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McMahon Genome Federation

Yes.

I reealllly hope that's a drawing of a ratings chart.

More Vince news in the WSJ. Anyone who said the WSJ would stop reporting on this was dead wrong. One of the best investigative reporters in the world is on this beat. https://www.wsj.com/articles/wwes-vince-mcmahon-faces-fresh-demands-from-women-alleging-sexual-abuse-11670945682 In sum: 1) A new allegation has emerged. A California spa manager says Vince sexually assaulted her about a decade ago. Her husband apparently went to the WWE show in town that night with a bat to beat up Vince but wasn't able to get to him. 2) Rita Chatterton is seeking damages. It doesn't read like a legal claim, but more like her lawyer wrote to Vince's lawyer demanding money. 3) Greg "The Hammer" Valentine surfaced in the article. He says Rita told him about the incidents in the 80s but he did not believe her because she was not attractive enough for Vince. 4) Vince has told people he wants to make a comeback and that he was given bad advice when he stepped down. He thinks the whole incident would have blown over. (It wouldn't.)

Settle Down Ratings Chartcito.

Hopefully he can alleviate some of the timing issues. As for a brand split the only one is I hope ROH/AEW is a hard and fast split with minimal and rare brand jumping

I'm not a fan of a brand split at this point, but I'd absolutely keep watching the product and would in no way leave due to one. That's how much I enjoy the company.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIxNjuz2adc&ab_channel=RoyaltyKultOfficial Gail Kim in a music video

You mean you don’t want to see Rampage have “Brand Supremacy” over Dynamite?! You wouldn’t like it if the shows were color coded? While I applaud the discussion this idea has created I am with the people that would hate this.

This conversation is amazing. RIP coach.

I was wondering because I didn't recognize the wide receiver, but it was 1987 and the Dallas Cowboys were a team of anonymous chaodes. I know Danny White; Randy White and one other guy crossed the line but I don't think Neil Olekiwitz or Dexter Manley crossed the picket line. But that was while ago and a year before Jerry Jones bought us and restored us to GLORY! This was the year my mom special ordered a Cowboy varsity jacket with white leather sleeves which was the greatest Christmas gift and the greatest thing I ever wore ever.

Chaos Project + Cutler is a team I never knew I needed, but want again as well. Also Daddy Magic is still commentary gold, give that man a lifetime job.

Since I missed watching the whole show before the Rampage thread closed, I’ll add my thoughts here. Mox-Soup was another great match and I’m so looking forward to when Takeshita finally gets that big win. Mox blading from a big boot was pretty funny though. Bunny-Shida was a fun match, Allie is a really great character in ring and a pretty good wrestler so she added a lot of entertainment to what was a foregone conclusion. Meteora from ring apron to floor was a great spot, and that might have been the best I’ve seen Shida’s finisher look. Tyga and Big Bill squash was a very good squash, probably something that should’ve been on YouTube but gave the crowd a break before the main. Big Bill was really good reacting and hyping from the ring apron, and they have some promising starts to some fun double-teams. Main was probably the least of the recent amazing OC run. The opening comedy section was fun, and Trent chopping the ring post sounded like it was solid contact. The middle section got a little janky at times, didn’t always flow smoothly. Ford going to get BBB made a lot of sense and I’m down for a Best Friends-Butcher and Blade match. The little story at the end with T7 blocking the first DDT attempt was a good transition to the finish section of a match whose outcome was never in doubt.

I would, absolutely, stop watching if AEW split into WWE-esque "brands." Possibly, I would go back to only watching live shows (in Osaka), Secret Santo matches (matches I am given and matches I'm considering giving to others), and WK and select G1 shows on streaming services. Which is where I think I was before AEW started up. Maybe I wasn't doing Secret Santo then? But I still would have been watching semi-random weird matches on YouTube that were recommended by friends or that showed up in my feed. Which is pretty similar to Secret Santo, minus the mandatory write-ups. That would free up a lot of time every week, so once I got over the shattering disappointment over AEW turning into WWE I think I'd be able to spin it as being for the best. Edit: I will also stop watching if they do an AEW vs ROH PPV where wrestlers on either "brand" put aside their differences, don color-coordinated t-shirts, and battle to determine "brand supremacy."

I'm still mad they gave up on the central conceit of Shotgun Saturday Night and had it from regular arenas after like three months. To me, that was the penultimate time that a WWE B/C show (not counting developmental) was really interesting (the final time was Attitude-era Heat, of course).

This showed up in my twitter feed and I know @DEANwill appreciate it

I'm honestly thinking it's Mandy getting called back up to Raw/SDL (guessing the latter, especially since Banks appears to be gone). Also notable that I believe, Roxanne is the only wrestler to ever start the year as a ROH champion and end it as a WWE champion.

