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Then. Now. fuck it.

At this point, Yoko has to have dropped the weight WWE wanted him to lose.

In the end, Al Isaacs will scoop CNBC and the WSJ to reveal that Yokozuna will join the Hart Foundation next week on Raw

I'm posting this because I haven't seen it on here (but apologies if..), and also because I had this exact thought: https://twitter.com/trillmoregirls/status/1612965420423680002

Also too soon. You goddam MONSTERS

Adam Cole is now a bay bay face. I can do Dad jokes too, @Gordlow. .

Oh Man! HANGMAN! MOX! X! BILLY ZOOM! They beat the crap out of each other. MOX takes it to the mat. SWEET GERMAN SUPLEX by Mox! And another! Hangman bumps big to the floor into the rail! GNARLY Lariat by Hangman! Well, this match is fucking GREAT. KING KONG LARIAT for TWO! During picture in picture, MOX kicks Hangman in the head several times. MOX applies the Stepover Toehold Front Facelock! He switches to Sleeper Hold and HAngman counters with a Vertical Suplex and an EMORMOUS Lariat! They return to beating the living dogshit out of each other. Yeah. This match is motherfucking great. ORIHARA MOONSAULT by Hangman! DEATHRIDER! FOR TWO! BULLDOG CHOKE! But not really sunk in! PILEDRIVER! FOR ONE! MOX flips off the COWBOY SHIT crowd! MOX is so awesome. Hangman hits the Big Bang Theory! They return to beating the living fuck out of each other. LARIAT! BUCKSHOT LARIAT! HANGMAN WINS! HANGMAN WINS! Well, that was fucking great. Ah, MOX GOES ON VACATION! FINALLY! AWESOME! ADAM COLE! HE'S BACK! YES! PUT THE BELTS ON HIM! What a GREAT promo! PUT EVERY BELT ON HIM! Big Bill and Lee Moriarty are taking on Jack Perry and Hook! I would think this will booked six ways to Sunday since this is of the TNAcclaimed vs Jeff Jarrett/Jay Lethal match ilk. Perry and Lee go TOTAL WAHOO! Hook and Lee are fun in the ring together! FUCKERY BY HATHAWAY! Oh no! Big Bill tags in! Bill and Lee are a great with the heel double teaming. Lee and Bill CUT OFF THE RING in picture in picture! Lee makes with the chinlock! Keylock Lift by Perry! The crowd becomes UNGLUED when Big Bill and Hook stare each other down! Hook EVENTUALLY T-Bone Tazplexes Big Bill! SNARETRAP ON LEE! That was fun. KONOSUKE TAKESHITA! MJF? Awesome! He channels Rick Rude! That was fun! BRYAN DANIELSON! BLUE THUNDER TAKEOVER! They go TOTAL WAHOO! TakeshitaLine! GREAT set up for the BLUE THUNDER BOMB! JESUS! DOUBLE WAHOO by Cinnebon Boy! TWO MORE TIMES! Jesus! It's Wahoo versus Wahoo! Picture in picture TREE OF WOE! TOPROPE LARIAT by TAKESHITA! FOR TWO! BRAINBUSTER ON THE FLOOR by SOUP! LaBelle Lock but Soup hits the ropes! They OPT to beat the living fuck out of other to set up a FUCKING ENORMOUS LARIAT by KONOSUKE TAKESHITA! EVEREST GERMAN SUPLEX FOR TWO! KNEE BY AMDRAG FOR TWO! REGAL STRETCH FOR THE WIN! Jesus Christ, that was fucking awesome. Saraya! TONI STORM! JAMIE motherfucking HAYTER! Britt Baker! REBA! REBA! REBA! Hayter is OVER in Los Angeles! Toni Storm got the memo from Toni Storm that we are laying it in now. Jamie Hayter REALLY got the memo! VARIATION ON WRECKED EM! Saraya lays it in! Hayter is making Saraya look great! Baker tags in after Storm TOTALLY turns heel. This match is fucking great! In a the Acclaimed/Jarrett/Lethal way. MAN! Storm and Hayter need a rematch yesterday. Saraya looks pretty good in this. WRECKED EM in the corner by Storm! TOPROPE AIR RAID CRASH by Baker FOR TWO! GREAT GERMAN SUPLEX by Storm! Hikaru Shida throws in the kendo stick and Baker hits Storm with it! Hayter CRUSHES Storm with a Short Lariat and gets the pin! It's weird that THIS was either the third or fourth best match tonight because it was really good. Everybody needs to turn already! DADDY MAGIC'S NIPPLES ARE HARD BECAUSE JAKE HAGAR POWERBOMBED RICKY STARKS THROUGH A TABLE! Hey! It's Ricky Starks! It's Action Andretti! It's an overall confusing batch of promos! It's like Rin and Stimpy- I WANT TO SAY THE LOUD WORDS! I'm excited about the JAS beating the shit out of Action Andretti. I assume they start with Garcia and then Sammy. KENNY IS SPORTIN THE IWGP US TITLE! The crowd is MOLTEN! This is a WHOLE BUNCHA STUFF! They CRUSH Kenny's nether regions with a ladder in picture in picture! WACKY STUFF OFF LADDERS! Kenny takes a Poison Rana like PSYCHO! V TRIGGER ONTO ALEX (who trained at the Hart Dungeon)! ONE WING ANGEL OFF THE LADDER! Jesus, Kenny and the Bucks need to buy Rey Fenix a What-A-Burger. Rey was the all-star of that series! On to losing these belts to United Empire! I'm glad that it's only 7 o'clock in California, because I can't IMAGINE not being completely fried by the end of ALL THAT. Possibly the best episode of Dynamite EVER? Close if not. AEW REALLY MOTHERFUCKING RULES THE MOTHERFUCKING WORLD.

