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Let's see if this works Based on various conversations - I finally figured I should upload this. http://youtu.be/I9jvNV9I9Rk Just a note before anyone bitches. I ripped this off a DVD that I made of random matches off of my copies of Dean's perm tapes. So it is basically 4th generation. But it is definitely good enough for government work.

Fantasy Booking Warning: Orton unifies the two titles this Sunday. Monday's Raw opens with Orton and the Authority in the ring claiming there is only one true champion, champion of champions, when unfamiliar music hits. AJ Styles walks down to the ring, grabs the microphone from Stephanie, and proclaims that are still two World Champions. He raises his TNA title triumphantly. The Authority and Orton stare at him in silence momentarily before breaking into a fit of laughter. Styles lowers his head in shame and walks to the back...never to be heard from again.

They all look like something a bird left on my windshield.

Dayamn.

We've all had that thought.

My first born child will be throwing with his left arm from the age of 4 months

Today I am youtube chaining Senegalese wrestling videos, thought you guys might enjoy some African Catch rasslin. That entrance blows anything Wrestlemania has done out of the water.

OK, this is where I get off. DVDVR won me over on Mark Henry and Chris Masters, but Ultimate Warrior pimping is a bridge too far.

"So there's a guy that spins around?" "Yes." "And he's called the Top?" "Yes." "And he dates a woman who used to be a figure skater?" "Yes." "And her name is the Golden Glider?" "Yes." "And there's another guy ..." "Please don't ask about the Rainbow Raider." "I was going to ask how you pronounce Killg%re." "Oh."

The only people who see Ryback and don't think "Goldberg" are kids and the internet crowd that overthinks it. I always wanted Ryback to scream crazy coke/roid promos, but he never did and his actual promos, outside the bully stuff, are just dreadful. It's really hard to buy into the guy. All the head shaking and snorting and stuff looks so phony. Some of that is the writing, most of it is the fact that Ryback is just some normal dude who works out too much.

Raven had the best theme music.

Goddamn there's some anger in this thing.

Still don't get it? People read your thread, but you cant have Michael Cera getting a Rimjob on the same list as Children of Men and claim thematic elements-! It's a foolish list that can't be tied together by any tone or style.

Is no one talking about this? http://youtu.be/6FgfOi_E_3U

Carrying the tie theme:

I don't know if I have anything constructive to say about Ryback's push, but I see people say Goldberg wasn't a good wrestler and was worthless after his streak died, and that is just wrong, damn it. First of all, Goldberg got really good at one point and was having good matches. Everyone points to the Havoc match against DDP, but he had good matches against Scott Steiner too, and he was a legitimately awesome big match worker on a consistent basis by the time he got to WWE. He got better pretty quickly. People always say things like "But, but, but the Lesnar match" when the crowd was the reason that it sucked and "But, but, but Regal made him look terrible in a random Nitro match" when that isn't the case at all and it was a legitimately awesome competitive six-minute match before Spear, Jackhammer, Splat. It's like people are desperate to paint Goldberg as sucky in the ring when he was absolutely not. He was green at one point, but he never flat out sucked. Second of all, Goldberg was rendered worthless by WCW's (mostly Russo and Nash's) stupid booking. He was still amazingly over, but he was made to look like an ass by the nWo numerous times (see: Fingerpoke of Doom, where how Goldberg is treated ended up as the very worst thing about that angle), ended up turning heel for some bizarre reason when the fans still wanted to see him destroy the nWo for good, and then ended up stuck in a feud with Totally Buff which he lost and was then taken off TV and pretty much killed dead at a time when the fans obviously wanted Goldberg/Booker T for the title and would have been open to Goldberg/Steiner for another round of matches, too. WCW tried to kill his heat about a billion times and then finally, when they couldn't do that, they simply took him off TV. He was absolutely not worthless inherently; he was just made so by every booker that he came across from the time that Nash started booking the shows.