Seriously though, Vince is one of these psychotic workaholics that probably doesn't have any identity/personality/interests outside of his job. While you work that's the recipe for being super successful. Once that work is taken away though... It appears he's currently at the 'bargaining' phase of processing the loss of his job and realizing he's never going to work again.

Sasha shows up, goads Jade into some kind of match, and cheats to win and ends the streak and maybe even takes the Baddies with her. Simple and effective. And Jade chasing Sasha means Jade now gets to work against an all-time great but having to do so by coming from underneath, which means she will hopefully grow and improve as a worker. She’s fine now as the overwhelming athlete force of nature but that has a limited shelf life. At some point, Jade is going to have to be in a competitive match and might as well have her in there with someone who is a great heel with a huge level of star power.

As a massive Hayter Lover (shirt idea?) I can definitely get behind this in theory, but in practice: this might be a waste of money and Sasha. I see the story you want to tell (and its a good one) but FAs on her level don't come around often enough IMO to warrant such a bold experiment/deviation from the norm. And let me attempt to say this in a way that isn't incendiary toward any of the performers or management: Personnel-wise, it seems to me like if this kind of angle isn't handled very, very carefully, it could easily end up turning into an express train to 'Doesn't work for me, brother' with a layover at Mindy's Bakery

Please no. The absolute last thing AEW needs to be doing is another nWo style "WWE v Home Grown" invasion/stable war. It worked for a short time in WCW because the kayfabe line was blurred. Today you risk damaging people on both sides - The new signings risk getting "go away" heat because people are watching AEW specifically because it's not WWE. The Home Growns risk being seen as 'less than' or legitimately under pushed which was the problem in WWE in the first place. If Mercedes turns up in AEW she should absolutely get a big match to kick things off but to build a story around all the ex WWE signings would be a huge mistake IMO. Personally I'd have her come in and say that she only signed if she got a Women's Title match to start because she's that special. Build to her vs Hayter. Hayter squashes her in 3 minutes. Now the story is that, as good as you think you are Mercedes, you're at the back of a long & talented line of women. If you want to prove that you're as good as you've been saying then get to work at climb the ladder.

Hey, they're giving everyone the Slim J/VSK vs Eddie Kingston/Ortiz match tonight.

See, I dunno, I think this isn't really a great sign...

We would legit be to the point where you can do a Foreign Army (Saraya, Sasha/Mercedes, Toni, Ruby) vs. the Native Army which would include Britt, Hayter, and Jade for the first women's Blood and Guts. Problem is Tay and now Athena have already flipped to the heel side. Also, I am not sure where Rosa fits into all this.

DE-LARDILIZATION?

Finally watching Rampage but the thread is closed. The Mox/Takeshta match is really good. But man someone needs to put Mox’s blade away. Less is more with bleeding. The blood did not anything to the match. They are building up to a huge grudge match with Hangman and save the blood for that. Bleeding in a Rampage match against a young bull is a waste of wrestling’s best visual aide. The absolute last thing AEW needs is anything else with a title. Is Shida’s title adding anything to AEW? Just, like, leave it at home and set this match up and get to the feud with Hayter. Less is more with titles, too. Clayton Bloodstone is one of the best jobber names in years. Big Bill looks incredible. Lee Moriarity’s hot shut taunts are good but he has to pace them better. Like 50 percent less. But I like the effort. The OC match is so so so weird and good. I love the British comedy match stuff at the start. Bryce does a great job as the straight man. Then Butcher and Blade come out and we have a big brawl and what the hell is any of that? I love how Trent counters OC’s kick with a feint. Like outsmarting the fox. The thing I really like about this match compared to other OC matches is he wrestled more like a pure undersized babyface with JR of all people noting his courage against the bigger challenger with his British tricks. OC getting the out-of-nowhere win was a great character moment. Not the best OC match but he managed to get a slight “This Is Awesome” chant in a match against some random NXT UK dude no one remembers who came in as a flunkie for Kip Sabian of all people. OC really is a master of the craft and as good as it gets. Man, are they getting to a Dustin versus OC match at some point???? Damn, man, we need that as a world.

Roxanne ends Mandy's reign at 413 days. Third longest in NXT history.

I thought "ocho" was amusing and that's about it.

Well played!

You could argue that Samoa Joe never recovered from Kurt Angle beating him clean in their first TNA match - his mystique was gone after that

Have him put Hook over.

Take away all the dumb shit we've all listed about it for a moment - the internal idea at the time was for WWE to 'be its own competition' because the other two major promotions were gone. So even on the basis of the original logic, it's an antiquated idea. I cannot imagine that a single soul here could get into 'MY GOD, THAT'S RAMPAGE SUPERSTAR CHRIS JERICHO! WHAT'S HE DOING HERE ON DYNAMITE?' from the same company that's already openly featured talent from NJPW, Impact, NWA, etc. and brought us Forbidden Door. Some great conversations here, and I had a super fun couple hours last night drafting my rosters... but, no. Hard no.