I will wait for an article from a non-wrestling journalist at a big publication before thinking there is any kind of close deal.

Awesome!

Easily one of the best Dynamites ever. The best thing about Adam Cole's appearance was that it was a complete surprise. We had no idea he was showing up tonight. No teases, no make sure you tune in for blah blah blah. It was a complete surprise, a total rarity these days in wrestling.

Some egregious spray tans on the show tonight. Adam Cole's pale fingers, Juice and Toni as the orange power couple, and Action Andretti's hair colour blending into his body

I wish I were an evp. Then I could no-sell a falcon arrow on the floor, too. Fuck that shitty haired dork and fuck his skinnyfat friends, too…

Some people have principles? Gritting your teeth through a couple shows a year is one thing, having every check soaked in blood money might be quite another for some.

Are these "human suitors"? Well, certainly not humane suitors. Holy shit, looks like Disney isn't the worst option as a potential buyer afterall!

I don't have a lot to say about the potential Saudi stuff, and it still feels very potential, but... On some level is this amazing irony because all Vince ever wanted was mainstream credibility, to be accepted by those rich Greenwich jerks he based Hunter's initial character off of. And now he's created a media empire of the sorts that a terrible regime is thinking of buying it to give them credibility. Talk about concrete proof that you've "made it," huh?

Saudi Arabia won't remove the women's division. That goes against everything they're trying to accomplish with their propaganda of being more progressive. They also won't force them to wear bodysuits while they're competing in non-Arabic countries. I don't like this any more than anyone else, but come on.

so i mentioned in the December thread that 2003 TNA has been just dogshit awful. so i wanted to come back and mention that the show has dramatically improved. that is mostly because Vince Russo is no longer on TV. i know he's still involved behind the scenes, and S.E.X. is still way overplayed, but Disco Inferno is way more palatable than Russo (and good lord, think about the ground THAT covers!) the show definitely still has a lot of problems (too much Jarrett, lots of misogyny, guys popping in and out constantly) but the storylines feel a bit tighter and i'm just overall enjoying it more. still FAR from great, and maybe i've just gotten better at 'tuning out' the stuff i don't care about, but i wanted to give TNA the credit it's due.

FTFY.

BUT WHO'S SIDE IS SHE ON!!!! Hager gonna slap Pretty Rickys face off his face... Once Hangman get's the belt back I want him to main event dynamite against Jeff Jarrett as sort of a neo- Flair v Magnum TA Tony faking us out by making us thing he was introducing MJF was nice two hours that really flew by

I have to ask. Is someone backstage trying to sabotage Ricky Starks? "Make sure to make fun of a person's speech impediment" doesn't seem like very sage advice to give. I love AEW, and I will always watch and root for them. Having said that, between the misogyny and ableism lately, you would think it was AEW courting the Saudis, not Vince. Do better AEW.

He is very polite and listened to the ref.

Yep. Pretty darned good couple hours of that professional wrestling right there. i am off to work now so no time to list all the things I loved. The BEST thing? In my opinion it was when the camera pulled way back for Adam Cole's return before quickly pulling in for a close-up. You know I'm all about the ZOOM! (Bay bay).

I'm going to manifest this into the world. Adam Cole vs Jeff Jarrett.

BuT tHeY sHoUlD hAvE eXpLaInEd It On Tv (As if anyone but a DVDVR member cares or remembers that Parker was in the Trustbusters)

I see this whole sale going down exactly like the episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns sells the power plant to a German company.

Instead of wrestling journalists, we should only listen to journalist wrestlers. On second thought, that leaves us with Alvarez, Bruiser Brody, and Gregory Helms. So maybe not.

He's basically Daniel Planview, everyone should be leery of visiting Vince in his private bowling alley.