This argument is dumb for a myriad of reasons, but the biggest one is simply the fact that Ryback wasn't even the guy's first gimmick or quasi-main event run. The fact he had his run as Skip Sheffield in the Nexus should kill idea of him being a main eventer dead since: 1) Him getting injured is a big part of what made the angle no longer work (hence he's not dependable, so Vince would never put the belt on him and give him a bigger workload after he couldn't handle the workload of being protected in a 8 man group) 2) He was in the ring with top stars constantly during that run (and hurt people in that run as well) so he really had no excuse for being as green as he was and still is. 3) If he had such great charisma he would have found himself in the #2 turncoat role of Nexus but nobody was ever really clamoring for him to get in that spot (that went to DB and then Otunga for God's sake). 4) HE WAS THE LEAST OVER WRESTLER ON NXT SEASON 1 BY MILES. He wasn't competing with the Cena's and Taker's of the world. He was on a show with 8 other complete unknowns on an even playing field and couldn't get a soul to notice him organically to save his life. So what makes you think he has the required it factor to be WWE champion? Even if he was over, it clearly wasn't anything he was doing right. His push against Punk was no different than the flavour of the week heels Cena and Hogan get fed during long title reigns or what Flair used to get for his NWA title reigns. He was never EVER gonna touch that belt, they just needed a guy to keep Punk busy. Saying "he was over, why not give him the belt" is like saying "hey, Earthquake was over after he squashed Hogan that one time, why not give him the belt?". Cause it makes no goddamn sense in the long run.

Girlfriend whines about getting married? No sells it and acts cool. Girlfriend whines about arguing with her sister? No sells it and acts cool. Girlfriend whines about her insecurities and not being able to relax in his home? No sells it and acts cool. Girlfriend puts sweat clothes in the nice clothes hamper? WHAT THE FUCK? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

As soon as I saw Children of Men occupying the same list as the Matrix sequels I said "fuck this thread." Outloud. My neighbors heard me. I hope they were watching Four Brothers.

Seems like the first thing Fandango's dance partner should be able to do is dance. Summer Rae can not. Fandangirl had the perfect balance of elegance and snobbiness. She was subtle, giving off the vibe that she wasn't really a bitch, just someone who happened to be with a bit of a dick. She was realistic. Summer Rae is too over-the-top, too mannered, too distracting. She's too obviously playing a character. I dont' want to come off all weird about Fandangirl the way some people do with AJ, so I'll just close by saying that I'm possibly in love with her, and if she was selling her shit on ebay I would probably buy it.

Maybe Col. Parker got Bunkhouse Buck to send his nephews The Young Bucks to poison the Briscoes' chickens in order to create a chicken shortage so the Colonel could increase the price of his chickens.

It's the Fargate.

Cena or Orton wins, and then HHH comes out, congratulates the winner, says they're retiring the two belts or whatever unified belt they're making, and then announces himself as new champion, revealing an undisclosed third belt.

Don't be ridiculous. That gumpy clown clearly couldn't deliver in a main event match, and the idea that he should have been put over and had the promotion focus around him is dipshittery

Oh... boy. That's a whole bunch of terrible.If I had to pick, it'd be 4th row center. I have a feeling that HHH & Steph's kids scribbled those on a restaurant placemat or something. I wouldn't use any of those.

Cross posted from the lucha folder Dont forget: Theres scheduled to be a Negro Casas vs Blue Panther match on the CMLL stream tonight.

I can't wait for Weidman to KO Silva again

Good for GSP. If he comes back the fight with whomever is champion will do major business. If he doesn't, good for him. What more do you have to prove? I'm glad Dana is getting boned on this one. I imagine GSP is going to be classier in his comments than Dana has been.

Warrior's good matches are a result of him being a guy that knows his limitations in the ring and is perfectly fine with playing "Follow the Leader" with whatever better talent he was in the ring with.

Whoever says that Warrior was just as responsible(if not more) for the in-ring quality of the handful of great matches he was in is full of shit.

I don't know lucha either, but in Japan Ebessan did loads of tribute gimmicks. Ebesstan Hansen was brilliant. WWE should absolutely use that idea, it would a great way of using someone like Zack Ryder. Goldust already did that. Did everyone forget when Hass did this? Pretty much, yeah.

Scott do you plan on expanding on your 'YES' and 'NO's? - NO But seriously, I'll try to later when I get a minute.

