite their current green-ness" go, let's see if she can become the next Melina before we even think about drawing comparisons to Trish.
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17 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:
As far as Alexa- she seems like the biggest victim of the "Women's Revolution" there is. On paper, she SHOULD be ready- and honestly should be one of the top Divas in NXT right now. However, as the Four Horsewomen rose to the top of the heap, the women's division became that much better- and at the same time, there was also a sea change that has seemingly turned Alexa into the enemy on there. Whether it's as outright as some places saying "Alexa should be depushed because women's wrestling will never give Divas a chance as long as they push a woman as beautiful as she is!" and turning "Give Divas A Chance" to "THE BARBIE DOLLS MUST DIE!", or even people who basically forget about her being a good heel and seeing her as a top star in favor of pushing the SHIMMER alumni instead because "muh...muh SHIMMER!", it seems like Alexa is in the weirdest place- she's good enough to be a top heel, but she can't get the spot she deserves (whether it's a top NXT heel or even a main roster woman) because she's somehow been treated like the sort of woman that people should inherently be against if they want the Women's Revolution to work.
Yes I'm sure Becky, Bayley, Emma, and Asuka were pushed over Alexa solely due to their time in Shimmer. It wouldn't be that they're all significantly better in the ring and are more over despite being exposed to the NXT audience for roughly the same amount of time (or way less in Asuka's case).
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3 hours ago, SorceressKnight said:
Someone like, say, an Austin Aries may have the online buzz and a big fanbase...but at the same time, it also has to be asked: If Austin Aries had what it took to become the mainstream superstar who'd lead WWE to a new boom period in him, then why couldn't he take ROH or TNA to those heights when he was a main eventer in those promotions?
Come on, this is one of the most blatantly unfair arguments ever. Anyone working in WWE is seen by millions more people much more frequently than someone working anywhere else. Do you really think John Cena would've become an international superstar if he stayed in UPW?
And not for nothing, ROH did expand its reach pretty considerably, even working up to low-level tv deal which would've seemed impossible in 2002 thanks to the work of guys like Punk, Joe, Bryan, Owens, Zayn, etc.
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I mean I disagree with Charlotte holding the WWE women's belt past Mania, but she was a good champion in NXT. While Sasha and Bayley went on to be a lot better, Charlotte was ready before them and was perfectly fine as the division ace placeholder until they caught up.
And I know it's not fair because it's so short, but that's gotta be one of the better title lineages in wrestling history.
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Texano is the Alberto Del Rio of Lucha Underground. He's got talent, but he's just not very interesting. The fact that he's been booked like a chump for most of his stint hasn't helped either.
Anyway good show this week. Dario owned the fuck out of that opening scene, The Chris Kyle gimmick appears to have filled a lot of the holes in Killshot's game, Texano and Daga had a decent match despite the crowd not having much reason to care about either of them, and the main event was off the chain. Dragon Azteca looked really impressive, and Cage was beasting the whole time. Taya is quietly establishing herself as the best female wrestler in LU. She didn't really feel out of place at all in a match where the gender dynamic could've been very awkward. Rey seems to have found the fountain of... Not quite youth, but back to about 2009.
I feel like next week won't be the last Mil/Matanza match. It came up so fast, it just screams non-finish to me. Can't believe the DoD are coming back, especially with two fun teams already out. Why can't we get the team of Argenis, Ricky Mandel, and El Mariachi Loco led by Famous B instead?
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Man, remember when people here were saying Alexa was the next Trish Stratus? Lol
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"Have him back by Monday, he's gotta put Heath Slater over!" followed by the Hot Tag commercial was great.
Oh and "During ECW's heyday... 2009."
This show has gotten a million times better since the first episode.
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Has anyone compared Zayn/Nakamura to Kobashi/Joe yet? Because that's what it reminded me of.
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The Cage/Mundo match was really good. Loved the sequence with Mundo using his parkour to dodge the kendo stick. The match was worked exactly as it should with Cage always pushing forward, and Mundo being crafty enough to get some good shots in but ultimately getting his ass kicked. Despite all the nasty moves and bumps, the match had a very old-school cage match feel where the face finally got a big decisive win over the chickenshit heels. The screwdriver as a super-finisher for Cage is pretty cool too.
The trios match was supremely disappointing. Just way too many guys in there for most of the match, and when it got down to two teams the chemistry wasn't great and the finish was abrupt. Some good spots here and there, but no real rhythm and consistency. That said, I do look forward to lots of LU-Babyface-Evolution trios matches.