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BTW, the cynical side of me says that enough years have gone by since MBS had Jamal Khashoggi turned into a jigsaw puzzle that no one but us will give a shit that Vince sold the company to the Saudis. I understand with something like LIV being a flop that you could argue against that, but as casual golf fan, LIV seemed poorly organized and run. You can't say the same about WWE. They won't have any more trouble than they would have had securing a new TV rights deal. I wish I could say otherwise, but unless the Saudi government butchers someone else in the next week, this won't matter. Hell, look at people on this board who joked about calling those Saudi shows Blood Money and still fucking watch WWE anyway. It's all a joke and meaningless words on a screen. I think the biggest concern comes from the very real prospect that this is a way for Vince to solidify his power and ensure that no one can boot him from creative or running WWE until he's dead. He got the deal Dixie was looking for where she wouldn't sell to so and so because they wouldn't keep her in charge. I feel bad for the workers, fans, writers, and people on the production crew who got to enjoy what felt like months of stability for the first time in years. I don't feel bad for anyone else who went back to WWE thinking Vince would stay gone. I just don't see how people could be that naive to think he wouldn't worm his way back at some point. The other sad part to this is something plenty of us have talked about for a long while and that's how you could very well have a 3rd national touring company based on the amount of talent not locked down to WWE or AEW and they'd be a decent enough draw, but the perfect storm that willed AEW into existence probably won't happen again for a long, long, long time. You see people, not on here but elsewhere, talk about how Hunter with $100 million could start his own company. You need that $100 million just to get it off the ground. You'd need another 1/2 a billion to prove to a network that you're viable and aren't going anywhere, not to mention you'd need that in backup money to keep the lights on until you can run a profit. But the one thing that the recent shows in Seattle and Portland reminded me of is that those areas are as hot as a wrestling town as Chicago. Whenever WWE wouild run out there those crowds would be lit. You could have WWE based out of Stamford, while AEW's run out of Jacksonville you could argue that their home base is in Chicago, and a third company could claim the Pacific Northwest as their home. Three different companies, each offering their own unique take on wrestling, touring around the company, broadcasting on separate nights. It would be fucking rad. I just don't see that ever happening, especially now.

Man, that was a dark ass episode of Barney. For real.

FUCKING AWESOME!

to each his own but he's the complete opposite of seemingly everything I look for in wrestling these days

people were just getting a good tan in the weather that was hitting Los Angeles this week

Saw a tweet where someone was hoping he'd climb the ladder and stop on every single rung to do his taunt.

To one Disco Inferno.

Never let people talk you out of expressing yourself.

Nobody does both better than Konosuke Takeshita.

I don't think a sale to the Saudis would be about the money and if I was reading tea leaves it's not that hard. 1. Vince doesn't like being retired and he wants to die in Gorilla position. 2. He knows he can't come back to a publicly traded company because of all the SEC noise, or if he does come back, it's trouble. 3. Tell the company he won't approve a sale or media rights unless he comes back. 4. He forces his way back in to approve a sale to the Saudis to take the company private. Fuck the stockholders and fuck the SEC. 5. He's already established relationships with the Saudi government, they will leave him to run the company, ala Dana White. The other thing to all this: after all these years of people threatening to not watch, the #cancelWWEnetwork stuff and everything else, nothing has changed. In fact, the people I see on social media saying things are so much better since HHH took over are the same people that were saying the shows were great before Vince stepped down. The ratings haven't really changed before or after, and they won't change if the Saudi government buys the company and Vince takes back creative. Which we all know is going to happen.

He could audition for some AEW TV time.

I thought we jumped because No One's arrow keys work anymore.

I can't resist. This is a photo of Power Plant-era Big Dave. THE HAIR!!!

Vince is at the level of wealth where money is not a thing you accumulate for security or to acquire stuff with. Money is now a high score like you're playing a game of Space Invaders. The more money he sells WWE for = the more successful he has been, and you can measure that success against other people who have cashed out. IMO, of course.

That's part of why Elevation is so great. Generally the name vs name matches are all sub-ten minutes too.

Lots of irons in the fire so I haven't been able to finish the main event of tonight's Dark yet, but some great webshows with an awesome crowd and fun announcing. Even the enhancement matches have been pretty good and Page/Hardy/Kassidy has been some great stuff. Zay saying "I hate you" when Page put the mic near him legit cracked me up.

"Somebody tell me what the hell is going on right now." - Booker T on NXT tonight. HE KNEW.

Yeah, I am holding off on this. It is a mult-billion international transaction. Involving a controversial foreign country’s wealth fund. I really don’t think wrestling reporters are plugged in enough beyond hearing something from a wrestler who hears it from somebody. Maybe I am completely wrong but there is a huge difference in the quality of reporting from wrestling newz sites and major financial publications or media trade press. Another factor here, and this is something I am going to need to research - I have no idea what kind of approvals (if any) that a foreign sovereign wealth fund needs to take a publicly traded company private. A lot of countries have these types of national sovereign wealth funds. Fun fact: The biggest in the world is Norway’s (unless China’s took the lead since they are close in size.) The Saudis invest a lot of money in the US stock market but not to some insane degree. The Saudi wealth fund buying any well known publicly traded company and taking it private is a huge fucking story so that is why I am hesitant to believe any wrestling reporting.

I've watched wrestling since 5 and WWF was my first promotion, taking the good with the bad it's probably still my favourite promotion ever. I want to support the wrestlers too. However I don't think I can with Vince McMahon's official return and all that he's done. The morale must have dropped a ton after the progress Triple H had made in six months especially making the secondary titles mean something again. Those released by Vince and brought back by Papa H have to be particularly down. You know it will have stuck in Vince's craw the positive WOM WWE was getting away from that senior old man's shit booking, the wrestlers Vince fired rejoining WWE. Shit news to wake up to. Fuck Vince McMahon.