Elsalvajeloco
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Even though she recently moved to 145, I still would say Germaine de Randamie is the more devastating or best striker at women's bantamweight. We only have a small sample size. However, if she fought more consistently, I think she would smoke so many girls easily. Anyway, I would say Nunes is the most effective striker at 135 in using her power and noticing when people are on the ropes. I mean Tate looked like a deer in headlights on the way out to the cage at UFC 200. All Nunes had to do is hit her with two or three strikes and that would be a done deal. Tate wasn't going to put up any resistance. I think with Rousey/Holm, that was the easiest no one gets back on defense layup Holly Holm ever had outside facing someone like Juliana Werner or that other chick she headkicked on AXS TV. At least there was a risk of Rousey scrambling and ending up on Holm's back even half dazed. Those two girls just looked out of sorts and had very little technique at all. Holm is great at exploiting lack of technique. Nunes is more or less able to exploit desperation, which I believe is her only shot against Rousey. If Rousey is shooting takedowns from way outside ala Sean Sherk 10 or 15 years ago, then yeah, we got a problem. However, the reason I'm a bit more certain picking Rousey is that's not her game. Nunes is very strong especially early in a fight, but she is able to be taken down. Holm has always been more stalwart at her takedown defense because of natural strength. Even in like the Jackson Fight Series, she looked very capable at stopping takedowns. Nunes is basically all upper body, and even then her upper body is more extended without a ton of muscle. She isn't gangly, but you can tell her functional strength may not be all there (meaning she can be strong in certain cases but a TD defense might struggle). You can tell she comes from a capoeira/BJJ type background whereas Rousey has that judoka build. I mean Cat Zingano basically had that Vera De Milo from In Living Color thing (not to diss Cat since Julia Budd and others have that same build) going on and look how Rousey treated her. Outside Cyborg and maybe Holm, that's clearly the strongest woman above 115 not named Ronda Rousey, If Nunes doesn't keep Ronda away from her by creating distance, her title reign is going to come to an abrupt end. -
She doesn't look incredibly sucked down like she usually looks at weigh-ins.
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Johny Hendricks (who cut weight w/ his opponent Neil Magny) and Ray Borg are the only ones who haven't weighed in yet.
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Rousey was the first fighter out for the early weigh-ins and made 135 no problem.
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I was more talking about the guy who specifically made that comment. Either way, I don't think anything should be that influential in terms of perception. I mean these vlogs are shot starting the Friday or Saturday the week before the fight. How much do people really think is going to be done when training is essentially over? How much work is going to done the Sunday (on Christmas Day) before you fly to Vegas on that Monday? Most people are packing and doing menial tasks/running errands then. The dude is spending time with his girlfriend on Christmas Day, which I'm pretty sure is common especially if you want to maintain having a girlfriend. He isn't freebasing cocaine or anything like that. Fucking Donald Cerrone is doing something that could end his life during every Embedded, and people just say that's Cerrone being Cerrone. The whole Luke Rockhold "I don't have a family so that's more time to be about fighting" logic only works to a small degree and with specific factors. It works when we're talking fighters who are mentally/physically checked out of fighting or the fighters who have notoriously bad time management. We can rule out the latter because most of those dudes never make it higher than fringe contendership status anyway. Otherwise, it's about how good that person is as a fighter. I don't care if Tim Boetsch had zero family members to care about or had the greatest training camp possible, he isn't beating Luke Rockhold outside of a great punch that Rockhold didn't see coming. By Rockhold's own logic, since he is now dating Demi Lovato last I checked, he should take an extended sabbatical until they breakup because she is more famous than him. That would be a bigger distraction than having a square life w/ wife and kids. Moreover, how we do we account the rest of the Embedded footage? Because we saw Garbrandt work out and hit pads with his uncle. He definitely didn't look like a dude who didn't train. He looked like a dude getting his final reps in and just working on a few extra things. Hell, we only saw Nunes walk around with Nina Ansaroff, buying gifts, buy Dolphins merchandise, and do laundry on Christmas day. There was only a brief clip of her doing training related stuff. I don't think that means she is doomed against Ronda Rousey because she had to do her laundry. We have seen virtually zero of Ronda training in these Embedded. Hasn't effected my perception one bit, and it should not because that's absolutely absurd that it would. There are 24 hours in a day. If you're training for more than 1/8 of that 24 hours (especially this close to a fight), you're doing it wrong. Right now, I would have to favor Rousey just based on the style matchup. Nunes is a good striker, but she is way more deliberate than someone like Holly Holm. Holm is predictable in many cases, but she comes from different angles and everything looks crisp and sharp. She looks like a Winkeljohn trained fighter. Nunes' style is more awkward but in a way where you can see where she is going. At her best, Rousey is like a well oiled machine who has impeccable timing with certain grappling techniques. That armbar on Zingano was ridiculous. It comes down to reaction time. If Ronda struggles to get her bearings due to rust and just allows it to stay standing, It's going to be a bit tough until Nunes slows down. On the other hand, Amanda Nunes got snap suplexed in a fight. Ronda Rousey is more than capable of tossing Nunes in the air. Rousey looks to be in awesome shape, and she isn't carry extra muscle around for no reason. Personally, I feel it's Rousey's fight to lose.
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I'm going update the Rizin OWGP bout pairings a little later since the first show is done.
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Even if he had an open workout on video for every week in camp, you still would need to put together some coherent logical analysis based on McGregor and his opponent. If you're looking at a fighter and saying something like, "Fighter X crosses his feet in this video frequently and I think Fighter Y can exploit this bad habit based on...", that makes enough sense to have some type of pick. If you're just basing something solely on intangible shit like "He wants it more" and "Nobody can out train him", you might as well be the drunk guy at the sports bar picking someone based on the color of their shorts. You would be about as successful.
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You quoted the wrong post so I'm a little confused. I'm not arguing about who is going to win a fight. I am talking about how people want to use a small fraction of an Embedded to determine who is going to win or lose. That's downright retarded. I'm not a big believer in holidays, but the dude went out with someone he cares about on Christmas day like you know....the rest of the country. How the fuck does that play into a fight especially knowing that Dominick Cruz is open about not caring to make a ton of friends? I'm surprised they caught him out with his training partners. Yeah, the dude who is anti-social is going to be on the treadmill next to his dog on Christmas day. Both activities are not completely indicative of how someone's EIGHT WEEK camp went.
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So Garbrandt couldn't have hit a treadmill sometime during that day? If anyone thinks a whole training camp or approach can be defined in 90 seconds on Embedded or a Countdown show, I doubt any explanation on how flawed that is will be satisfactory.
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2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
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There is word going around that this will be Mike Goldberg's last show. Not sure how reputable the source is, but it makes sense giving that it's the last show of the calendar year and we've already heard they're searching for a replacement.
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2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
Elsalvajeloco replied to Elsalvajeloco's topic in BOXING & MMA
Lando Vannata is fighting David Teymur at UFC 209. -
2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
Elsalvajeloco replied to Elsalvajeloco's topic in BOXING & MMA
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Thank you for contributing next to nothing.
