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  1. 3 hours ago, Godfrey said:

    Not sure what went down with Proud and Powerful

    Essentially, Santana wanted to be bigger in wrestling and Ortiz was happy making steady money as a team.  Neither guy is wrong.  You can try break out on your own and be Shawn Michaels or you can stay on track as the Rock n Roll Express. 

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  2. 15 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    Some months back, I was listening to a STW episode for some Invasion era PPV (probably KotR 2001). Bruce and Conrad almost went into this unintentional Who's on First bit regarding why DDP got the stalker gimmick. The whole episode is a bit depressing and sad but that particular segment is a symptomatic is trying to sabotage talent just to prove their superiority. By Bruce's own logic (1) WWF in their prime years of 1985-1990 was not successful because it came undone in 1991-1997 and (2) what worked in wrestling once before can no longer work cause WWF fans don't care about stuff that happened elsewhere even though there are SEVERAL examples proving otherwise. There is pigheaded and petty and then there is whatever kool-aid Vince concocted for his minions. From that you can understand why WWF was no longer hot like they were in the Attitude era. They were willing to tank their business just to prove a point.

    The whole "nothing you did before matters" thing is insane when you consider that the initial strategy to build the company in the early 80s was to just steal the hottest wrestlers from other places and push them immediately.  Which then leads me to ask, when did Vince settle into the strategy of "push first, then pull back just to teach them a lesson?"  Because he certainly didn't do that shit in the 80s. 

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  3. 3 hours ago, AxB said:

    per Fightful, Mike Santana is now gone from AEW. He's off the roster page and not because his name starts with The.

    Man, as far as overvaluing yourself is concerned, that's up there with QT Marshall quitting for a few weeks because getting easy heat in Mexico had him convinced he could be a star.  Seriously, I'm happy the guy is in recovery and wish him the best but god damn, nothing about Santana ever convinced me his ceiling is higher than 1/2 of Proud & Powerful.  God bless the guy if he proves me wrong but still....damn.

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  4. 3 hours ago, BloodyChamp said:

    Dick Slater beat Sting up for effin with Dark Journey who he was in love with. The details across shoots have been different. Some say Slater clocked him from behind then beat him up, some say he caught him coming out of the dumper and gave him a swirly, some say it was a straight up fight that Slater won

    Dark Journey?  All those things were worth it.

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  5. 5 hours ago, Zimbra said:

    That was Tom Zenk (or maybe it wasn't actually Tom Zenk, I don't remember how all that shook out).

     

    4 hours ago, Mister TV said:

    I'm 97% sure it was Zenk on Meltzer's Eyada show.

    Well that's part of the mystery solved.  It was definitely Zenk, I remember that much since you guys jogged my memory.

  6. 36 minutes ago, Mister TV said:

    That's basically what pimps do, Vince McMahon's management style when it comes to talent is right out of the Iceberg Slim book on pimping.

    Thus aligning with the apocryphal story, maybe mentioned in the sleaze thread, wherein Vince caught Shane having a conversation with Ultimate Warrior and chided him, saying “dammit Shane, you’re supposed to fuck ‘em, not marry ‘em!”

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  7. Somebody refresh my memory and fill in the blanks here, as this story keeps nagging at me every time a podcast goes onto the subject of Ole Anderson memories.  I keep thinking about this anecdote where maybe a young wrestler was possibly complaining about his payoffs and Ole replied something like, "I'd suck dicks for that kind of money!  Line 'em up around the block, I'd suck 'em all!"

    Obviously I'm not going to Google Ole Anderson dick sucking story so maybe someone can help.

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  8. 2 hours ago, BloodyChamp said:

    I was disappointed to see Doug Gilbert being an asshole about Sting on FB, for never mentioning Eddie. He does have a point but I doubt Sting really knew Eddie that well. Eddie was too busy chasing Missy Hyatt around and Sting wasn’t getting in the middle of that after he’d got in the middle of Dick Slater and Dark Journey. 

    What's this?

    1 hour ago, Phantom Lord said:

    I just watched a video clip from one of the Starrcasts and he talked about that. Basically he said he didn't have the hair up top anymore to do a flat top like that. He was open to doing neon paint or whatever, but his hair was too far gone.

    (nods knowingly)

    49 minutes ago, The Natural said:

    I've always said Starrcade 1997 was the beginning of the end for WCW.

    https://deathvalleydriver.com/forum/index.php?/topic/10224-wcw-starrcade-1997-25-years-later-the-start-of-the-end-for-wcw/#comments

    Fuck Hollywood Hogan and fuck Eric Bischoff.

    I was at that show and the general air of dejection among the crowd walking out of the place was palpable.

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  9. Hearing Lance's talk about the wrestling culture in general really bothered me as well.  To summarize:

    • You're told to always protect the business.  Never discuss the business with anyone outside it.
    • Never stooge the boys to the office.  Always deal with problems among the boys with the boys.
    • When you reach WWE, you're told nothing you did before WWE matters.  They push you a little to show you how great it can be, then kill your push for a while to show you how bad it can be.  That way you know who is in charge and that you better tow the line because they are in complete control of your career.
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  10. 7 hours ago, The Natural said:

    Thanks!  I meant to call out what a must-listen episode this was (It was this past Saturday's ep if anyone needs the date).    Lance really hit the nail on the head with the culture stuff and put words to something I've been thinking about for a while.  How can behavior change when so many people in wrestling are direct descendants of the carny bullshit days of wrestling? 

