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  1. 3 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    Speaking of J-Tex Corporation, I watched Halloween Havoc 89 last night and finished it this morning. Muta in character blowing out an accidental fire (that Tommy Young and someone else...maybe Jackie Crockett are desperately trying to extinguish) with green mist...the most pro wrestling thing in the history of pro wrestling.

    I really like that match, apart from the occasional attempt to climb out of the cage 

  2. The funny thing about all this great Pat O Connor Chicago footage is the fact that initially the promoter wanted O'Connor to pay him $10,000 to wrestle at those shows while also being paid less than the NWA champion usually earned. O'Connor was so angry at the suggestion that he walked out of their meeting and later told Sam Muchnick not to book him there. 

  3. On 5/19/2020 at 6:15 PM, thee Reverend Axl Future said:

    Dory Funk Jr.'s school never turned out a breakout star

    Mickie James is the only name I can think of. It's debatable whether you could add Kurt Angle to the list as he was training with Dory by way of WWF.

    The Lou Thesz school I can't even picture. You'd think if anything it would have turned out a wave of mixed martial artists ala Billy Robinson and UWF

  4. 6 hours ago, L_W_P said:

    Flair jumping to Vince in the early 90's...

    Would WWE look any different if this didn't happen?

    ON the whole I don't think so, due to the steroid trial and Bret's popularity in Europe he was always destined to get that run.

    I think you're right about WMVIII, it would have still been Hogan v Sid on top but I don't know how you get there. I suppose Hogan v Undertaker could go the same leading to the title being held up, then Sid wins by turfing Hogan leading to a slow burn feud and eventual Sid heel turn. But as I mentioned, with the steroid trial I still think Sid was destined to have that turn and disappointingly short run which is a shame as I really think he could have been the face of the company if the stars had aligned.

    Looking back, I get the impression Vince really wasn't impressed with what he got with Flair and was happy to be rid of him in the end

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  5. 15 hours ago, Petey said:

    I've always wondered what would have happened if Bill Watts got (took?) the Jim Herd job in late 1988. I don't know who Watts would have brought in as booker but I imagine it wouldn't have been George Scott.

    I still maintain Watts coming in in late 92 is one of the worst things to happen to WCW, due to the conflict of interest his contract presented as well as his out of touch presentation and ideas.

    IF he’d come in when Turner initially took over it might have helped put the rebrand on an even keel and given a bit of consistency which WCW never seemed to have until Bischoff took over.

  6. Oh I totally get the concept behind JR pushing the athletic and collegiate backgrounds as a way of (further) legitimising a wrestler but in the age of binging and him making the same points every event it’s like “Brian Pillman. Wedge buster. Yadayadayada, bloody hell, give it a rest!”

  7. I've been using my furlough time to work through all the WCW Clash and PPVs up to when Hogan comes in.

    I'm at 1990 and I tell you one thing, god bless Vince McMahon for reigning Jim Ross' commentary in regarding going on about wrestlers having degrees and what sport they played. Sheesh. One bonus is it's become a running joke between me and my missus now, so if we're watching a sitcom I'll start making up some bollocks about an actors collegiate background

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  8. 1 hour ago, odessasteps said:

    We looked it up the other day and I think both Robert and Jimmy are 6'5", so lotsof good genetics in the Welch family.

    Are there any young Welch’s on the indies?

    Listening to the Studcast has been a great insight into working and running a promotion in the territory days. Blowed my mind listening to Ron talk about Gordon Nelson and how one of the most lethal shooters in wrestling ended up as just a simple member of the road crew in WCW

    EDIT: Nelson’s obit http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2012/12/19/20443241.html

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  9. 7 hours ago, Godfrey said:

    I wonder how long they'll wait before doing the Bucks match,

    I reckon it’ll be a slow burn: buddies based on mutual respect, Bucks win that first eventual meeting which begins FTR heel turn.
    That’s what I’d do anyway: everyone’s been wanting/expecting the match for years so why not hold off a while longer 

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  10. 2 hours ago, PetrolCB said:

    Yeah, I believe so.

    Survivor Series '89 will always be one of my favorites. To be honest, I've probably watched the intro more times than the show itself.

    Conversely, it’s one of my least favourite shows for the simple fact that young me saved up my pocket money to see Barry Windham and Tully and Arn on a WWF show only for the cover of the VHS to not reflect who was on the show!

  11. On 5/19/2020 at 8:13 AM, BobbyWhioux said:

    insisting Doink was somebody vaguely familiar from wrestling's past, on the other side of a psychotic break and out for revenge,

    Never picked up on this in commentary, cool. I always thought a fun backstory for Doink would have been he was a harmless circus clown who ribbed a carnival shooter one too many times and got stretched to kingdom come  until it broke him mentally. Now here he is in the WWF just trying to have fun and he keeps on snapping 

  12. 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

    is there another personality in wrestling that's gotten a better reevaluation over the years than Dusty Rhodes?

    From the vitriol of the IWC as the face of Raw during the bland split in 2002 to being everyone’s darling for what he built with NXT up to 2018ish, Triple H was definitely in contention. I get the impression it’s reverted back again in recent years though 

    EDIT: I was going to fix that typo but it sums up the period perfectly to me...

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