Really this is the worst argument I have ever seen. First if we are going to go back to NXT season 1 for fuck's sake and say that it disqualifies him from getting a run, we may as well throw Cena in the hamper too since he didn't get over as the guy who wore different colored tights. Guys get repackaged all the time and it can really bring out the best in a guy to take on a new persona. But the heck with that right? That Mean Mark Callous will never amount to anything! 1) He broke his ankle... and so he can never be trusted again? Well, so long Cena (again) we can't trust you not to have your elbow explode. So long Rey Mysterio and Mark Henry we can't trust you not to be hurt again in six months. So long Daniel Bryan who hurt himself doing a top rope dropkick and so can't be trusted. 2) Who missed time due to Ryback injuring them again? Remind me. I remember guys not wanting to work him because he was too snug and all but I also don't remember a parade of injuries. 3) He was probably either #2 or #3 in the Nexus as far as being an actual threat was concerned. Otunga got more microphone time because he can talk a little more but David was never booked as a physical threat. One could argue that Gabriel was number 2 since he got to put the exclamation point on the Nexus beat downs with the 450 splash but Skip was clearly the Sgt at Arms in the Nexus scenario as shown in their Survivor Series match going over Mark Henry and someone else to even the sides up. Bryan was never the number 2 guy in the Nexus because he never made it past the first night of the faction before getting pulled from the group. I would argue the Nexus really lost their momentum when Skip went down. 4) Less over than Darren Young who had to go back to NXT for a second go around? Less over than Michael Tarver? Otunga? Slater (who turned out to be a better worker than Ryback but was miscast as a face at the time)? The problem with NXT season one is that only Wade really got over even a little bit. And basically Ryback's gimmick was that he was a big, dumb Nebraska guy which isn't a recipe for success. I'm not even arguing he should have been given the WWE belt! But your post is just so dumb and wrong-headed I had to comment. They could have certainly protected him more and gotten more out of him than a team with Axel (who does need to be in a tag team) from both an in ring and character prospective.

Trendmasters, I think. Also did Voltron and the Edgar Rice Burroughs stuff.

I hope with Bully getting evil background music for his promo, this signals the return of Jeff Hardy's internal monologue.

"Warrior sucked." I thought this place was a haven from such filth.

The most awaited return right after Larry Sanders.

Yeah - Youtube is FILLED with amazing Kaz Hayashi matches after the death of WCW I will say this about Raven - he was always willing to let the "lesser" guys look real good in his matches against them. Granted, he might also paralyze them but still

Since we are on the internet, I'm going to require you to be more specific about what of hers you want to buy on ebay. "Shit" is both not specific enough and potentially far, far, far, far too specific.

Summer's great, period. She's a terrific second for Fandango and can work. She's been the star of NXT the past few weeks.

I'm cutting this nonsense off now. You are capable of having an actual debate on most topics, the Ryback stuff is a good discussion, but this is so ridiculous. He was a more legitimate WWE title holder than anyone in the last 5 years except Cena. He is viewed by the company and by the fans as one of the very top guys in wrestling. No way a guy like that brings down a belt that Miz was holding a year before. The end. Go back to arguing with someone else. There is an issue though and it's that he's not John Cena. Everyone wants to find the 'next' John Cena. I'm not even a huge Cena guy because his promos are usually crap (obviously the writing team is at fault for this) but when he cuts a promo like he did this past Monday it shows how far above the rest of the roster he is... Punk cannot reach Cena's level in the ring or on the mic. Bryan is on Cena's level in the ring but nowhere close to him on the mic. That's the reason why nobody on the current roster will ever hold the "Being John Cena" championship. They don't deserve it.

She's not even fucking close to being as good as Summer Rae...

There was that newspaper article someone linked to. Wasn't she just some girl from a dance school or something. Amazing how much better than Summer Rae she was.

Or just give him a name with the initials "AJ" and ignore the ugly tattoo. Y'all are overthinking this.

Dynasty did it first.

All of this post is wrong 1) He was over. He was killing jobbers for almost a year, and people dug it. He confronted Punk backstage and people went nuts. Everything built well until they had to stick with Punk. 2) Yes. The roster is as interchangeable and boring as it has ever been. Nobody actually kicks ass, they all talk a lot and it's dull. A guy who does nothing like that and fucks people up would be a change of pace. 3) People walk him through matches, he gets better. Like Goldberg. 4) All of those dudes are interchangeable, none of them have any mystique. There's no point to the Wyatts, the Shield are just "guys who wrestle matches" now, Rhodeses will never be anything beyond what they are. Cena and Orton are opposite sides of the same coin, Bryan and Punk are opposite sides of another coin. They're all fucking dull however many good matches they have. Nobody is exciting, nobody is different, nobody just fucks people up. That's what Ryback could do and what he should have done. CM Punk was a failed experiment, so go the other way, see if people respond to Ryback.

How the fuck Paul Heyman isn't the Penguin is beyond me.

Iron Man 3 was fucking terrible.