    Hell, maybe we just fire anyone in the office or locker room who started before 1995.  I don't know.  I'm being facetious but really, what do we do?  Hayes and Prichard are old heads and there's no damn way their views on social issues are any better than Vince's.  You have HHH and MIchaels in power, and Cody is the top babyface, and all three sat under the learning tree of carny con men.  I feel like the mentality that used to thrive in pro wrestling is a cancer that should be cut out so wrestling can grow. 

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  11. 13 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:

    Huh, I interpreted your paraphrase as Sting being self-serving. WWF wasn't interested in doing anything with Sting's career and had no ideas for how to use him right because they just wanted to take a WCW centerpiece.

    And considering how they did use him once he finally got there, he wasn't wrong! The HHH match is especially egregious for many reasons. 

     

    Ahhh, maybe.  I’m giving him the benefit of a doubt since it’s his retirement and also Lance’s interpretation was of Sting just being a stand up guy.

    (And I’m probably feeling sentimental)

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  12. There’s a guy at my gym that I only see on Sunday mornings.  He’s not in bad shape but not in great shape either.  Wears knee and elbow wraps and all he does is Smith Machine bench presses.  Just like 30 - 45 minutes of 6-8 45lb plates of Smith bench press with shitty ROM.  I don’t know what to think about this.

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  13. 8 hours ago, The Natural said:

    Great American Bash 1990 as Sting beat Ric Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship

    I was at that show!  

    Lance Storm told a story on this week’s Alvarez show where he asked Sting back in the day why he never signed with WWF in the 80s/90s and Sting told him something to the effect of, “every time I talked to them, they were more about how signing me would hurt WCW than about how it would help them.”  GOD DAMN, we should all strive to be that good a dude.

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  14. On 3/1/2024 at 7:10 PM, Dolfan in NYC said:

    Miro responding to a deleted tweet about why Meat Madness was cancelled.  Sure sounds like he's ... nonplussed.

     

    6 hours ago, Log said:

    Miro's getting close to embodying the Raylan Given's "If you run into assholes all day..." quote.

    Lord yes.  Every Miro tweet and anecdote makes it abundantly clear why WWE didn’t push him.

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  15. Yeah, Claudio vs a guy in a Monchichi mask going 15 minutes was too fucking long.  Someone who knows more about Lucha than I do, please dispel my belief that we’re now getting the CMLL B team because of the latest visa problem.

    As an avid Bossman Slam enthusiast, I was legit worried Dutch would tag out before hitting his glorious slam.  But my worries were unfounded!

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  16. I'm not much of a figure guy but I do buy figs of wrestlers I like.  My local Wal Mart had 1-2 figs from AEW's newest line in stock last weekend, so I picked up Brody King.  It's a good fig but not big enough.  A little too fit and trim.  Contrast that with my Eddie Kingston fig, who has traps bigger than Lesnar.

  17. 2 hours ago, The Natural said:

    March sees Sting's last wrestling match at AEW Revolution

    Wow.  The first time I ever saw him wrestle live was maybe two years into his career, in 1987!

    JCP @ Baltimore, MD – Arena – July 12, 1987 (13,500)
    Misty Blue defeated Kat Leroux
    Terry Gordy (sub. for Buddy Roberts) defeated Thunderfoot #1
    Rick Steiner (sub. for Black Bart) defeated Sting
    Jimmy Garvin defeated Manny Fernandez via disqualification
    NWA US Tag Team Champions Bobby Eaton & Stan Lane defeated Michael Hayes & Buddy Roberts (sub. for Terry Gordy)
    Barry Windham defeated Big Bubba
    Ron Garvin defeated NWA US Tag Team Champion Bobby Eaton (sub. for an injured Jim Cornette); Cornette came out to the ring on crutches before the bout
    UWF World Champion Steve Williams defeated Dick Murdoch
    Nikita Koloff & the Road Warriors defeated NWA World Champion Ric Flair, NWA US Champion Lex Luger, & Arn Anderson in an elimination match
    Dusty Rhodes defeated NWA TV Champion Tully Blanchard in a non-title barbed wire match

    Fun Great American Bash show (non-PPV) as far as I can remember, except the main event, which is a study in the carny arts.  The whole show went long and the announcer (maybe Cappetta) told us all not to worry...they were "granted a curfew extension by the arena" and we would definitely get our main event!  Dusty and Tully get in...Tully attacks Dusty...Dusty ducks and either hits Tully with some plunder or a bionic elbow (memory is hazy on that point) and pins him.  Time of the fall is probably 10 seconds.  I'm positive no "curfew extension" was granted.  More likely the promoter (Gary Juster?) begged and pleaded because losing the main due to curfew would mean refunds, thrown trash, etc., and the arena manager told them "fuck you, you have 30 seconds and that's it."

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  18. Gym bitching...I hate these people:

    • People who tie knots in the long rope AND also don't untie them when finished (the rope used for stuff like lat pullovers).  There are already 2-3 short ropes with lovely rubber blocks on them.  WTF
    • People who, between sets, don't stay near the thing they're using
    • People who occupy the only machine of its kind in the gym (in my gym, it's incline barbell bench, hip thrust, pec deck, & hack squat) and take crazy long breaks between sets.  If I can knock out three different exercises (9 - 12 sets) while waiting for you to finish up, something is terribly wrong
    • Crowded gym supersetters
    • And, as always, groups of 5 high school boys, all with broccoli hair and Crocs, "working out" together ie using a bench for an hour.  I am dreading Summer.
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