That’s the problem with the heat of the moment; the spa’s manager’s husband needed to stop and take a breath so he could figure out a Knuckleball Schwartz costume to sneak in the bat.

Yeah, that and all the Jeff Hardy stuff probably taught them a thing or two. I can't say that I'm shocked that this happened, but it's good if he was willing to go to rehab. We've had cases where people rather get released than go to rehab.

Since it was 1987, one would assume the Redskins were up three touchdowns and I had turned it to YO! Mtv Raps! or something, because I don't remember that.

Yes, considering that they did a face vs. face match between two women (Ruby Soho and Statlander) and the fans were solidly to say the least behind the person who was homegrown. That and they leaned in that direction in the build for Britt vs. Saraya.

First two matches were a little longer than usual and both pretty good. Robbie Rocket looks like a good new addition. Loved how much spotlight was put on Kandi Krush with the big storyline, the match, and the promo. Hilarious how McClane kept insisting that Kandi only *thinks* that Chainsaw did it but she doesn't know. I liked Ice Cold/Foxy, both were doing and trying some unique things. The slingshot in to the ropes ruled. Penelope/Chella was good stuff from 2 of the best, great finish! Main event was awesome. Fittingly built up with an epic big fight feel. Miami Sweet Heat double topes is the best. Didn't expect the heel turn swerve finish but that was cool. Absolutely loved the Tonga Twins no selling the double mirror smash due to powerful heads. Miami Sweet Heat look good as champs, hope they have a nice reign considering the history of those titles

Not a huge fan of WWE still making drug puns, etc. about Riddle while he heads to real-life rehab, but that's just me.

Sorry for not replying sooner, having notification issues. Cheers for the pick, @Curt McGirt. For you, we have a Cactus Jack match in World Class Championship Wrestling so long before Mick Foley found fame in WCW, ECW and WWF. I've seen wrestlers most famous matches or a director's most popular movies which led me to go back and assess their previous. I'd never seen this match till looking for you, it was only added 4 months ago and I hope you like it!

Edit: board just isn't working with me here, sorry. Chon Kyu-deok, one of the two men who started South Korean wrestling. https://i.imgur.com/Eaagn0Q_d.webp I wrote a thread about him here: https://twitter.com/KinchStalker/status/1602060079335079936?t=Bm0FgZoxYcgp68n-3XaD7Q&s=19

It's EMI SAKURA! EMI! EMI! EMI! It's Danni Bee! She is the pride of Oklahoma- to the point that she gathers heat with it wrestling in Texas. The people in Austin must not know of Danni's secret Oklahomanism- as they are behind her! Emi applies the Dragon Sleeper! It's Daddy Magic! It's Cool Hand Ange! It's two dudes! And it's over. It's Glitch the Gamer! When not in WOW, she IS Vertvixen! She is against the amazingly OVER Willow Nightingale! Vertvixen lays it in. NICE SPINEBUSTER! Vertvixen isn't big enough to warrant a Doctor Bomb yet. Postmatch, Anna JAS and Tay Melo attack Willow! Ruby Soho makes the save! HEAT THAT BABY UP! It's Zack Clayton! And Zane Valero? I don't think I've seen him before. The Best Friends! Since they both had introductions, I guess this may last a few minutes. Zane Valero STAYS RAD! Zack Clayton looks good in this. Trent is also making him look like a million bucks. Trent Barretta is so fucking good. Clayton is great in this, pulling Taylor off the apron and busting him up outside! Zack Clayton walks away from Zane Valero while Valero was staying rad! Our MAIN EVENT! JOSH WOODS! AWESOME! BRANDON CUTLER! FUCK YEAH! SERP! AAAND LUTHER! And TONY NESE! AAAAND SMART MARK STERLING! STERLING GARNERS HEAT BY BUSTING ON OVERRATED TEXAS BARBECUE! CAROLINA BARBECUE, MOTHERFUCKERS! Josh Woods and Luther are MAGIC in the ring together. TRIPLE AIRPLANE SPINS! Josh Woods hits a fucking BEAUTIFUL Suplex. They OPT to beat the living dogshit out of SERP! BRANDON CUTLER IS ON FIRE! GREAT nearfall after Sterling accidentally sprays Nese in the face with the cold spray! Then they murder SERP and the funnest match of 2022 comes to a regretful end. MILLION BILLION STARS.

I remember Noble being one of the reasons Velocity was must watch TV

First ever 12 hour episode of BTS?

next week Between the Sheets will have the North-South Connection of Robert O'Connor and Beau James talking about 11 days in 1989 (which should get them back aligned after the week missed which led to doing November 1990 as today's episode)

Fuck off.